TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down

Raymond S. Bowen rsbowen3 at cox.net
Wed Oct 25 21:02:47 EDT 2006


Actually, I agree with you; to a point. 

System Restore is rudimentary at best, but if you want to argue against it
at least point to the primary problem that SR causes. And that is virus and
spyware writers have figured out that if they can have their programs copied
into system restore then it's a real pain to remove their code from your
system. That's one of my primary beefs with it; the other is that it
requires way to much space on my drive(s) to be useful. I would much rather
ghost an image periodically to a remote server and be done with it. But, to
expect the average user to be capable and willing to do such a thing is
asinine. 

System restore isnt for everyone, but it does provide some benefit to end
users, and that has to be acknowledged. If you are priviliged enough to not
have to deal with anyone but superior IT folks as a baseline for a user,
then your opinion is valid.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:53 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down

Damn, you are all so passionate about system restore, ok, use it.

In my opinion it can cause more problems than it fixes and it's better to
address the problem so it does not happen again rather than do a
miscellanious roll back.

Admittedly it can be effective if rolled back to a very recent date.

Here's an example,

often when System Restore is used, if people cannot get the first attempt at
a restore working, then they try using an earlier one, then earlier.....etc

Well at least you wont lose any documents i suppose

Like half-restoring your system.

Do you get my meaning?

Justin




On 25/10/06, Lee Bunyard <leebunyard at comcast.net> wrote:
> Raymond S. Bowen wrote:
> > System Restore, while it has its merits, has limitations as well. To 
> > state that one should never use it is not good advice at all.
> >
> > Justin, please take into account we are here to assist users; not to 
> > try to undermine utilities that are available to them and *can* help
them at times.
> > Furthermore, do not ever forbid or downgrade a utility without 
> > providing a viable, usable alternative. From a customer stand point, 
> > to say I can't use something that has been provided to me free of 
> > charge (OK I paid for it with the OS) and not to have an alternative 
> > is akin to saying I'm SOL and good luck with it. You'll lose every time
with that kind of response, trust me.
> >
> > Raymond
> >
> I'm not anywhere near as technically qualified on IT stuff as many of 
> you on this forum but I can tell you that I have used System Restore 
> on quite a number of occasions where I had done something that  
> screwed up my pc and it has worked to resolve the problem and get me 
> back to normal again just about every time.  I've no doubt that there 
> are many situations where System Restore will not solve the problem 
> but for me anyway it's been a good starting point.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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