From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Wed Sep 3 02:57:36 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 08:57:36 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Maximum length of keybord/mouse cord In-Reply-To: <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> I have my TV connected to the PC mainly for the purpose to watch video. With this set up I use my PC's USB keyboard and mouse to set things up like selecting what video, double click on it to get it started so on. I'm thinking of expanding the usage of the TV so I also can play games, brows the web etc all directly in front of the TV. For doing that, I'm thinking of getting an new additional set of keyboard and mouse with much longer cables (maybe I need to use some sort of cable extender for that?). Is there I maximum length I can use for the cable between keyboard/mouse and the TV set? Planning to use USB only and I think I recall that USB should not be longer then 5 meters unless you add a USB hub with dedicated power cord. Would maybe PS/2 be a better option? Such as this one here? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=65416 Regards / Bo From michaelsweeden at comcast.net Wed Sep 3 06:43:03 2008 From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:43:03 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Maximum length of keybord/mouse cord In-Reply-To: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <024501c90db1$d87cf490$0100000a@michael> Bo: PS/2 can definitely go further. I use my TV as a computer also, and have found that the best solution for me was a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard set. Standard wireless seemed to do poorly even at a range of 10-12 feet, and Bluetooth has no problem with that. They are, however, pricy. Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Bo Maurin Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 2:58 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Maximum length of keybord/mouse cord I have my TV connected to the PC mainly for the purpose to watch video. With this set up I use my PC's USB keyboard and mouse to set things up like selecting what video, double click on it to get it started so on. I'm thinking of expanding the usage of the TV so I also can play games, brows the web etc all directly in front of the TV. For doing that, I'm thinking of getting an new additional set of keyboard and mouse with much longer cables (maybe I need to use some sort of cable extender for that?). Is there I maximum length I can use for the cable between keyboard/mouse and the TV set? Planning to use USB only and I think I recall that USB should not be longer then 5 meters unless you add a USB hub with dedicated power cord. Would maybe PS/2 be a better option? Such as this one here? http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=65416 Regards / Bo _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 20:42:32 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:42:32 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Maximum length of keybord/mouse cord In-Reply-To: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> Bo, How about a wireless keyboard and mouse? I've used this set and tested it over about 35' with no obstructions and it worked fine. H Davis Bo Maurin wrote: > I have my TV connected to the PC mainly for the purpose to watch video. > With this set up I use my PC's USB keyboard and mouse to set things up > like selecting what video, double click on it to get it started so on. > > I'm thinking of expanding the usage of the TV so I also can play games, > brows the web etc all directly in front of the TV. For doing that, I'm > thinking of getting an new additional set of keyboard and mouse with > much longer cables (maybe I need to use some sort of cable extender for > that?). Is there I maximum length I can use for the cable between > keyboard/mouse and the TV set? Planning to use USB only and I think I > recall that USB should not be longer then 5 meters unless you add a USB > hub with dedicated power cord. > > Would maybe PS/2 be a better option? Such as this one here? > http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=65416 > > Regards / Bo > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From wseehorn at earthlink.net Wed Sep 3 22:45:40 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:45:40 -0400 Subject: TSGL: back screen/shutdown? In-Reply-To: <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080903223607.00c35cf0@pop.earthlink.net> Diagnosing a problem for a friend, over the phone (yeah, right, fun!) Older computer (ca 1999) came with ME, upgraded to XP, SP1 & 2 No idea how much memory. Recently it's started dong two things (unclear to me whether they are related/sequential/simultaneous or completely random Issue # 1: While in use the computer will lock up - not just on, but actively being used (email, web surfing). Screen will go black. Won't respond to anything, have to shut it off at the power strip to get it to restart. Issue #2: (unable to get a clear description) sometimes a blue box will pop up and says something about hibernation. Told her to run online (Panda, etc.) anti virus scans & root kit detection forms & report back to me. Any ideas of what the problem might be? TIA Willard From wseehorn at earthlink.net Wed Sep 3 22:55:17 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:55:17 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> I've installed Chrome, but this isn't about the browser. This is happening frequently ZoneAlarm is giving me two separate warnings that Google Installer is: 1. trying to access the Internet and 2. trying to access the trusted zone EVEN WHEN chrome is not running. Perhaps I have a nasty, suspicious, dirty mind, but I'm not happy when a program isn't running, that I haven't started running, and have no reason to think is running, tries to phone home. I can see, on startup, that a program might check for updates. When it isn't running, well, why is it checking? I do have Picassa on the system & media detector was running. I have not noticed the warning from ZA prior to installing Chrome/ Ideas? Willard From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Thu Sep 4 00:11:08 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 06:11:08 +0200 Subject: TSGL: back screen/shutdown? In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080903223607.00c35cf0@pop.earthlink.net> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903223607.00c35cf0@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ED0170B@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> For a computer having being used for almost 10 years, the OS could be bloted with quite a lot of things. Apart from what you already suggested I would also: - Install and run CCleaner www.ccleaner.com/ - Make sure all MS patches are installed - Look at device manager to see if there are any driver conflicts If that does not solve it I would open the case and check if all cable are properly attached If that does not solve it, I would go through the pain of back up files and then a fresh install of XP (assuming he/she still have the installation disc) If that does not solve it, it is most likely a HW fault. Then maybe it is time to invest in a new one. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Willard Seehorn Sent: den 4 september 2008 04:46 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: back screen/shutdown? Diagnosing a problem for a friend, over the phone (yeah, right, fun!) Older computer (ca 1999) came with ME, upgraded to XP, SP1 & 2 No idea how much memory. Recently it's started dong two things (unclear to me whether they are related/sequential/simultaneous or completely random Issue # 1: While in use the computer will lock up - not just on, but actively being used (email, web surfing). Screen will go black. Won't respond to anything, have to shut it off at the power strip to get it to restart. Issue #2: (unable to get a clear description) sometimes a blue box will pop up and says something about hibernation. Told her to run online (Panda, etc.) anti virus scans & root kit detection forms & report back to me. Any ideas of what the problem might be? TIA Willard _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 4 01:15:52 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 22:15:52 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: The installation of Chrome also installs GoogleUpdate, which automatically runs every 10 minutes, whether Chrome is running or not. GoogleUpdate does not seem to have a separate Uninstall program, so to stop it, you must stop googleupdate from starting when you start the computer. There are lots of ways to do that (for example, using the Eusing Free Registry Cleaner), or you must uninstall Chrome, itself. That may not be a bad idea as I've seen several reports of Chrome having severe security holes. And according to one report I've seen, if you allow Chrome to "auto suggest" searches (this is default), Google can virtually record every key stroke while you are using the browser. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Willard Seehorn Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:55 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome I've installed Chrome, but this isn't about the browser. This is happening frequently ZoneAlarm is giving me two separate warnings that Google Installer is: 1. trying to access the Internet and 2. trying to access the trusted zone EVEN WHEN chrome is not running. Perhaps I have a nasty, suspicious, dirty mind, but I'm not happy when a program isn't running, that I haven't started running, and have no reason to think is running, tries to phone home. I can see, on startup, that a program might check for updates. When it isn't running, well, why is it checking? I do have Picassa on the system & media detector was running. I have not noticed the warning from ZA prior to installing Chrome/ Ideas? Willard _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From ian at iarp.ca Thu Sep 4 02:18:01 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:18:01 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Windows(i believe 2000pro and up): Start -> Run -> msconfig Start up tab Locate Google Update and uncheck the box on the left side. Ok and restart the computer. When it restarts, a dialog box will pop up letting you know you've changed some start-up processes, just click the check box and then ok. Another thing, when chrome is running, each tab is it's own separate process(if your getting these messages while its running to). On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Russell W. Coover wrote: > The installation of Chrome also installs GoogleUpdate, which automatically > runs every 10 minutes, whether Chrome is running or not. GoogleUpdate does > not seem to have a separate Uninstall program, so to stop it, you must stop > googleupdate from starting when you start the computer. There are lots of > ways to do that (for example, using the Eusing Free Registry Cleaner), or > you must uninstall Chrome, itself. That may not be a bad idea as I've seen > several reports of Chrome having severe security holes. And according to > one > report I've seen, if you allow Chrome to "auto suggest" searches (this is > default), Google can virtually record every key stroke while you are using > the browser. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Willard Seehorn > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:55 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome > > I've installed Chrome, but this isn't about the browser. > > This is happening frequently > > ZoneAlarm is giving me two separate warnings that Google Installer is: > > 1. trying to access the Internet > and > 2. trying to access the trusted zone > > EVEN WHEN chrome is not running. > > Perhaps I have a nasty, suspicious, dirty mind, but I'm not happy when a > program isn't running, that I haven't started running, and have no reason > to think is running, tries to phone home. > > I can see, on startup, that a program might check for updates. When it > isn't running, well, why is it checking? > > I do have Picassa on the system & media detector was running. I have not > noticed the warning from ZA prior to installing Chrome/ > > Ideas? > > Willard > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From iarp at cogeco.ca Thu Sep 4 02:18:19 2008 From: iarp at cogeco.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 02:18:19 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Windows(i believe 2000pro and up): Start -> Run -> msconfig Start up tab Locate Google Update and uncheck the box on the left side. Ok and restart the computer. When it restarts, a dialog box will pop up letting you know you've changed some start-up processes, just click the check box and then ok. Another thing, when chrome is running, each tab is it's own separate process(if your getting these messages while its running to). On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Russell W. Coover wrote: > The installation of Chrome also installs GoogleUpdate, which automatically > runs every 10 minutes, whether Chrome is running or not. GoogleUpdate does > not seem to have a separate Uninstall program, so to stop it, you must stop > googleupdate from starting when you start the computer. There are lots of > ways to do that (for example, using the Eusing Free Registry Cleaner), or > you must uninstall Chrome, itself. That may not be a bad idea as I've seen > several reports of Chrome having severe security holes. And according to > one > report I've seen, if you allow Chrome to "auto suggest" searches (this is > default), Google can virtually record every key stroke while you are using > the browser. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Willard Seehorn > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:55 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: TSGL: Google Chrome > > I've installed Chrome, but this isn't about the browser. > > This is happening frequently > > ZoneAlarm is giving me two separate warnings that Google Installer is: > > 1. trying to access the Internet > and > 2. trying to access the trusted zone > > EVEN WHEN chrome is not running. > > Perhaps I have a nasty, suspicious, dirty mind, but I'm not happy when a > program isn't running, that I haven't started running, and have no reason > to think is running, tries to phone home. > > I can see, on startup, that a program might check for updates. When it > isn't running, well, why is it checking? > > I do have Picassa on the system & media detector was running. I have not > noticed the warning from ZA prior to installing Chrome/ > > Ideas? > > Willard > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From wseehorn at earthlink.net Thu Sep 4 07:13:53 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:13:53 -0400 Subject: TSGL: msconfig was: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080904064206.00c05d88@pop.earthlink.net> Noticed something odd when I was following these instructions. There are three "programs" showing up in the start up tab which have no information in them: The Startup Item block is checked, but there is no name after the block The Command column is blank The location is HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run Is this something I should be concerned about or is it normal behavior? Will At 02:18 AM 9/4/2008, you wrote: >Windows(i believe 2000pro and up): >Start -> Run -> msconfig >Start up tab >Locate Google Update and uncheck the box on the left side. >Ok and restart the computer. >When it restarts, a dialog box will pop up letting you know you've changed >some start-up processes, just click the check box and then ok. From tbrandl2 at chello.at Thu Sep 4 08:22:44 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:22:44 +0200 Subject: TSGL: back screen/shutdown? References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903223607.00c35cf0@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <081701c90e88$f32b4490$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi, in adding to BO's suggestions: 1. I would also make a memory testrun - Microsoft has a good testing software out there. I have had such a problem lately, and was able to quickly solve it by replacing one of the memory modules... Alternatively, if there are more than 1 modules: Remove one and testrun, that replace by 2nd + testrun, etc. 2. Windows saves a minidump file after each bluescreen & error (or at least it should). You can find it in C:windows/minidump. Sometimes you'll find the name of a file/program responsible for the crash in the last line(s) of the most recent dump-file (ending with *.dmp) 3. Check the events! There sh/could be an error listed there, you'll be able to find more info depending on the error number. 4. Disable auto-reboot. This *might* help to at least get a bluescreen with more information re. the error that happened. http://www.tunexp.com/tips/maintain_your_computer/disabling_blue_screen_of_death_auto-reboot/ Btw - you might want to ask your friend whether he has changed anything recently, like installed something new, changed Bios-settings, etc. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willard Seehorn" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: TSGL: back screen/shutdown? > Diagnosing a problem for a friend, over the phone (yeah, right, fun!) > > Older computer (ca 1999) came with ME, upgraded to XP, SP1 & 2 > No idea how much memory. > > Recently it's started dong two things (unclear to me whether they are > related/sequential/simultaneous or completely random > > Issue # 1: While in use the computer will lock up - not just on, but > actively being used (email, web surfing). Screen will go black. Won't > respond to anything, have to shut it off at the power strip to get it to > restart. > > Issue #2: (unable to get a clear description) sometimes a blue box will > pop up and says something about hibernation. > > Told her to run online (Panda, etc.) anti virus scans & root kit detection > forms & report back to me. > > Any ideas of what the problem might be? > > TIA > > Willard > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From ian at iarp.ca Thu Sep 4 09:36:15 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:36:15 -0400 Subject: TSGL: msconfig was: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080904064206.00c05d88@pop.earthlink.net> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> <6.2.0.14.2.20080904064206.00c05d88@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Well if you want your machine to start-up much faster, you can disable all most everything on the list. But leave any anti-virus/firewall.....etc software running. On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Willard Seehorn wrote: > Noticed something odd when I was following these instructions. > > There are three "programs" showing up in the start up tab which have no > information in them: > > The Startup Item block is checked, but there is no name after the block > The Command column is blank > The location is HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > > Is this something I should be concerned about or is it normal behavior? > > Will > > At 02:18 AM 9/4/2008, you wrote: > >Windows(i believe 2000pro and up): > >Start -> Run -> msconfig > >Start up tab > >Locate Google Update and uncheck the box on the left side. > >Ok and restart the computer. > >When it restarts, a dialog box will pop up letting you know you've changed > >some start-up processes, just click the check box and then ok. > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From deepend at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 4 11:16:54 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:16:54 +1000 Subject: TSGL: msconfig was: Google Chrome In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080904064206.00c05d88@pop.earthlink.net> References: <122491.31557.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5E681C8D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <58109167A59245779B460FC0C72484FA@AcerLaptop> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5ECCBAAD@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> <48BF2EF8.1090307@gmail.com> <6.2.0.14.2.20080903224543.00c35a60@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080905010421.00c45180@mail.tpg.com.au> Will wrote: >Is this something I should be concerned about or is it normal behavior?>> Certainly not normal. Needs further investigation. There are 3 things you can and should do: 1. Open regedit and drill down through all the pluses until you get to the appropriate Run section. See what it shows and delete anything you don't like the look of. It might give you a lead to the missing info. 2. Run at least two full antispyware and antivirus checks. Anything that hides its details is highly suspicious, either malware or badly coded. Bad code means trouble. 