TSGL: AVG Free AV vs. Avast AV ???

H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com
Sun Nov 11 10:07:51 EST 2007


Lee,

Please post AVG's response if and when you get it.

H Davis

Lee Bunyard wrote:
> Thanks, H Davis.  I saw some news on this problem a couple of days ago.  
> I've decided for the time being that I'm going to run Avast Free AV with 
> the Web Shield module activated and accept the slower browser speeds 
> that result.  Especially since my daughter has temporarily moved back 
> home while she's finishing Grad School and she is very active on a 
> number of websites that I consider high risk anyway (MySpace, Facebook, 
> eHarmony, etc.).   I've also sent an email to the Tech Support staff at 
> AVG Free AV asking whether their product scans http traffic as it 
> downloads such as Avast does (I don't think that AVG does).  Thanks for 
> the info and comments.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
>
> H Davis wrote:
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>> Lee,
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>> I just saw this news item today. Not encouraging.
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20071110/tc_pcworld/139506
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>> H Davis
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>> Lee Bunyard wrote:
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>>> Yeah, I would definitely like to know more about the risk of loading 
>>> webpages without scanning the pages with an AV product.  The Avast AV 
>>> website indicates there is considerable risk so I turned back on the Web 
>>> Shield scanning module of the Avast Free AV product I downloaded, but it 
>>> sure does slow down the loading of webpages quite a bit.  It scans each 
>>> and every graphic module that each website page is coded for.  I hope 
>>> somebody can clarify this for us.  I'd also like to know if the AVG Free 
>>> product also scans webpages as they load--there are no settings for AVG 
>>> which indicate this, the Grisoft.Com website doesn't mention scanning of 
>>> webpages--I don't think that it does because the AVG Free AV product 
>>> does not slow down the loading of webpages at all.  Frankly, if I could 
>>> get the AVG Free AV product to scan the Thunderbird email on my new 
>>> desktop that's running the Vista OS, I'd stay with AVG.  If AVG Free AV 
>>> product does NOT scan websites as they load, then I would have to say 
>>> that the risk of downloading a virus or some other malware thru 
>>> downloading of webpages must be VERY tiny, because I've used AVG Free on 
>>> my desktops and laptop for the past 6-7 years, as have my son and 
>>> daughter on their desktops, and none of us have ever had any kind of 
>>> virus or trojan infestation.  And my son and daughter go out to lotsa 
>>> websites, like Facebook, MySpace, etc., which are always mentioned as 
>>> being high risk for infections. 
>>>
>>> Anyway, I hope someone can shed more light on this subject.
>>> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
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>>> H Davis wrote:
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>>>> Lee Bunyard wrote:
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>>>>> How important is it to have an AV product 
>>>>> running that scans incoming webpages as they load in your browser??  
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>>>> This area is murky to me too. There are malicious web sites out there. 
>>>> There are even cases of popular, legitimate web sites (Facebook and even 
>>>> Google, I think) being compromised for a while. These will download 
>>>> malicious software onto your computer by exploiting an unpatched 
>>>> deficiency in Windows. Usually you don't have to take any action other 
>>>> than to display the malicious page on your screen. The infection is 
>>>> completely undetectable to you if your anti-whatever program doesn't 
>>>> catch it.
>>>>
>>>> It's not clear to me if AV programs detect this type of infection or if 
>>>> Anti-Malware software does it. (Or maybe nothing detects it.)
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone else illuminate this area better?
>>>>
>>>> H Davis
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>>>>> Computerfee wrote:
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>>>>>> Hi there Lee,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can't help you with the plug-in for AVG but here are just some thoughts
>>>>>> about not needing e-mail virus scans at all - maybe this article is 
>>>>>> interesting for you as well -
>>>>>> http://www.thundercloud.net/infoave/answers/2007/no-email-scan-with-av.htm
>>>>>> I don't rely much on the thundercloud answers, but think some of their
