TSGL: DING DONG THE WITCH IS GONE...YAHOO!!!

Beezersmom at aol.com Beezersmom at aol.com
Wed Mar 7 20:00:15 EST 2007


 
Please read this message and my email sent to Olivia and  returned to 
me..USER UNKNOWN
Toni
 
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In a message dated 3/7/2007 7:54:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Beezersmom  
writes:

 
Hi Olivia
I hope you don't mind me writing you off list and if you do,  I'm sorry.
Please just let me know and I won't do it  again.
I know that I did send you a response to your email through  the list, 
Subject: Messages not going through ??  Sun Mar 4  16:59:52 EST 2007 
My message was mostly in regard to this  email: On 2/27/07, jonpan  
<jonpan at onlinehome.de> wrote:
who also sent you  this message below.
As you can see as I originally told you in my on list email  to you that
John is really a nice man and he is and I hope you take to  "heart" this email
from him that his main concern is to keep this list afloat,  just like 
everyone that's
on this list.
We have some very nice and brillant people on this list and  one of them is
Raymond.  I don't quite understand your attack on him in  this email:  ATTN: 
RAYMOND.........Re: Antispyware Win2K  Sat Mar 3  18:05:39 EST 2007
and especially this one along with questioning his CISSP:  ATTN: 
RAYMOND.........Re: Antispyware Win2K  Mon Mar 5 23:23:20 EST  2007
Raymond has helped me on list and off list for about 2 years  now and he even 
did some work for me at his home.  He's been very  good to me, as has his 
wife, and as far as I know to everyone on this  list.  I'm also sure that he will 
respond to my email because it's very  possible that he is extremely busy 
with his "paying" job and his job does come  first and not the list.
Raymond & I have had our differences but that's life  just as some of the 
others on the list have had their differences but  everything seems to work 
itself out and life does go own.
Whatever your problem is with Raymond is none of our business  and it 
honestly should be kept off list.  I hope you understand where I'm  coming from.
All we want is our list to be like it use to be and run  smoothly.
Take care and have a nice evening
Toni
Sometimes we are so busy adding up our troubles 
that we  forget to count our blessings.



In a message dated 3/7/2007 7:15:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
jonpan at onlinehome.de writes:

Olivia,

Thank you for your comments.

You do realise  that I am trying to avoid the dissolution of the list?

My remarks  were addressed to the active members, some of whom are  
considering
withdrawing their participation.

I would  prefer  your support in my endeavours and hope the list can  be
rescued.

John
Od/G




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-----  Original Message ----- 
From: "Olivia Francis"  <thecrosseyedcow at gmail.com>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List"  <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:30  PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through ??


Hello  John
You state
<Oh, guys, just shrug your shoulders and think,  "I'll do what I can...">
With an attitude like that from you and  evidently the vast majority of the
members it's no wonder the list is run  so poorly.
Olivia


On 2/27/07, jonpan  <jonpan at onlinehome.de> wrote:
>
> Oh, guys, just shrug  your shoulders and think, "I'll do what I can..."
>
> I like the  format of this list better than anything else and, above all,
>  the
> attitude of the members is the best. It's like having good  friends round
> the
> corner.
>
> Don't give  up!
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>  Od/G
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tilman  Brandl" <arbit at gmx.at>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List"  <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:29  AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Messages not going through  ??
>
>
> John,
>
> it's 3 days since you sent  this reply which I get to see now - that's
> simply
> too  much.
>
> >I am not aware of any undue delays in mail to or  from me within
> this country for other 'Lists' or for private mail  <
>
> Same here. I'm with several mailing lists (mostly US  based) and have heaps
> of email (mostly European) - only at VERY rare  occassions do I encounter
> any
> delays. So TSGL is a very  special case indeed.
>
> >For me at least, it is completely  unworkable to offer support in any
> sort of timely  manner<
>
> Again, the same here.
>
> Guess I'll  watch things a little bit longer. But then - if things don't
>  get
> improved, I'll probably leave although this IS or was till  recently my
> favorite place re. TechHelp on the Web.
>
>  Regards
> Tilman
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>  Von: John S
> An: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Gesendet:  Donnerstag, 22. Februar 2007 18:35
> Betreff: Re: TSGL: Messages not  going through ??
>
>
> Tilman Brandl wrote:
> >  is there any known problem with the list server that I've missed
>  > information about?
> >
> > Yesterday I've gathered my  strength (and rest of free time) to answer
> > to one of the  queries - "LSASS: necessary windows component or trojan
> > ??".  Sofar nothing has come back to me, which isn't the first time.
> >  Any known problems? Or just the recurring 'black hole' effect ?
> Hi  Tilman,
> Patience is a virtue with TSGL at the moment.  Of late  I have noticed
> what you are experiencing and have been waiting to  see if there is some
> sort of pattern occurring with our delayed and  lost posts before writing
> something to Mike Cermack about what or  perhaps where the problem could
> be.  It's evident from what I'm  seeing that it is a TSG only mail
> handler problem.  Could be  directly associated with or caused by the
> high volume of posts going  through the TSG forums.
>
> I have my email client set to  list/sort headers in the date:time order
> that they were received by  their sender's ISP relative to GMT/UTC.  Your
> above message  took (in round figures) 7hrs to come through TSGL to me.
> Over the  past couple weeks I've seen TSGL messages come in typically 1
> to 3  full days after being sent - jonpan holds the current record of
>  4-days for one of his very recent posts to come through to me.  I  have
> witnessed my own posts come back in anything from 7-minutes to  3-days
> after I sent them.  I have seen mine and other's posts  being replied to
> by others again up to two days before seeing mine  or another parties
> original post.
>
> Some original  posts are simply not delivered to me at all.  Of those not
> seen  to be delivered, they are not getting diverted to other Inbox
>  subfolders via my mail rules.  I do not have any special mail  handling
> i.e. anti-spam or anti-virus and the like intervention  applied by my
> ISP.  I am not aware of any undue delays in mail  to or from me within
> this country for other 'Lists' or for private  mail - 'tis most always
> just minutes making the round trip via such  Lists out of this country to
> the USA and back around the  clock.  So that cuts out general ''Internet
> congestion'' as  being a cause for these extreme delays to lost
> altogether  mail.  At present I can't see any pattern emerging other than
>  this is a TSGL-only issue.
>
> For me at least, it is completely  unworkable to offer support in any
> sort of timely manner.   Unless a clear cut, well put together 'problem'
> is posted, that  doesn't require the asking of a lot more info, (meaning
> a lot more  delay is likely) I'm simply not bothering until this issue is
>  resolved.
>
> Best... ~ John S.
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