3. Msconfig is very basic and there are many better startup tools. Download Autoruns (free) from www.sysinternals.com and see what that shows in relation to these and other items. You might also get Process Explorer and Process Monitor while you are there--2 more useful diagnostic tools from a very reputable source. Don Penlington From embitt at westnet.com.au Sat Sep 6 22:17:59 2008 From: embitt at westnet.com.au (Eric and Merna Bitter) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 12:17:59 +1000 Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards References: Message-ID: <06d901c9108f$fe532780$0401a8c0@number12> First of all -- yes, everybody, I am "replying" to an email from five years ago. Heidi, when I read the articles at the links below, I remembered that there had been a query at TSGL some time ago about selling photos (although I didn't realise how long ago until I searched my TSGL records). I did not remember that it had been in connection with e-cards. In any case, perhaps these articles and the readers' comments (separated from articles by advertisements) will be of interest: http://photo.blorge.com/2008/07/17/makes-thousands-off-your-flickr-images/ http://photo.blorge.com/2008/08/04/sell-your-photos-at-shutterstock/ Merna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frank" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: RE: TSGL: offering e-cards Hi Heidi, First asked first answered, I've done this before until I dropped my digital camera into the sea. I have a thousand more photos to be sent but had security problems with my email system. When I send or receive photos via my email account, it scans the picture files coming in and going out. Not forgetting that there are certain email policies we have imposed here and It's quite expensive running such operation. I've sent a lot of photos to a company named Naked Natives they are specialized in photo edition and publication, you name it calendar girls, posters, post cards, e-cards, magazines, power point shows and many more. I earned a lot of money from it, they buy my photos by grading them, starting from $2 up to $50 per picture file, it depends on what type of photos you send...any kind but they'll still buy it. No Kidding......yep. If you need more information you can email me at dfrank at mbe.com.pg and tell me more about yourself and your photos. Kind Regards Daniel Frank Milne Bay Papua New Guinea > -----Original Message----- > From: Heidi Schr?der [SMTP:HiHalloHeidi at lycos.de] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:08 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards > > Hi there everyone, > I am wondering how difficult or maybe even costly it is to offer people > sending e-cards via my site. I mean, I would like to offer my own photos > to be sent as e-cards and somehow hope there might be a way to make some > money through it... is it just a silly dream or does anyone of you know > anything to tell me about how to do it or where to find information about > how to do it. Could not think out a good phrase/words to find anything > with Google, all i got was sites offering to send e-cards. > TIA for any suggestions > Heidi ^ ^<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe or advertise, visit http://www.HelpOnThe.Net/list/ From Computerfee at t-online.de Sun Sep 7 01:59:27 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 07:59:27 +0200 Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards In-Reply-To: <06d901c9108f$fe532780$0401a8c0@number12> References: <06d901c9108f$fe532780$0401a8c0@number12> Message-ID: <803346F5CEFD45C29959DA17C5B44CA2@HeidisPC> Thanks a lot Merna for the information! I did not even remember I actually did ask that question once. Though of course do remember the idea I had which never came true. But now that my husband wants to buy a digital reflex camera and will then start on taking really great photos again when in a few years he will retire, it might really be very helpful for our budget then even, if we could do something with them! Moreover you know, it is always a little disappointing when you take lovely photos and in the end can't do anything with them and you will not even look at your own plant or landscape photos again too often. have a great Sunday Heidi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric and Merna Bitter" To: Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: offering e-cards First of all -- yes, everybody, I am "replying" to an email from five years ago. Heidi, when I read the articles at the links below, I remembered that there had been a query at TSGL some time ago about selling photos (although I didn't realise how long ago until I searched my TSGL records). I did not remember that it had been in connection with e-cards. In any case, perhaps these articles and the readers' comments (separated from articles by advertisements) will be of interest: http://photo.blorge.com/2008/07/17/makes-thousands-off-your-flickr-images/ http://photo.blorge.com/2008/08/04/sell-your-photos-at-shutterstock/ Merna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frank" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: RE: TSGL: offering e-cards Hi Heidi, First asked first answered, I've done this before until I dropped my digital camera into the sea. I have a thousand more photos to be sent but had security problems with my email system. When I send or receive photos via my email account, it scans the picture files coming in and going out. Not forgetting that there are certain email policies we have imposed here and It's quite expensive running such operation. I've sent a lot of photos to a company named Naked Natives they are specialized in photo edition and publication, you name it calendar girls, posters, post cards, e-cards, magazines, power point shows and many more. I earned a lot of money from it, they buy my photos by grading them, starting from $2 up to $50 per picture file, it depends on what type of photos you send...any kind but they'll still buy it. No Kidding......yep. If you need more information you can email me at dfrank at mbe.com.pg and tell me more about yourself and your photos. Kind Regards Daniel Frank Milne Bay Papua New Guinea > -----Original Message----- > From: Heidi Schr?der [SMTP:HiHalloHeidi at lycos.de] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:08 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards > > Hi there everyone, > I am wondering how difficult or maybe even costly it is to offer people > sending e-cards via my site. I mean, I would like to offer my own photos > to be sent as e-cards and somehow hope there might be a way to make some > money through it... is it just a silly dream or does anyone of you know > anything to tell me about how to do it or where to find information about > how to do it. Could not think out a good phrase/words to find anything > with Google, all i got was sites offering to send e-cards. > TIA for any suggestions > Heidi ^ ^<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe or advertise, visit http://www.HelpOnThe.Net/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From Beezersmom at aol.com Sun Sep 7 10:10:30 2008 From: Beezersmom at aol.com (Beezersmom at aol.com) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 10:10:30 EDT Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards Message-ID: Heidi There are 1,000's of sites that just sell their photos, numbered prints, etc. I've purchased prints from Marjolein Gulinski, you can Google her name and check out her sites. One word of advise is to block people from being able to copy your photos, it it's out there they will snag them if they aren't block and claim them as their own. I just checked out her site since I hadn't been there in a few years and she hasn't blocked people from copying most of her work and WOW has she expanded and is selling a lot more than just prints. This site might also give you some ideas on setting up your own site. Good luck Toni In a message dated 9/7/2008 2:00:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Computerfee at t-online.de writes: Thanks a lot Merna for the information! I did not even remember I actually did ask that question once. Though of course do remember the idea I had which never came true. But now that my husband wants to buy a digital reflex camera and will then start on taking really great photos again when in a few years he will retire, it might really be very helpful for our budget then even, if we could do something with them! Moreover you know, it is always a little disappointing when you take lovely photos and in the end can't do anything with them and you will not even look at your own plant or landscape photos again too often. have a great Sunday Heidi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric and Merna Bitter" To: Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 4:17 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: offering e-cards First of all -- yes, everybody, I am "replying" to an email from five years ago. Heidi, when I read the articles at the links below, I remembered that there had been a query at TSGL some time ago about selling photos (although I didn't realise how long ago until I searched my TSGL records). I did not remember that it had been in connection with e-cards. In any case, perhaps these articles and the readers' comments (separated from articles by advertisements) will be of interest: http://photo.blorge.com/2008/07/17/makes-thousands-off-your-flickr-images/ http://photo.blorge.com/2008/08/04/sell-your-photos-at-shutterstock/ Merna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Frank" To: Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: RE: TSGL: offering e-cards Hi Heidi, First asked first answered, I've done this before until I dropped my digital camera into the sea. I have a thousand more photos to be sent but had security problems with my email system. When I send or receive photos via my email account, it scans the picture files coming in and going out. Not forgetting that there are certain email policies we have imposed here and It's quite expensive running such operation. I've sent a lot of photos to a company named Naked Natives they are specialized in photo edition and publication, you name it calendar girls, posters, post cards, e-cards, magazines, power point shows and many more. I earned a lot of money from it, they buy my photos by grading them, starting from $2 up to $50 per picture file, it depends on what type of photos you send...any kind but they'll still buy it. No Kidding......yep. If you need more information you can email me at dfrank at mbe.com.pg and tell me more about yourself and your photos. Kind Regards Daniel Frank Milne Bay Papua New Guinea > -----Original Message----- > From: Heidi Schr?der [SMTP:HiHalloHeidi at lycos.de] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:08 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: offering e-cards > > Hi there