>>>>>> articles are quite interesting as they show a different point of view and
>>>>>> obviously they are objective as they don't want to sell anything but give
>>>>>> away their stationery for free (they also have a really informative article
>>>>>> about IncrediMail by the way which I am passing around quite often when
>>>>>> people start strange problems with their computers -
>>>>>> http://thundercloud.net/infoave/answers/incredimail.htm)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> have a nice day
>>>>>> Heidi from Berlin, Germany
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Lee Bunyard" <leebunyard at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 12:06 AM
>>>>>> Subject: TSGL: AVG Free AV vs. Avast AV ???
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>>>>>>> I've been using the AVG Free anti-virus program for a number of years
>>>>>>> now on a number of different pc's and have been very happy with it.
>>>>>>> Have never had a virus infection on any of the pc's.  Lately I've been
>>>>>>> running the AVG Free AV product on a desktop and laptop.   I use the
>>>>>>> Mozilla Thunderbird email client and on both my desktop and laptop, the
>>>>>>> AVG 7.5 Free program provides a "Personal Email Scanner" module that
>>>>>>> scans the incoming and outgoing Thunderbird email.  It also scans email
>>>>>>> for the IncrediMail email client which my wife uses.  When scanning, AVP
>>>>>>> pops up a little box pops indicating that it is scanning email.  My
>>>>>>> desktop went south several weeks ago and I purchased a new HP desktop
>>>>>>> that runs Vista Premium Home edition OS.  Once I managed to get rid of
>>>>>>> the annoying Norton AV product popups that the new MS computers come
>>>>>>> preloaded with, I decided to download and use AVG Free AV on the new
>>>>>>> desktop.  After going thru the frustration of trying to find the free
>>>>>>> version of AVG on the www.grisoft.com website (they do everything they
>>>>>>> can to direct you into one of their paid products), I finally found the
>>>>>>> download site for the AVG Free version and downloaded the v7.5 product.
>>>>>>> It installed OK and works fine EXCEPT that, while the email scanner
>>>>>>> shows that it is functioning, it is definitely NOT scanning the
>>>>>>> Thunderbird email.  When I check the AVG settings and properties for the
>>>>>>> email scanner, it shows that the plugin it is using is for MS Outlook
>>>>>>> Extension.  In other words, there is no plugin showing for Personal
>>>>>>> Email Scanner, which apparently is needed to scan email other than MS
>>>>>>> Outlook.  The HELP files for AVG indicate that I need to checkmark the
>>>>>>> Personal Email Scanner in order to scan email other than Outlook but
>>>>>>> there is no Personal Email Scanner there.  I've downloaded and installed
>>>>>>> the AVG Free v7.5 product three times now trying to figure out what's
>>>>>>> wrong but I get the same thing each time.  I just went and checked the
>>>>>>> AVG Free product on my laptop and it is running the same v7.5 of AVG and
>>>>>>> it does show that the Personal Email Scanner is in place and working.
>>>>>>> The laptop is running XP Home OS.
>>>>>>> Anyone running AVG Free experience anything similar to this problem, or
>>>>>>> have any thoughts on why I can't get the Personal Email Scanner plugin
>>>>>>> to setup during installation???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Second issue.  Last nite, in frustration with the AVG Free installation,
>>>>>>> I went out and downloaded the Avast Free AV product.  It setup and
>>>>>>> installed OK and is running and apparently working OK, including
>>>>>>> scanning incoming and outgoing Thunderbird email but it appears to have
>>>>>>> DRAMATICALLY slowed down my new desktop pc.  Particularly on bringing up
>>>>>>> graphics in webpages using the Firefox browser (my preferred browser).
>>>>>>> Is this slowdown normal when running the Avast AV product??  If so, I
>>>>>>> probably won't continue to use it.  There are 7 scanning modules with
>>>>>>> Avast AV--Internet Mail, Network Shield, P2P Shield, Standard Shield,
>>>>>>> Web Shield, Instant Messaging and Outlook/Exchange.  I turned off the
>>>>>>> modules for Instant Messaging and Outlook/Exchange since we don't need
>>>>>>> those functions but the pc performance with Avast is still much slower
>>>>>>> than I ever experienced with AVG Free.  I'm not sure whether I can
>>>>>>> safely turn off any of the other modules since I'm not really sure what
>>>>>>> their function is.  Any thoughts from anyone who is using the Avast Free
>>>>>>> AV product??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any thoughts on these problems.
>>>>>>> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
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