TSGL: For H. Davis a test

Thu Jan 10 18:50:20 EST 2008

I tried to send the below quoted email, but OE thwarted the attempt by 
refusing to send the email via my 'loalhost' - my cable ISP.

I think that I'll give up, and hope that what I send will actually go. After 
all, I can read all the responses. LOL

ED

"H. Davis -

Following your suggestion, I altered the SMTP for Gmail on Outook Express6.
It is now going out under 'localhost' with the from being edlynn at gmail.com.

I am composing this reply in OE and sending it along as per above settings.
Yes, in plain text.

If I see this, you are a genius, if not, well, you know :) If you and the
list sees it, and I don't, we'll bring in the Austrian crowd, und Gott im 
Himmel.

ED"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "H Davis" <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Solve this one, if you can!

>
> edLynn wrote:
>> H. Davis -
>>
>> The reason that I am using Gmail for the list is because I was having
>> that
>> difficulty with two other addresses,
> Obviously not the "gmail problem".
>>  and Mike Cermack suggested a web based
>> address and using the web based interface. This worked all around. I
>> received the mail and so did the list,  but I could not use OE as a
>> sending
>> client and see ny  posts.
> This may be due to the "gmail problem" and further confused the issue by
> introducing another problem while you're trying to diagnose the original
> problem. I wrote only to make you aware that another problem may have
> been introduced into the mix which really wasn't a part of the original
> problem.
>
> One thing you might try is to set your outgoing server to something
> other than gmail and/or set your From address to something other than
> your gmail address if OE allows this. I.E. use one of your other
> accounts to send the mail but keep your reply-to address set to gmail.
>
> The downside of this is that gmail will no longer contain all the
> messages in a "conversation" because it didn't see the outgoing ones.
> But that may not be important to you......???
>>  I would have to read it in OE, close it, open
>> Gmail, and reply. Much too cumbersome.
>>
> Agreed.
>
> I don't see my replies to the list unless someone else replies to them,
> as you did here. But I'm aware of this so it doesn't bother me (as much)
> as it used to.
>
> H Davis
>> ED
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "H Davis" <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: Solve this one, if you can!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ron & Ed,
>>>
>>> Both of you are using gmail accounts. If you are reading your gmail
>>> account with a local client (I.E. using the POP protocol to read the
>>> gmail server with Outlook, Thunderbird, etc) you will not get your own
>>> mail.
>>>
>>> Gmail, in its wisdom, sees that the message is "From" you and thinks
>>> you've already seen it because you sent it so why could you possibly
>>> want another copy of it.
>>>
>>> This is only a problem is the From address is the same as your gmail
>>> address AND if you're accessing your gmail account using a local e-mail
>>> client. If you view your gmail account using your browser you should be
>>> able to see all your messages.
>>>
>>> This is a well known gmail "feature". Many folks have commented on it in
>>> the gmail forums with many, many attempted work arounds. None that
>>> involve only gmail work that I'm aware of, but there are some work
>>> arounds if you have other e-mail accounts.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> H Davis
>>>
>>> edLynn wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ron -
>>>>
>>>> I can;t figure it out. Like yours, my posts get posted (I think), but I
>>>> do
>>>> not get a copy.
>>>>
>>>> However, I can get a copy by originating the post in the Gmail
>>>> interface,
>>>> since I am using the gmail address for the list - instead of using my
>>>> preferred Outlook Express 6.
>>>>
>>>> ED
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Ron Grant" <nortnarg at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: TSGL: Solve this one, if you can!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for letting me know I made the list this time.  I did not get a
>>>>> copy of my own message as usual, even though I have that preference to
>>>>> yes in my list options.
>>>>> I had not been able to post in a long time.  What I did different was
>>>>> make sure it is going in plain text.  I thought that was already
>>>>> happening, but I guess not.  I am using Thunderbird email client.
>>>>> At least this would indicate to me that this is a plain text problem.
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> edLynn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron Grant -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My success story was premature. Thre other responses did not make it
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your test made it, like others on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Outlook Express, the option box for replying in like manner is
>>>>>> checked,
>>>>>> so if I received it in plain text, that's the way it should have gone
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ED
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Ron Grant" <nortnarg at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: TSGL: Solve this one, if you can! Don
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am having the same problem as EdLynn,   This is a test.  Sent
>>>>>>> plain
>>>>>>> text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>
>
> -- 
> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>