everyone, > I am wondering how difficult or maybe even costly it is to offer people > sending e-cards via my site. I mean, I would like to offer my own photos > to be sent as e-cards and somehow hope there might be a way to make some > money through it... is it just a silly dream or does anyone of you know > anything to tell me about how to do it or where to find information about > how to do it. Could not think out a good phrase/words to find anything > with Google, all i got was sites offering to send e-cards. > TIA for any suggestions > Heidi ^ ^<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsubscribe or advertise, visit http://www.HelpOnThe.Net/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) From deepend at tpg.com.au Mon Sep 8 23:44:09 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:44:09 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> XP SP2 Up till 3 or 4 weeks ago, when I opened Control Panel/Network Connections, the icons for the Ethernet NIC card and ISP were showing. Now the Network Connections folder is empty. At the same time, the connection icon in systray also disappeared. There don't seem to be any problems, net connection is fine. But it would be good to have my nice friendly icon back in systray again, so that I can keep an eye on internet activity. Previously, if I wanted to repair the internet connection, I could right click the systray icon/repair. Now, if I want to reset, I have to power the modem off and on. (It only happens rarely, so it's not a real problem) Connection is ADSL via ethernet. What might have caused this, and how can I get the icons back again? Possibly one of my security software might have hidden them for security reasons, though I don't know why. I don't do XP updates any more, so it's not that. There are no other computers networked. Don Penlington From ian at iarp.ca Tue Sep 9 00:09:57 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 00:09:57 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hey Don, Just run the network utility(creating a network) and it should come back. It happens sometimes on my laptop, if i had an xp machine working i could tell you the exact name... but i don't at this time sorry. On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Don Penlington wrote: > XP SP2 > > Up till 3 or 4 weeks ago, when I opened Control Panel/Network Connections, > the icons for the Ethernet NIC card and ISP were showing. > > Now the Network Connections folder is empty. At the same time, the > connection icon in systray also disappeared. > > There don't seem to be any problems, net connection is fine. But it would > be good to have my nice friendly icon back in systray again, so that I can > keep an eye on internet activity. Previously, if I wanted to repair the > internet connection, I could right click the systray icon/repair. Now, if > I want to reset, I have to power the modem off and on. (It only happens > rarely, so it's not a real problem) > > Connection is ADSL via ethernet. > > What might have caused this, and how can I get the icons back again? > > Possibly one of my security software might have hidden them for security > reasons, though I don't know why. > > I don't do XP updates any more, so it's not that. There are no other > computers networked. > > Don Penlington > > > -- Thanks Ian R-P From deepend at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 9 01:42:56 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:42:56 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080909152806.00c51ad8@mail.tpg.com.au> Ian wrote: >Just run the network utility(creating a network)>> In Network connections, I clicked on File/"Network setup wizard". The line is active, but the Wizard doesn't run--nothing happens at all. Part of the same problem I'd guess. Maybe it's been stealthed---how to "unstealth" it? I checked in TweakUI, but don't see anything there to help. Also checked "Tuneup Utilities" in case I'd modified network settings, but don't see any settings which might cause this problem. I also scanned Advanced Windows Care V2 for security defence, but it reports no problems. Omigod---the computer's so secure that even I can't use it without my permission. Don Penlington From tbrandl2 at chello.at Tue Sep 9 10:42:25 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <009301c9128a$4c2c5390$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi Don, I've just checked my own icon here, in order to see whether it's still there. A few weeks ago though I had a similar story - the icon disappeared out of no known reason, I was unable to bring it back. It returned that same way recently. Difference here ... I've alsways had that connection present under Network connections, even tried to toggle the tray icon from there, to no avail. Two options that come to my mind: 1. Look through the events - there might be a hint there, like a warning or an error 2. googling for this kind of missing icon shows e.g. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/825826/EN-US/ 3. Do you have third-party network adapter management software ? A lot more is to be found here: http://www.chicagotech.net/troubleshooting/missingicon1.htm Otherwise, any of your drivers or other software might have come into that icons way... (or: any of your security software, as you've mentioned, after an update ?) Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Penlington" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 5:44 AM Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared > XP SP2 > > Up till 3 or 4 weeks ago, when I opened Control Panel/Network Connections, > the icons for the Ethernet NIC card and ISP were showing. > > Now the Network Connections folder is empty. At the same time, the > connection icon in systray also disappeared. > > There don't seem to be any problems, net connection is fine. But it would > be good to have my nice friendly icon back in systray again, so that I can > keep an eye on internet activity. Previously, if I wanted to repair the > internet connection, I could right click the systray icon/repair. Now, if > I want to reset, I have to power the modem off and on. (It only happens > rarely, so it's not a real problem) > > Connection is ADSL via ethernet. > > What might have caused this, and how can I get the icons back again? > > Possibly one of my security software might have hidden them for security > reasons, though I don't know why. > > I don't do XP updates any more, so it's not that. There are no other > computers networked. > > Don Penlington > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From deepend at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 9 11:34:52 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:34:52 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared In-Reply-To: <009301c9128a$4c2c5390$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080910010402.00c50470@mail.tpg.com.au> Tilman wrote: ><> I've little idea when this first occurred--so don't fancy going thru all the events log looking for a needle in haystack---and I prolly wouldn't end up any wiser. Not even sure whether I have event logging turned on at the moment, I usually disable it as a relatively useless overhead unless perhaps I'm having problems that can't be resolved any other way (fortunately very rare). <> I rarely update software that's working OK, and can't tie this in with any recent updates. I do fiddle around with security software occasionally, so could have made some setting (eg Spybot's "Immunize system"---though I've set that before with no ill effects). I could restore a HD image, but the problem doesn't warrant that---in fact, it's more curiosity than problem, and I can live quite happily without the connection icon. OK---since writing the above, I've looked at the MSKB Tilman refers to--seems to point to a registry corruption. Looks like Device Manager should fix it. Otherwise I'll do a registry restore and see what happens, though I haven't made a registry backup for over a month, so could be a little out of date with recent settings. That'll teach me to be more diligent with registry backups---after all, it's only a 10-second job. Here's an extract from the MSKB, for anyone who's interested: "Method 1: Let Windows automatically detect and install network adapters Windows can automatically detect and install the correct network adapters for you. It will also correct any corrupted registry entries on the network adapter. To direct Windows to automatically detect and install network adapters for you, follow these steps: 1.Right-click My Computer, and then click Properties. 2.Click the Hardware tab, and then click Device Manager. 3.To see a list of installed network adapters, expand Network adapter(s). Click to locate the network adapter, and then click Uninstall. 4.Restart the computer, and then let the system automatically detect and install the network adapter drivers. Check to see whether your networking icons appear. If this method worked for you, you are finished with this article" Thanks for the detective work Tilman. Don Penlington From deepend at tpg.com.au Wed Sep 10 01:33:20 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:33:20 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared--the solution In-Reply-To: <009301c9128a$4c2c5390$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080910152243.00c4a7d0@mail.tpg.com.au> Thanks to Tilman's link, the problem of the missing Network icons is fixed. First, I restored the registry back to a time before the prob started. That fixed it. So I now know it has to be a registry setting. However, I didn't want to keep that particular registry, as it is 3 months out of date. I therefore restored today's registry----back to the missing icons. After starting various Services, with no result, I tried the following fix: "Verify that the network DLL files are registered correctly: a. Click Start, and then click Run. b. Type cmd.exe, and then click OK. c. Type the following lines, and then press ENTER after you type each line. Click OK when the RegSvr32 dialog box appears for each command. regsvr32 netshell.dll regsvr32 netcfgx.dll regsvr32 netman.dll d. Restart the computer." That fixed it. Now all my beloved icons are back and singing away happily. I wonder what caused the de-registration of those Dll's. Must have been some security fix I reckon. Funny, their removal didn't affect internet performance in any way. They can't be too vital. It's only a matter of time before Microsoft comes out with the ultimate security patch----completely deny access to the internet. Then we'll all be safe and secure! Don Penlington From Engineman1 at aol.com Wed Sep 10 13:29:06 2008 From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:29:06 EDT Subject: TSGL: % /_? Message-ID: In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access your router by entering it's IP address into a browser. I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE give me http:// /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they add strange characters to it? Engineman **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) From cosmiovh at lgisp.net Wed Sep 10 13:55:50 2008 From: cosmiovh at lgisp.net (Cosmio Von Hatten - Urban Networks) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:55:50 -0700 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: http://192.168.1.1 Without any spaces Cosmio Von Hatten Technical Consultant / Client Relations Urban Networks Inc. 4647 Hastings Street Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 Tel: (604) 439-8530 Fax: (604) 320-1607 Email: support at ubn.ca To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this message and do not modify the subject line. This electronic communication and any files transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is privileged and confidential and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete this communication from your server. