TSGL: Accessin a Vista Home Premium machine from XP Pro SR2

Wed Apr 23 15:29:10 EDT 2008

Apparently whatever you included didn't make it as far as my inbox. But from
your post I'm assuming it wasn't the direct link. I think I need to attack
the problem from the standpoint of the "user" not being valid even when that
"user" was selected from a drop-down list. Even for Microsoft, that doesn't
seem logical so I think I'll start there the next time. Thanks for your
advice. I'll let you know when (if) I figure it out.

Alan 

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Subject: Re: TSGL: Accessin a Vista Home Premium machine from XP Pro SR2

I can't find the link... closest I could find was this, sorry

On 21/04/2008, Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> Yesterday I searched the Microsoft web site for this patch and could 
> not find any references to it  other than a reference to Vista SR1. 
> Since I have
> SR1 installed, it may be that I already have the patch, but just in 
> case, if you have a reference link readily available, please let me 
> know so I can see if that might solve my problem. I'm still really 
> confused about why Vista kept telling me that the new "user" I created 
> (BackupAdmin), which was on the dropdown list of possible selections 
> for "sharing", was not valid. I think my next attack on this problem, 
> after investigating your link, if any, will be to ask Microsoft why a 
> selectable "user" is not a valid user.
> Think
> that might be a valid question?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Alan Mitchell
>
>
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> On
>
> Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:19 AM
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>
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Accessin a Vista Home Premium machine from XP Pro 
> SR2
>
> did you install the official Microsoft File Sharing Compatibilty patch 
> for use between XP and Vista?
>
>
> On 19/04/2008, Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, I created an exact name and password on each system, but I 
> > still wasn't able to get access. Maybe I can convince him to "upgrade"
> > to XP :-)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "The Computer Whisperer" <justin at whisperer.com.au>
> > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> >
> > Sent: 4/19/08 4:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: TSGL: Accessin a Vista Home Premium machine from XP Pro
> > SR2
> >
> > you might want to make sure the account you are using on each pc has 
> > the same text name on both machines. ie user1 or admin1 or whatever 
> > on both machines.
> >
> > Vista is a bit odd with it's security like that.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 19/04/2008, Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes. That was one of the first things I checked, although I did 
> > > notice that Vista insisted on all upper case while the XP is mixed 
> > > case. But
> > since
> > > workgroup is supposedly case independent, and the Vista shows up 
> > > under
> > the
> > > workgroup name, that doesn't seem to be the problem here. But good
> > catch.
> > > Sometimes workgroup is a problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "H Davis" <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> > > Sent: 4/18/08 3:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: TSGL: Accessin a Vista Home Premium machine from XP 
> > > Pro
> > > SR2
> > >
> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > I'm definitely no expert here but my one experience with a mixed 
> > > XP, Vista network had the same problem because the default work 
> > > group names were different and I didn't notice that.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > H Davis
> > >
> > > Alan Mitchell wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > > A ministry I am helping support has a peer-to-peer network with 
> > > > 6
> > client
> > > > stations and a work group server which provides central storage 
> > > > and
> > > backup
> > > > of all of the workstations. All machines on the network have 
> > > > been
> > > running XP
> > > > Pro sr2 until last week. Due to a power supply taking out the
> > > motherboard of
> > > > an older system, I decided to upgrade the station to a dual 
> > > > processor,
> > > 3GB,
> > > > etc system running Vista Home Premium. Ever since I installed 
> > > > the
> > Vista
> > > > client station, I have not been able to access any of its files 
> > > > (other
> > > than
> > > > Public) from any of the XP machines. All of the XP machines can, 
> > > > of
> > > course,
> > > > still see each other, can still share files, can still function 
> > > > as one entity as they always have. Setting up the network 
> > > > originally with XP
> > > and
> > > > '98 machines was a snap compared to trying to insert a Vista 
> > > > Home
> > > Premium
> > > > client.
> > > >
> > > > In researching the issue, one recommendation I was given was to 
> > > > set up
> > a
> > > > common "user" on both the Vista and the workgroup server and use 
> > > > the
> > > same
> > > > password for each. On both of the systems I set up new users 
> > > > called BackupAdmin with the same password and gave each full 
> > > > administrative privileges. Then I went into the Vista system, 
> > > > logged on as the user
> > and
> > > set
> > > > up sharing of the appropriate folder structures to "Everyone" 
> > > > and gave co-ownership of the folders to the new user 
> > > > (BackupAdmin). It is
> > > interesting
> > > > that when I tried to select the BackupAdmin on the sharing list, 
> > > > I was
> > > told
> > > > it was invalid and did not exist on the Vista system even though 
> > > > it
> > WAS
> > > on
> > > > the drop-down list of "users". So I had to revert to "Everyone", 
> > > > which
> > I
> > > had
> > > > been advised would work.
> > > >
> > > > When I used Windows Explorer to view the Vista client from the 
> > > > server
> > it
> > > > does display the folders but continues to block my attempts to 
> > > > display
> > > the
> > > > files in the folders, hence my backup continues to fail with the
> > "unable
> > > to
> > > > access" message.
> > > >
> > > > My next attempt was to log onto the server with the user's id 
> > > > and
> > > password,
> > > > and was then able to display the contents of the files and 
> > > > folders on
> > > the
> > > > Vista client. While I could use that access for a while, what am 
> > > > I
> > going
> > > to
> > > > do when I install the second Vista client with a different user? 
> > > > I can
> > > only
> > > > run the backup application from one server user at a time, and 
> > > > the
> > > logistic
> > > > nightmare of trying to make sure the scheduling for one 
> > > > application
> > > running
> > > > as different users boggles my mind.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have experience with accessing a Vista Home Premium 
> > > > client
> > > from
> > > > multiple peer-to-peer clients running XP Pro? If so, have you 
> > > > got any recommendations I can try to help resolve this conundrum.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alan Mitchell
> > > >
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