TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down

[Dave]

No, not at all.  System Restore can be like a dull axe. Use a better 
registry backup.
I'd  recommend System Restore only as a temporary backup, i.e., if
you are making a hardware change, installing new software, or for some 
reason need
to let down your guard(s) for a time (briefly turning off AV, e.g.) then 
make a new Restore Point
just before effecting the change.  If something goes awry, you have a 
good chance
of restoring things to as they were with minimal hassle.

A better option (though it too can be significant space hog for its 
backup files*) is ERUNT.
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

jmho
dave r


*You can control the size of the backup folder by deleting backups that are
unnecessarily redundant, keeping only one from each month or fortnight, 
or those
from prior to any significant system changes; or just keep a month's 
worth...
...heh, I just looked at mine for this month, and it's nearly a full Gig!.
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For complete details:
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/erunt.txt

Here is a brief description:


    Emergency Recovery Utility NT.
    Allows you to keep a complete backup of your registry and restore it
    when needed. The standard registry backup options that come with
    Windows back up most of the registry but not all of it. ERUNT
    however creates a complete backup set, including the Security hive
    and user related sections. ERUNT is easy to use and since it creates
    a full backup, there are no options or choices other than to select
    the location of the backup files. The backup set includes a small
    executable that will launch the registry restore if needed.


The Computer Whisperer wrote:
> OK, so first approach is System Restore with every problem then?
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> Justin
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> On 26/10/06, Raymond S. Bowen <rsbowen3 at cox.net> wrote:
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>> Actually, I agree with you; to a point.
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>> System Restore is rudimentary at best, but if you want to argue against it
>> at least point to the primary problem that SR causes. And that is virus and
>> spyware writers have figured out that if they can have their programs copied
>> into system restore then it's a real pain to remove their code from your
>> system. That's one of my primary beefs with it; the other is that it
>> requires way to much space on my drive(s) to be useful. I would much rather
>> ghost an image periodically to a remote server and be done with it. But, to
>> expect the average user to be capable and willing to do such a thing is
>> asinine.
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>> System restore isnt for everyone, but it does provide some benefit to end
>> users, and that has to be acknowledged. If you are priviliged enough to not
>> have to deal with anyone but superior IT folks as a baseline for a user,
>> then your opinion is valid.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
>> Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:53 PM
>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down
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>> Damn, you are all so passionate about system restore, ok, use it.
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>> In my opinion it can cause more problems than it fixes and it's better to
>> address the problem so it does not happen again rather than do a
>> miscellanious roll back.
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>> Admittedly it can be effective if rolled back to a very recent date.
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>> Here's an example,
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>> often when System Restore is used, if people cannot get the first attempt at
>> a restore working, then they try using an earlier one, then earlier.....etc
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>> Well at least you wont lose any documents i suppose
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>> Like half-restoring your system.
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>> Do you get my meaning?
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>> Justin
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>> On 25/10/06, Lee Bunyard <leebunyard at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Raymond S. Bowen wrote:
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>>>> System Restore, while it has its merits, has limitations as well. To
>>>> state that one should never use it is not good advice at all.
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>>>> Justin, please take into account we are here to assist users; not to
>>>> try to undermine utilities that are available to them and *can* help
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>> them at times.
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>>>> Furthermore, do not ever forbid or downgrade a utility without
>>>> providing a viable, usable alternative. From a customer stand point,
>>>> to say I can't use something that has been provided to me free of
>>>> charge (OK I paid for it with the OS) and not to have an alternative
>>>> is akin to saying I'm SOL and good luck with it. You'll lose every time
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>> with that kind of response, trust me.
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>>>> Raymond
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>>> I'm not anywhere near as technically qualified on IT stuff as many of
>>> you on this forum but I can tell you that I have used System Restore
>>> on quite a number of occasions where I had done something that
>>> screwed up my pc and it has worked to resolve the problem and get me
>>> back to normal again just about every time.  I've no doubt that there
>>> are many situations where System Restore will not solve the problem
>>> but for me anyway it's been a good starting point.
>>> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
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