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM To: list at tsgserver.com Subject: TSGL: % /_? In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access your router by entering it's IP address into a browser. I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE give me http:// /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they add strange characters to it? Engineman **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 10 15:17:27 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:17:27 -0700 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6C9A67A1A24046F9A9AE3947EC239B10@OwnersPC> Evidently you are typing the address into the two browsers incorrectly. There should be NO SPACE between the two slash marks (you've typed "http:/ /"). The actual address should be http://192.168.1.1 (with no spaces between any of the characters. That should get you to your router if, indeed, 192.168.1.1 is the actual address of the router. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM To: list at tsgserver.com Subject: TSGL: % /_? In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access your router by entering it's IP address into a browser. I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE give me http:// /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they add strange characters to it? Engineman **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From Engineman1 at aol.com Wed Sep 10 16:58:29 2008 From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:58:29 EDT Subject: TSGL: % /_? Message-ID: OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for her. I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space between the two / /'s (now I have to find my password.) Thanks Cosmio and Russ Engineman In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: http://192.168.1.1 Without any spaces Cosmio Von Hatten Technical Consultant / Client Relations Urban Networks Inc. 4647 Hastings Street Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 Tel: (604) 439-8530 Fax: (604) 320-1607 Email: support at ubn.ca To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this message and do not modify the subject line. This electronic communication and any files transmitted with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information which is privileged and confidential and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and delete this communication from your server. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM To: list at tsgserver.com Subject: TSGL: % /_? In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access your router by entering it's IP address into a browser. I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE give me http:// /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they add strange characters to it? 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(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) From hdavis1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 20:47:35 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:47:35 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Connection icons disappeared--the solution In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080910152243.00c4a7d0@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080909132112.00c45540@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080910152243.00c4a7d0@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <48C86AA7.6040501@gmail.com> Don, Re: "I wonder what caused the de-registration of those Dll's." It might have been only one of them. Glad you found the problem though. I'm making a note for the future. H Davis Don Penlington wrote: > Thanks to Tilman's link, the problem of the missing Network icons is fixed. > > First, I restored the registry back to a time before the prob started. That > fixed it. > > So I now know it has to be a registry setting. > > However, I didn't want to keep that particular registry, as it is 3 months > out of date. I therefore restored today's registry----back to the missing > icons. > > After starting various Services, with no result, I tried the following fix: > > "Verify that the network DLL files are registered correctly: > > a. > Click Start, and then click Run. > > b. > Type cmd.exe, and then click OK. > > c. > Type the following lines, and then press ENTER after you type each line. > Click OK when the RegSvr32 dialog box appears for each command. > > regsvr32 netshell.dll > regsvr32 netcfgx.dll > regsvr32 netman.dll > > d. > Restart the computer." > > That fixed it. Now all my beloved icons are back and singing away happily. > > I wonder what caused the de-registration of those Dll's. Must have been > some security fix I reckon. Funny, their removal didn't affect internet > performance in any way. They can't be too vital. > > It's only a matter of time before Microsoft comes out with the ultimate > security patch----completely deny access to the internet. Then we'll all be > safe and secure! > > Don Penlington > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hdavis1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 21:15:19 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:15:19 -0400 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's nothing there. I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a while and I didn't note any problem using it originally H Davis Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: > OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for > her. > I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space > between the two / /'s > (now I have to find my password.) > Thanks Cosmio and Russ > > Engineman > > > In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: > > The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. > > Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: > > http://192.168.1.1 > > Without any spaces > > Cosmio Von Hatten > Technical Consultant / Client Relations > Urban Networks Inc. > 4647 Hastings Street > Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 > > Tel: (604) 439-8530 > Fax: (604) 320-1607 > Email: support at ubn.ca > > To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this > message and do not modify the subject line. > > This electronic communication and any files transmitted > with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and > may contain information which is privileged and confidential > and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify the sender > and delete this communication from your server. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] > On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM > To: list at tsgserver.com > Subject: TSGL: % /_? > > > In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access > your > router by entering it's IP address into a browser. > I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 > When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to > _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE > give me http:// > /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . > > > They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they > add > strange characters to it? > > Engineman > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From coover at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 10 22:15:11 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:15:11 -0700 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5683D4DC97F34F0799074710EA8F1887@AcerLaptop> H, I tried to connect to my router using IE8 and Firefox 3 and had no problem connecting to it using either. Evidently, you should be able to do so using Firefox. But I am curious about the use of IE6. I realize that you probably do not use IE much, if at all, but it seems to me that to not update it to (at least) IE7 is a bit foolish. IE6 is a huge security risk (the reason so many started going to firefox a couple of years ago - they've stayed with Firefox for other reasons), while, at present, the security problems with IE7 and Firefox 3 are somewhat equivalent. Even if you don't use IE, wouldn't it be wise to update to v.7? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:15 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's nothing there. I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a while and I didn't note any problem using it originally H Davis Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: > OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for > her. > I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space > between the two / /'s > (now I have to find my password.) > Thanks Cosmio and Russ > > Engineman > > > In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: > > The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. > > Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: > > http://192.168.1.1 > > Without any spaces > > Cosmio Von Hatten > Technical Consultant / Client Relations > Urban Networks Inc. > 4647 Hastings Street > Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 > > Tel: (604) 439-8530 > Fax: (604) 320-1607 > Email: support at ubn.ca > > To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this > message and do not modify the subject line. > > This electronic communication and any files transmitted > with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and > may contain information which is privileged and confidential > and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this communication in error, please notify the sender > and delete this communication from your server. