TSGL: encryption question

Craig crtrav at charter.net
Sun Mar 9 19:28:53 EDT 2008


Now I'm finding out more specifics. She cannot move the file from the 
external usb hdd. She can 'rarely' access the usb hdd, either before the 
reformat, nor now, after the reformat. She says she may have someone to 
'take it to', so I will let it drop unless/until I hear more from her.

However, now I'm curious for me, & the my latest searches likewise bring 
up weaknesses in EFS. You are absolutely right by mentioning FAT!


    Win2k Boot Disc Can Bypass Windows XP Passwords


http://tinyurl.com/5boer

....and this one:

·          Never copy encrypted files to a FAT volume (including floppy 
disk) or to an NTFS volume running Windows NT; otherwise the files will 
be decrypted.

http://tinyurl.com/3ce5d8

Craig


H Davis wrote:
> How about a FAT formatted (USB maybe) drive?
>
> H Davis
>
> Craig wrote:
>   
>> Hi Merna,
>>
>> I had told her to burn the folder to a CD, & told her to stay patient & 
>> hope that a new plan will turn up. And how right you are! I just found 
>> this at the MS Help & Support Center:
>>
>> Files retain their encrypted property until explicitly decrypted or 
>> moved to a non-NTFS volume. Similarly, renaming an encrypted file does 
>> not alter its encrypted status.
>>
>> ---Wow. non-NTFS. I'm guessing that somehow the folder properties could 
>> be accessed to turn off encryption while in Linux? Will have to wait a 
>> few more weeks until I set that up.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>>
>> Eric and Merna Bitter wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Assuming she needs the space on the external drive, can she save the
>>> protected ones that she would like to keep in a temporary folder on her hard
>>> drive or a flash drive or a CD/DVD?  That way she would still have them to
>>> try unlocking methods on in the future.  If it were something I really
>>> didn't want to lose, I'd try that.  In fact, I'd probably copy/paste/burn
>>> them to more than one place in case my trials corrupted them.
>>>
>>> There may be a method available now that we simply haven't found.  If not,
>>> there may be a method available tomorrow or next week or next month.
>>>
>>> Merna
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Craig" <crtrav at charter.net>
>>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:51 AM
>>> Subject: Re: TSGL: encryption question
>>>
>>>
>>> The forums seem to show the same question asked, but no direct answers.
>>> The kicker for me was the Microsoft site that warns, "NOTE: If you do
>>> not have access to a Recovery Agent's account with a valid recovery key,
>>> you cannot recover the data. There is no workaround in EFS." And since
>>> my niece reformatted her C: drive, that 40 digit key was lost. I'll
>>> report to her that the data is probably gone forever.
>>>
>>> Thank you to all who helped me with this problem. You furnished a lot of
>>> interesting reading. This List is such a fabulous resource!
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> I received this email from a family member,
>>>>
>>>> I have some protected files (mainly my pictures and home videos) on my
>>>> external hard drive, then I had to reformat my hard drive but I forgot
>>>> to unprotect these files on my external.  Now I can't open these files.
>>>> How can I unprotect them?  I know there has to be a way! it's on a usb,
>>>> it's a seagate. I just used the regular windows protection. for
>>>> instance, many of the files are .jpg, so I right click on the file, then
>>>> properties, then I click attributes: advanced, then encrypt contents to
>>>> secure data. sometimes I have access to the details button which shows
>>>> who has access to the file. my old computer name and certificate are
>>>> listed from before the reformat. now my certificate is a totally
>>>> different number (I checked). anyway, what can I do? all of emma's
>>>> beautiful pictures are frozen!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am I right by telling her that they are lost? It's XPSP2
>>>>
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