TSGL: Backup Program Advice, Please

Engineman1 at aol.com Engineman1 at aol.com
Tue Oct 31 19:07:09 EST 2006


 
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In a message dated 10/31/2006 2:37:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
rbrunton at accesswave.ca writes:

You are  correct about primary partitions - one per drive. However, you can
create  multiple logical partitions. Each appears as a logical drive and
PowerQuest  Drive Image and the Ultimate Boot CD Drive Image programs allow
you to save  the image on any logical partition.

Ron

-----Original  Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com  [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of The Computer  Whisperer
Sent: October 31, 2006 5:05 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing  List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Backup Program Advice, Please

Thankyou for  elaborating Russ

You can't create 4 primary active partitions on one  HDD,

You can create up to 4 primary partitions (they would not be  readable
in windows, only the first i think)

But you cannot create 4  primary ACTIVE ones (the active partition has
boot attributes).

Only  1 partition can be primary and active

I'm not sure if you could  duplicate secondary(logical) partitions but
this is not what you are trying  to do anyway.

Hope this helps,

Justin

On 31/10/06,  Michael Sweeden <michaelsweeden at comcast.net> wrote:
> I use Norton  Ghost (formerly PowerQuest Drive Image) and I am able to
backup
>  multiple drive partitions to a single physical backup drive.
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com  [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of Russell W.  Coover
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:24 AM
> To: 'Tech  Support Guy Mailing List'
> Subject: TSGL: Backup Program Advice,  Please
>
> Justin,
>
> Justin,
>
> I was  the one asking the question, so I shall restate it, with a general
>  history of the problem.
>
> My friend uses external drives to back  up his four computers. He has been
> making the backups by Cloning, that  is, by making exact copies of the
> original hard drives on the external  hard drives.
>
> He has had problems in the past with hard drives  going bad, and his
> intention is to be able to replace them with  another in case they fail. He
> has made it a habit to carry the four  external drives with him, where ever
> he goes. However, two weeks ago  he spotted a large drive that he figured
was
> large enough to hold  the cloned backup of all four of the computers and
> decided that it  would be easier to carry one external hard drive that to
> carry  four.
>
> He realized that the backup software he used, Acronis  True Image would
only
> allow the cloning of only one hard drive on  the external drive's
partition,
> but figured that if he divided the  external drive into 4 partitions, he
> could clone all four hard drives,  one on each partition.
>
> Using Partition Magic, he did partition  the large hard drive into 4 parts.
> He then tried to clone the first  computer. Acronis, however, disappointed
> him, and wanted to get rid of  the four partitions and place only one
> partition on the hard drive.  This made the cloning of the four computers
on
> one external drive  impossible.
>
> I told him that the Acronis software can also be  used to make a full Image
> backup, though not a clone backup on the  drive using the four partitions.
> But he was not satisfied with that  and would like to find software that
will
> do a clone backup on a  single drive with multiple partitions, one for each
> of the four  computers.
>
> Russ Coover
>
>
>  Behalf Of  The Computer Whisperer
> Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 1:29 PM
>  To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Backup Program  Advice, Please
>
> Mike,
>
> So, this is multiple  bootable partitions on one physical hard-disk
> Mike? or is it one  bootable partition on one physical disk??
>
>  Regards,
>
> Justin
>
> On 29/10/06, Mike  <mikecrw at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Having recently used Acronis  True Image to recover an entire hard disk,
> I'm
> > perplexed  as to why your friend is using the Clone option as a normal
> >  backup.   The clone option is intended for replacing a hard drive  with a
> new
> > one.
> >
> > True Image can  make a full backup of the hard disk, including all hidden
> and
>  > system files without using the clone option.   And it can be  scheduled
to
> > "increment" the backup as frequently as you like,  so you don't have to
do
> a
> > full backup every  time.
> >
> > And it works.
> >
> > As I  mentioned, I had to replace a hard disk recently.   I had a  current
> > backup on an external drive.    I pulled out  the dead drive, plugged in
> the
> > new one.    Booted from the Acronis recovery CD and told it to recover
the
> >  data from the external drive.
> >
> > It completely  recovered all the data to the new drive.   I rebooted  and
it
> > was like my drive never died.    All was  well.
> >
> > What is it about the clone option that your  friend "likes"?
> >
> > I think he may just misunderstand  the purpose of the various options.
> >
> >
>  >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:  list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> >  Behalf Of Russell W. Coover
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006  6:24 PM
> > To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List'
> > Subject:  TSGL: Backup Program Advice, Please
> >
> > I have been  using Acronis' True Image software for several years and
have
> >  been very happy with it, but last evening I ran into a situation  that
True
> > Image cannot handle.
> >
>  >
> >
> > A friend has 4 computers. He has been backing  up using the True Image
> "Disk
> > Clone" option with 4  external drives, one for each computer. Deciding
that
> > he  didn't need 4 external drives, he went out and bought a 320 GB drive,
>  > inserted it into an external drive enclosure, and then used  Partition
> Magic
> > to place 4 separate Partitions, one for  each computer, on the new
external
> > drive. Then he attempted to  back up with Acronis.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Unfortunately, he found that the "Disk Clone" option wanted to  delete
all
> 4
> > partitions and replace them with a cloned  partition from only one of the
> > computers. If he then tried to  backup a second computer, the first
> computers
> > backup  would be erased. So, instead, he used the Acronis "Create Image"
> >  option and was able to successfully backup each computer.
> >
>  >
> >
> > But he prefers the Clone option and would like  to use it with only one
> > external hard drive, rather than 4. Is  there any software available that
> > would allow this. One of the  options of Partition Magic 8 is to "Copy" a
> > partition. Can  Partition Magic be used to do this?
> >
> >
>  >
> > (Because of the on going discussion as to when various TSGL  list emails
> > arrive in your inbox, I am sending this email at 3:23  PM Pacific
Daylight
> > time on 25 October 2006).
>  >
> >
> >
> > Russ Coover
> >
>  >
> >
> > I am trying to find myself. If you see me  before I do, please ask me to
> wait
> > until I  return.
> >
> >
> >
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