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] > On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM > To: list at tsgserver.com > Subject: TSGL: % /_? > > > In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access > your > router by entering it's IP address into a browser. > I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 > When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to > _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE > give me http:// > /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . > > > They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they > add > strange characters to it? > > Engineman > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion > blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, > plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Thu Sep 11 09:18:27 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:18:27 +0200 Subject: TSGL: % /_? References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <005a01c91410$fdd1b0e0$0201a8c0@til4200> Hello H, > Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? Yes, I can - asks me for a name and password though. Your problem could have to do with FF3's security settings. Maybe you can register the router as a known/secure address ? Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Davis" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:15 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? > Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? > > I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; > http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a > completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's > nothing there. > > I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I > originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a > while and I didn't note any problem using it originally > > H Davis > > Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: >> OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for >> her. >> I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space >> between the two / /'s >> (now I have to find my password.) >> Thanks Cosmio and Russ >> >> Engineman >> >> >> In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: >> >> The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. >> >> Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: >> >> http://192.168.1.1 >> >> Without any spaces >> >> Cosmio Von Hatten >> Technical Consultant / Client Relations >> Urban Networks Inc. >> 4647 Hastings Street >> Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 >> >> Tel: (604) 439-8530 >> Fax: (604) 320-1607 >> Email: support at ubn.ca >> >> To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this >> message and do not modify the subject line. >> >> This electronic communication and any files transmitted >> with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and >> may contain information which is privileged and confidential >> and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, >> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> received this communication in error, please notify the sender >> and delete this communication from your server. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] >> On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM >> To: list at tsgserver.com >> Subject: TSGL: % /_? >> >> >> In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access >> your >> router by entering it's IP address into a browser. >> I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 >> When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to >> _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE >> give me http:// >> /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . >> >> >> They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they >> add >> strange characters to it? >> >> Engineman >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> > > -- > H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 11 15:59:11 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:59:11 -0400 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: <5683D4DC97F34F0799074710EA8F1887@AcerLaptop> References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> <5683D4DC97F34F0799074710EA8F1887@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <48C9788F.6020900@gmail.com> Hi Russ, I have IE 7 on another machine and keep IE 6 to check web page designs. I'm hoping to get rid of it but there are still a lot of very late adopters out there. I have a friend that just gave up Netscape 8. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > H, > > I tried to connect to my router using IE8 and Firefox 3 and had no problem > connecting to it using either. Evidently, you should be able to do so using > Firefox. > > But I am curious about the use of IE6. I realize that you probably do not > use IE much, if at all, but it seems to me that to not update it to (at > least) IE7 is a bit foolish. IE6 is a huge security risk (the reason so many > started going to firefox a couple of years ago - they've stayed with Firefox > for other reasons), while, at present, the security problems with IE7 and > Firefox 3 are somewhat equivalent. Even if you don't use IE, wouldn't it be > wise to update to v.7? > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:15 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? > > Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? > > I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; > http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a > completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's > nothing there. > > I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I > originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a > while and I didn't note any problem using it originally > > H Davis > > Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: > >> OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for >> > > >> her. >> I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space >> between the two / /'s >> (now I have to find my password.) >> Thanks Cosmio and Russ >> >> Engineman >> >> >> In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >> cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: >> >> The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. >> >> Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: >> >> http://192.168.1.1 >> >> Without any spaces >> >> Cosmio Von Hatten >> Technical Consultant / Client Relations >> Urban Networks Inc. >> 4647 Hastings Street >> Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 >> >> Tel: (604) 439-8530 >> Fax: (604) 320-1607 >> Email: support at ubn.ca >> >> To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this >> message and do not modify the subject line. >> >> This electronic communication and any files transmitted >> with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and >> may contain information which is privileged and confidential >> and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, >> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >> received this communication in error, please notify the sender >> and delete this communication from your server. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] >> On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM >> To: list at tsgserver.com >> Subject: TSGL: % /_? >> >> >> In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access >> your >> router by entering it's IP address into a browser. >> I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 >> When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to >> _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE >> give me http:// >> /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . >> >> >> They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they >> add >> strange characters to it? >> >> Engineman >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> blog, >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> >> >> >> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >> > blog, > >> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hdavis1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 11 17:42:29 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:42:29 -0400 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: <005a01c91410$fdd1b0e0$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com> <005a01c91410$fdd1b0e0$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <48C990C5.1010105@gmail.com> Russ & Tilman, I know you two have been in a state of high anxiety since my problem arose so I thought I'd bring you up to date. I entered 192.168.1.1 into various browsers and got either a blank page or the password box. If I got the password box I didn't go any further assuming things were OK; wrong! Turns out I couldn't get to the router from any browser FF 3, IE 6 or IE 7. After exhausting my compulsory procrastination period I performed my desperation maneuver and reset the modem by powering it down for a while. That fixed everything. Don't know exactly what was wrong but don't really care. It's amazing that everything else seemed to work fine. This stuff is so finicky that I'm sure it will never become popular. To paraphrase Gen Honore' during hurricane Katrina; life is tough when you're stuck on stupid. