TSGL: Messages not going through ??

[Russell W. Coover]

Thanks, Merna. As a very long time member of and contributor (I hope) to
this list, it is gratifying to read about your and others good feelings
toward the list and it's contributors. I know that since I became a member
of this list, my knowledge of software and hardware has grown tremendously,
and I think I have been able to give the group almost as much as I have
gotten or gained. 

Unfortunately, because of other obligations, I haven't been as active with
the list as I've been in the past, but I do try to read it everyday and
respond when I think I have something to contribute. 

Now if only we could get the messages to appear on the list within a short
time after they were sent, that would be great.  My guess as to the origin
of the problem? It is the "spam" you have mentioned, and the "moderators"
attempt to keep it from being sent to the list members. 

Russ Coover

I am trying to find myself. If you see me before I do, please ask me to wait
until I return.
-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Eric and Merna Bitter
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 4:00 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??


Hi, Olivia.

I subscribed to this List in November 2002 and have been a "lurker" for most
of the time.  I sincerely hope it doesn't fold or disappear because of the
current problem.

The professionals who willingly give their advice and expertise have taught
me a lot, and I have also learned from those who are not professionals and
ask basic (and perhaps even "stupid" questions).  You will note that I said
"from those of us who are not professionals" - I belong to that group.

I agree wholeheartedly with John's comments about "the format of this list
better than anything else" (I much prefer it to forums) and "above all, the
attitude of the members is the best. It's like having good friends round the
corner."   Thanks, John, for putting that feeling into words.

I don't know how long you have been a member, but the List has weathered
past glitches.  Pause for a quick trip down memory lane:

(a)    The two or three times we have been inundated with spam - this was
eventually sorted out.

(b)    The year we all knew when ? (name forgotten, but the incident can't
be!) would be "out of the office" until  (?date) and we were all told about
it again and again and again and again ......... because before he left he
had set up his email to reply to all messages with that advice and we were
caught in a seemingly inescapable loop as every TSGL email to him, including
his own, triggered the advice.  Many Listers were irritated, even angry;
some blocked his emails.  I found it irritating, but I, and others, also saw
the funny side of it.  After all, he hadn't done it purposely; and sometimes
you DO "have to laugh or you'll cry."  I think everyone was hoping he'd
return much sooner than he planned!

I think the "attitude of the vast majority of the members" is frustration at
what is happening, hope that it will be sorted out soon, and the willingness
to help sort it out if we are able.  At least, I certainly HOPE that's the
majority attitude.

Hang in there if you can.

Merna

(Sending at 10:00 am on Monday, 05 March 2007)



----- Original Message -----
From: "Olivia Francis" <thecrosseyedcow at gmail.com>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??


Hello John
You state
<Oh, guys, just shrug your shoulders and think, "I'll do what I can...">
With an attitude like that from you and evidently the vast majority of the
members it's no wonder the list is run so poorly.
Olivia


On 2/27/07, jonpan <jonpan at onlinehome.de> wrote:
>
> Oh, guys, just shrug your shoulders and think, "I'll do what I can..."
>
> I like the format of this list better than anything else and, above all,
> the
> attitude of the members is the best. It's like having good friends round
> the
> corner.
>
> Don't give up!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
> Od/G
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tilman Brandl" <arbit at gmx.at>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??
>
>
> John,
>
> it's 3 days since you sent this reply which I get to see now - that's
> simply
> too much.
>
> >I am not aware of any undue delays in mail to or from me within
> this country for other 'Lists' or for private mail <
>
> Same here. I'm with several mailing lists (mostly US based) and have heaps
> of email (mostly European) - only at VERY rare occassions do I encounter
> any
> delays. So TSGL is a very special case indeed.
>
> >For me at least, it is completely unworkable to offer support in any
> sort of timely manner<
>
> Again, the same here.
>
> Guess I'll watch things a little bit longer. But then - if things don't
> get
> improved, I'll probably leave although this IS or was till recently my
> favorite place re. TechHelp on the Web.
>
> Regards
> Tilman
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: John S
> An: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2007 18:35
> Betreff: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??
>
>
> Tilman Brandl wrote:
> > is there any known problem with the list server that I've missed
> > information about?
> >
> > Yesterday I've gathered my strength (and rest of free time) to answer
> > to one of the queries - "LSASS: necessary windows component or trojan
> > ??". Sofar nothing has come back to me, which isn't the first time.
> > Any known problems? Or just the recurring 'black hole' effect ?
> Hi Tilman,
> Patience is a virtue with TSGL at the moment.  Of late I have noticed
> what you are experiencing and have been waiting to see if there is some
> sort of pattern occurring with our delayed and lost posts before writing
> something to Mike Cermack about what or perhaps where the problem could
> be.  It's evident from what I'm seeing that it is a TSG only mail
> handler problem.  Could be directly associated with or caused by the
> high volume of posts going through the TSG forums.
>
> I have my email client set to list/sort headers in the date:time order
> that they were received by their sender's ISP relative to GMT/UTC.  Your
> above message took (in round figures) 7hrs to come through TSGL to me.
> Over the past couple weeks I've seen TSGL messages come in typically 1
> to 3 full days after being sent - jonpan holds the current record of
> 4-days for one of his very recent posts to come through to me.  I have
> witnessed my own posts come back in anything from 7-minutes to 3-days
> after I sent them.  I have seen mine and other's posts being replied to
> by others again up to two days before seeing mine or another parties
> original post.
>
> Some original posts are simply not delivered to me at all.  Of those not
> seen to be delivered, they are not getting diverted to other Inbox
> subfolders via my mail rules.  I do not have any special mail handling
> i.e. anti-spam or anti-virus and the like intervention applied by my
> ISP.  I am not aware of any undue delays in mail to or from me within
> this country for other 'Lists' or for private mail - 'tis most always
> just minutes making the round trip via such Lists out of this country to
> the USA and back around the clock.  So that cuts out general ''Internet
> congestion'' as being a cause for these extreme delays to lost
> altogether mail.  At present I can't see any pattern emerging other than
> this is a TSGL-only issue.
>
> For me at least, it is completely unworkable to offer support in any
> sort of timely manner.  Unless a clear cut, well put together 'problem'
> is posted, that doesn't require the asking of a lot more info, (meaning
> a lot more delay is likely) I'm simply not bothering until this issue is
> resolved.
>
> Best... ~ John S.
> _______________________________________________




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