TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down
Russell W. Coover
coover at fastmail.fm
Tue Oct 31 00:32:05 EST 2006
No, System Restore is never the first approach.
It is to only be used when all of the other "usual" solutions to a problem
have failed, and before reinstalling windows is found to be necessary. It
should be used rarely, but it should be available for use when necessary.
Russ Coover
-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 6:04 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down
OK, so first approach is System Restore with every problem then?
Justin
On 26/10/06, Raymond S. Bowen <rsbowen3 at cox.net> wrote:
> Actually, I agree with you; to a point.
>
> System Restore is rudimentary at best, but if you want to argue against it
> at least point to the primary problem that SR causes. And that is virus
and
> spyware writers have figured out that if they can have their programs
copied
> into system restore then it's a real pain to remove their code from your
> system. That's one of my primary beefs with it; the other is that it
> requires way to much space on my drive(s) to be useful. I would much
rather
> ghost an image periodically to a remote server and be done with it. But,
to
> expect the average user to be capable and willing to do such a thing is
> asinine.
>
> System restore isnt for everyone, but it does provide some benefit to end
> users, and that has to be acknowledged. If you are priviliged enough to
not
> have to deal with anyone but superior IT folks as a baseline for a user,
> then your opinion is valid.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:53 PM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: TSG--Computer won't shut down
>
> Damn, you are all so passionate about system restore, ok, use it.
>
> In my opinion it can cause more problems than it fixes and it's better to
> address the problem so it does not happen again rather than do a
> miscellanious roll back.
>
> Admittedly it can be effective if rolled back to a very recent date.
>
> Here's an example,
>
> often when System Restore is used, if people cannot get the first attempt
at
> a restore working, then they try using an earlier one, then
earlier.....etc
>
> Well at least you wont lose any documents i suppose
>
> Like half-restoring your system.
>
> Do you get my meaning?
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
> On 25/10/06, Lee Bunyard <leebunyard at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Raymond S. Bowen wrote:
> > > System Restore, while it has its merits, has limitations as well. To
> > > state that one should never use it is not good advice at all.
> > >
> > > Justin, please take into account we are here to assist users; not to
> > > try to undermine utilities that are available to them and *can* help
> them at times.
> > > Furthermore, do not ever forbid or downgrade a utility without
> > > providing a viable, usable alternative. From a customer stand point,
> > > to say I can't use something that has been provided to me free of
> > > charge (OK I paid for it with the OS) and not to have an alternative
> > > is akin to saying I'm SOL and good luck with it. You'll lose every
time
> with that kind of response, trust me.
> > >
> > > Raymond
> > >
> > I'm not anywhere near as technically qualified on IT stuff as many of
> > you on this forum but I can tell you that I have used System Restore
> > on quite a number of occasions where I had done something that
> > screwed up my pc and it has worked to resolve the problem and get me
> > back to normal again just about every time. I've no doubt that there
> > are many situations where System Restore will not solve the problem
> > but for me anyway it's been a good starting point.
> > Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
> >
>
>
> --
> http://www.whisperer.com.au
>
> The Computer Whisperer - Your Friendly In-Home Technical Support
Consultant
>
> Telephone: (03) 5979 1122
> Mobile 0406 467 701
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
--
http://www.whisperer.com.au
The Computer Whisperer - Your Friendly In-Home Technical Support Consultant
Telephone: (03) 5979 1122
Mobile 0406 467 701
_______________________________________________
Tech Support Guy Mailing List
http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
More information about the List
mailing list