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Hello H, > > >> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >> > > Yes, I can - asks me for a name and password though. > > Your problem could have to do with FF3's security settings. Maybe you can > register the router as a known/secure address ? > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H Davis" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:15 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? > > > >> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >> >> I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; >> http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a >> completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's >> nothing there. >> >> I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I >> originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a >> while and I didn't note any problem using it originally >> >> H Davis >> >> Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: >> >>> OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for >>> her. >>> I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space >>> between the two / /'s >>> (now I have to find my password.) >>> Thanks Cosmio and Russ >>> >>> Engineman >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: >>> >>> The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. >>> >>> Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: >>> >>> http://192.168.1.1 >>> >>> Without any spaces >>> >>> Cosmio Von Hatten >>> Technical Consultant / Client Relations >>> Urban Networks Inc. >>> 4647 Hastings Street >>> Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 >>> >>> Tel: (604) 439-8530 >>> Fax: (604) 320-1607 >>> Email: support at ubn.ca >>> >>> To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this >>> message and do not modify the subject line. >>> >>> This electronic communication and any files transmitted >>> with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and >>> may contain information which is privileged and confidential >>> and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >>> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>> received this communication in error, please notify the sender >>> and delete this communication from your server. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] >>> On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM >>> To: list at tsgserver.com >>> Subject: TSGL: % /_? >>> >>> >>> In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access >>> your >>> router by entering it's IP address into a browser. >>> I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 >>> When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to >>> _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE >>> give me http:// >>> /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . >>> >>> >>> They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they >>> add >>> strange characters to it? >>> >>> Engineman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>> blog, >>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>> blog, >>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From coover at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 11 19:16:13 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:16:13 -0700 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: <48C990C5.1010105@gmail.com> References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com><005a01c91410$fdd1b0e0$0201a8c0@til4200> <48C990C5.1010105@gmail.com> Message-ID: <03497E2571B54C14BB2649AD3E971B44@AcerLaptop> If everything else fails, first hit the machine that failed you with your fist one or two times. If that doesn't work, reboot everything, even if it had no connection to the machine that failed you. With modems and routers, rebooting means disconnecting the power for at least 15 seconds. This works 95% of the time. If it doesn't work, fill your trash can with the offensive machinery and plan a trip to your local technology retailer. This will solve most of your problems. However, it sometimes causes a medical condition "liteNtheWallet" or "MTPockets", neither of which are good, particularly when the landlord comes by. Russ -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:42 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? Russ & Tilman, I know you two have been in a state of high anxiety since my problem arose so I thought I'd bring you up to date. I entered 192.168.1.1 into various browsers and got either a blank page or the password box. If I got the password box I didn't go any further assuming things were OK; wrong! Turns out I couldn't get to the router from any browser FF 3, IE 6 or IE 7. After exhausting my compulsory procrastination period I performed my desperation maneuver and reset the modem by powering it down for a while. That fixed everything. Don't know exactly what was wrong but don't really care. It's amazing that everything else seemed to work fine. This stuff is so finicky that I'm sure it will never become popular. To paraphrase Gen Honore' during hurricane Katrina; life is tough when you're stuck on stupid. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Hello H, > > >> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >> > > Yes, I can - asks me for a name and password though. > > Your problem could have to do with FF3's security settings. Maybe you can > register the router as a known/secure address ? > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H Davis" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:15 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? > > > >> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >> >> I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; >> http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a >> completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's >> nothing there. >> >> I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I >> originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a >> while and I didn't note any problem using it originally >> >> H Davis >> >> Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: >> >>> OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle for >>> her. >>> I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space >>> between the two / /'s >>> (now I have to find my password.) >>> Thanks Cosmio and Russ >>> >>> Engineman >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>> cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: >>> >>> The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. >>> >>> Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: >>> >>> http://192.168.1.1 >>> >>> Without any spaces >>> >>> Cosmio Von Hatten >>> Technical Consultant / Client Relations >>> Urban Networks Inc. >>> 4647 Hastings Street >>> Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 >>> >>> Tel: (604) 439-8530 >>> Fax: (604) 320-1607 >>> Email: support at ubn.ca >>> >>> To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this >>> message and do not modify the subject line. >>> >>> This electronic communication and any files transmitted >>> with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and >>> may contain information which is privileged and confidential >>> and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, >>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >>> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>> received this communication in error, please notify the sender >>> and delete this communication from your server. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] >>> On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM >>> To: list at tsgserver.com >>> Subject: TSGL: % /_? >>> >>> >>> In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access >>> your >>> router by entering it's IP address into a browser. >>> I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 >>> When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to >>> _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE >>> give me http:// >>> /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . >>> >>> >>> They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they >>> add >>> strange characters to it? >>> >>> Engineman >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>> blog, >>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>> blog, >>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 11 21:21:42 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:21:42 -0400 Subject: TSGL: % /_? In-Reply-To: <03497E2571B54C14BB2649AD3E971B44@AcerLaptop> References: <48C87127.5040105@gmail.com><005a01c91410$fdd1b0e0$0201a8c0@til4200> <48C990C5.1010105@gmail.com> <03497E2571B54C14BB2649AD3E971B44@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <48C9C426.2040502@gmail.com> I'm filing this excellent, detailed advice for future reference. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > If everything else fails, first hit the machine that failed you with your > fist one or two times. If that doesn't work, reboot everything, even if it > had no connection to the machine that failed you. With modems and routers, > rebooting means disconnecting the power for at least 15 seconds. > > This works 95% of the time. If it doesn't work, fill your trash can with the > offensive machinery and plan a trip to your local technology retailer. > > This will solve most of your problems. However, it sometimes causes a > medical condition "liteNtheWallet" or "MTPockets", neither of which are > good, particularly when the landlord comes by. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:42 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? > > Russ & Tilman, > > I know you two have been in a state of high anxiety since my problem > arose so I thought I'd bring you up to date. > > I entered 192.168.1.1 into various browsers and got either a blank page > or the password box. If I got the password box I didn't go any further > assuming things were OK; wrong! Turns out I couldn't get to the router > from any browser FF 3, IE 6 or IE 7. > > After exhausting my compulsory procrastination period I performed my > desperation maneuver and reset the modem by powering it down for a > while. That fixed everything. Don't know exactly what was wrong but > don't really care. It's amazing that everything else seemed to work > fine. This stuff is so finicky that I'm sure it will never become popular. > > To paraphrase Gen Honore' during hurricane Katrina; life is tough when > you're stuck on stupid. > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: > >> Hello H, >> >> >> >>> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >>> >>> >> Yes, I can - asks me for a name and password though. >> >> Your problem could have to do with FF3's security settings. Maybe you can >> register the router as a known/secure address ? >> >> Tilman >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "H Davis" >> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:15 AM >> Subject: Re: TSGL: % /_? >> >> >> >> >>> Can everyone get this to work with FF 3? >>> >>> I've got the same router and my original notes show the same URL; >>> http://192.168.1.1. It works in IE 6 but not FF 3, I just get a >>> completely blank page. I check the page source for that page and there's >>> nothing there. >>> >>> I can't say for sure but this probably worked with FF 1 or 2 when I >>> originally installed the router because I've been using FF for quite a >>> while and I didn't note any problem using it originally >>> >>> H Davis >>> >>> Engineman1 at aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> OK, I see it all now, Kim screwed me up - 20 lashes with a wet noodle >>>> > for > >>>> her. >>>> I copied the address from her newsletter and I failed to see the space >>>> between the two / /'s >>>> (now I have to find my password.) >>>> Thanks Cosmio and Russ >>>> >>>> Engineman >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 9/10/2008 10:44:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >>>> cosmiovh at lgisp.net writes: >>>> >>>> The %20 is unix or hex or something for a space. >>>> >>>> Try using just 192.168.1.1 without the leading http stuff or just: >>>> >>>> http://192.168.1.1 >>>> >>>> Without any spaces >>>> >>>> Cosmio Von Hatten >>>> Technical Consultant / Client Relations >>>> Urban Networks Inc. >>>> 4647 Hastings Street >>>> Burnaby BC V5C 2K6 >>>> >>>> Tel: (604) 439-8530 >>>> Fax: (604) 320-1607 >>>> Email: support at ubn.ca >>>> >>>> To further discuss this issue, please "Reply" to this >>>> message and do not modify the subject line. >>>> >>>> This electronic communication and any files transmitted >>>> with it are intended only for the use of the addressee and >>>> may contain information which is privileged and confidential >>>> and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, >>>> you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or >>>> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have >>>> received this communication in error, please notify the sender >>>> and delete this communication from your server. