TSGL: TSGL mail delivery --- Re: NTREGOPT and ERUNT --- Re: Messages not going through ??

[Eric and Merna Bitter]

For days I have been reading all the replies to Chuck's original email below
which was received in my Westnet mailbox today (March 04) at 9:14 am.   When
I click on File - Properties in his email they confirm what is written
below, i.e. it was sent on Feb 26 at 2:09 am as indicated.

This six days and seven plus hours transmission time "beats" the delay that
I experienced before in the "Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??" thread
(five days and five plus hours).  I note also that the one I sent on Feb 28
in that thread has not yet arrived in my mailbox.   I have copied and pasted
that message at the bottom of Chuck's.

I am sending this email on March 04 at 1:45 pm.

Merna


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Neuenschwander" <annandchuck at yahoo.com>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: TSGL: NTREGOPT and ERUNT


  anyone here used  NTREGOPT  and  ERUNT  ???

  any observations or cautions or recommendations?

  -chuck

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email sent by me on Feb 28 at 11:27 am

Re: Messages not going through ??
(I have deleted all the extra footers with TSGL info that get tacked on each
time a message is sent, but I have left the rest of the emails as they
were.)

Merna

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Hi, John and all.

For the records, John's email below (Feb 23 at 4:00 am) from NSW, Australia,
was received here in north Queensland, Australia, this morning (Feb 28 at
9:36 am).  Wherever you are in NSW, John, I could drive there in less time
than it took your email to reach me.  So much for instant communication.

I can see from these emails that this is a List problem.  However, in your
case, John, it may be exacerbated by the fact that you are with Bigpond.  I
will not go into details here unless requested, but in the past I have noted
lengthy delays (of hours and even days) in the properties of various emails
involving Bigpond.  (I don't normally check an email's properties but did so
only because of the specific circumstances on those occasions which involved
our personal email at home and also the business email at the legal office
in which I was working at the times they occurred there).

Merna



----- Original Message -----
From: "John S" <john.shortland at bigpond.com>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??


Glen,
For your info, your message in reply to mine (below) took just 5 minutes
from the time of your sending to my receiving it here in east coast Oz.
As I write this at 18:00 UTC (06:00 AEDT - local) my posting on this
subject has not come back to me.

Best... ~ John S.

Glen Bigelow wrote:
> Tilman,
>
> John seems to cover the topic pretty well...I'll just add, yes definitely
> there has been for awhile and continues to be a serious issue with
> continuity of service.  Some days seem to be fairly normal, then I may not
> hear anything for a week.  Or, I will see threads come through where I see
> someone's response to an issue, but I never saw the original issue message
> posted.  Most bizarre and I have no idea what we can do about it.  Shame,
> because this has always been a valuable tool for me.
>
> Glen B.
> Sacramento, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of John S
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:35 AM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??
>
> Tilman Brandl wrote:
>
>> is there any known problem with the list server that I've missed
>> information about?
>>
>> Yesterday I've gathered my strength (and rest of free time) to answer
>> to one of the queries - "LSASS: necessary windows component or trojan
>> ??". Sofar nothing has come back to me, which isn't the first time.
>> Any known problems? Or just the recurring 'black hole' effect ?
>>
> Hi Tilman,
> Patience is a virtue with TSGL at the moment.  Of late I have noticed
> what you are experiencing and have been waiting to see if there is some
> sort of pattern occurring with our delayed and lost posts before writing
> something to Mike Cermack about what or perhaps where the problem could
> be.  It's evident from what I'm seeing that it is a TSG only mail
> handler problem.  Could be directly associated with or caused by the
> high volume of posts going through the TSG forums.
>
> I have my email client set to list/sort headers in the date:time order
> that they were received by their sender's ISP relative to GMT/UTC.  Your
> above message took (in round figures) 7hrs to come through TSGL to me.
> Over the past couple weeks I've seen TSGL messages come in typically 1
> to 3 full days after being sent - jonpan holds the current record of
> 4-days for one of his very recent posts to come through to me.  I have
> witnessed my own posts come back in anything from 7-minutes to 3-days
> after I sent them.  I have seen mine and other's posts being replied to
> by others again up to two days before seeing mine or another parties
> original post.
>
> Some original posts are simply not delivered to me at all.  Of those not
> seen to be delivered, they are not getting diverted to other Inbox
> subfolders via my mail rules.  I do not have any special mail handling
> i.e. anti-spam or anti-virus and the like intervention applied by my
> ISP.  I am not aware of any undue delays in mail to or from me within
> this country for other 'Lists' or for private mail - 'tis most always
> just minutes making the round trip via such Lists out of this country to
> the USA and back around the clock.  So that cuts out general ''Internet
> congestion'' as being a cause for these extreme delays to lost
> altogether mail.  At present I can't see any pattern emerging other than
> this is a TSGL-only issue.
>
> For me at least, it is completely unworkable to offer support in any
> sort of timely manner.  Unless a clear cut, well put together 'problem'
> is posted, that doesn't require the asking of a lot more info, (meaning
> a lot more delay is likely) I'm simply not bothering until this issue is
> resolved.
>
> Best... ~ John S.
>

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