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:29 AM >>>> To: list at tsgserver.com >>>> Subject: TSGL: % /_? >>>> >>>> >>>> In today's Kim Kommando computer tips she says that you can access >>>> your >>>> router by entering it's IP address into a browser. >>>> I have a Lynksis which she says is usually http:/ /192.168.1.1 >>>> When I enter that the AOL and Chrome browsers change it to >>>> _http://%20/192.168.1.1_ (http://%20/192.168.1.1) , Firefox and IE >>>> give me http:// >>>> /192.168.1.1 (http://%20/192.168.1) . >>>> >>>> >>>> They all say it cannot be found. How can they find an address if they >>>> add >>>> strange characters to it? >>>> >>>> Engineman >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>>> blog, >>>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion >>>> blog, >>>> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. >>>> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 12 00:56:36 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: Cannot print from web Message-ID: <870666.19668.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am helping a local Baptist minister set up a new computer. Here are the hardware details: Compaq Presario with Vista Home Premium SP1 2 Printers - HP LaserJet P1106 HP OfficeJet 7210 All-in-one Both printers will print a wordpad document. When we try to print the contents of a web page in IE or in FF, the "Print Preview is a blank page. When we hit the print button, both printers will spit out a blank page. Turning off the firewall has no affect on this, and turning off 'windows defender" has no affect either. The only other security SW running is Avast (free version) Anyone have any suggestions or experience with this? TIA Doug McCarter From madfeese at sisp.net Fri Sep 12 01:04:09 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:04:09 -0700 Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 Message-ID: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> Any help for a poor slob still using Windows 98SE? Looks like my Outlook Express Version 6.00.2800.1123 Inbox may be corrupt as I have lost all emails in the inbox twice in the last 3 months. I saw somewhere on the "net" that having "Compact messages in the background" checked was a sure way to cause the Inbox to become corrupted... (Tools - Options - Maintenance - Compact messages in the background.) And that you should uncheck that box and compact the messages youself manually. However, it was not explained fully enough for me to understand how I would compact the messages myself manually... Is there a site where I can download and upgrade my IE6 and OE6 to IE7 or is that not possible since I see VISTA uses IE 7, but uses Windows Mail instead of OE. I do have a new HP VISTA PC but I am also still working with 3 old IBM Windows 98SE PC's, which are giving me problems, trying to save off important (to me) data before they completely stop working. Sorry for the stupid questions. Thanks, Dave F "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.. It's about learning to dance in the rain." Unknown From madfeese at sisp.net Fri Sep 12 01:30:49 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:30:49 -0700 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen Message-ID: <008701c91498$be68e620$9fb1fea9@feese> Hello everyone. Anyone willing to tackle this problem? I have an external 40GB H.D. (Buslink) connected via USB to an IBM PC #E500, 433Mhz, with an AMD K-7 Processor with 256MB RAM, running Windows 98SE. The external HD began making clicking noises several days before it no longer could be seen by the IBM PC. At that time I noticed that the H.D. was VERY HOT and I shut it down. The next time I turned it on, it appeared "In My Computer" only briefly and I have not been able to get the PC to "see" it again. I have about 20GB or more data on this HD that I would like to recover. Seems a long time ago I saw where someone on "the list" told someone who had a HD that had quit working to put that HD in the refrigerator freezer overnight... I don't recall if it worked after that or not. Anyone familiar with this kind of possible "fix" for an external HD that got too hot? Would it harm it to try this? Thank you. Dave F. From ian at iarp.ca Fri Sep 12 02:21:39 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:21:39 -0400 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen In-Reply-To: <008701c91498$be68e620$9fb1fea9@feese> References: <008701c91498$be68e620$9fb1fea9@feese> Message-ID: I've tried the freezer method 3 times now and its worked twice. It's mainly for a read/write head falling off or something around that. Does it even spin when connected to the machine? Just remember it has to be in a air tight bag, and 24hours equals about 20mins of run time if it'll work for your problem. On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Dave Feese wrote: > Hello everyone. Anyone willing to tackle this problem? > > I have an external 40GB H.D. (Buslink) connected via USB to an IBM PC > #E500, 433Mhz, with an AMD K-7 Processor with 256MB RAM, running Windows > 98SE. > > The external HD began making clicking noises several days before it no > longer could be seen by the IBM PC. > > At that time I noticed that the H.D. was VERY HOT and I shut it down. The > next time I turned it on, it appeared "In My Computer" only briefly and I > have not been able to get the PC to "see" it again. I have about 20GB or > more data on this HD that I would like to recover. > > Seems a long time ago I saw where someone on "the list" told someone who > had a HD that had quit working to put that HD in the refrigerator freezer > overnight... I don't recall if it worked after that or not. Anyone > familiar with this kind of possible "fix" for an external HD that got too > hot? Would it harm it to try this? > > Thank you. > > Dave F. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From deepend at tpg.com.au Fri Sep 12 08:16:22 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:16:22 +1000 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen In-Reply-To: <008701c91498$be68e620$9fb1fea9@feese> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080912215710.00c3ce18@mail.tpg.com.au> Dave wrote: >HD that had quit working to put that HD in the refrigerator freezer >overnight>> There are 3 age-old remedies for failed HD's, to use only as a last resort--- "freeze it, bang it, or drop it". 1. Putting it in the freezer for a few hours might shrink the parts sufficient to get some last remnants of life out of it for a few minutes until it thaws. Also lowers electrical resistance in case of an electrical fault. Try that first, as it is the least harmful. Works best in cases of "stiction"--ie read/write head has come into contact with the platter surface. 2. Tap it sharply on the top, bottom, and side with a light hammer---may be enough to unstick a frozen head for a short while. 3. Drop it onto a hard surface from about a foot. May be enough to unstick it--or more likely screw it up for good. Any of these remedies is likely to destroy it forever---so to be used as a last resort. Most techs will tell you that it's amazing how often one or more of these remedies will work long enough to enable you to quickly hook them up to your computer and save some or all of your data before complete failure. I must say I've never had to try them myself. If it became very hot, it's most likely bearing or lubrication failure. So the freezing may be the best option. If your data is valuable, a lab could probably recover it at a cost of several hundred dollars. In which case try only option 1. Don Penlington From embitt at westnet.com.au Fri Sep 12 10:49:39 2008 From: embitt at westnet.com.au (Eric and Merna Bitter) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:49:39 +1000 Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 References: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> Message-ID: <013f01c914e6$cd2298c0$0401a8c0@number12> Dave, Plenty of help is available for us diehard 98SE users. Internet Explorer 7 will not run on 98SE. If you want to use it, you will have to give up 98SE. On the assumption that you don't want to, read on. (a) From http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/sysreq.mspx "Below are the minimum requirements your computer needs to run Internet Explorer 7. (...snipped...) Windows Vista - Internet Explorer 7 is included as a feature within Windows Vista. Internet Explorer 7 will run on Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows XP Service Pack 3 (SP3), Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, and Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Memory requirements listed below are for Internet Explorer itself. Any machine with the recommended amount of memory for Windows (for example, 128 MB for Windows XP and 256 MB for Windows XP Professional x64) will meet the memory requirements for Internet Explorer 7." (b) Info on Internet Explorer and/or Outlook Express at umpteen sites including the following which may or may not be helpful: http://ask-leo.com/from_where_can_i_download_outlook_express_6.html http://www.aumha.org/win5/kbie.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_7 If you wish to continue using 98SE (and I'm still hanging on to it), have a look at http://www.kennedysoftware.ie/rebldoe.htm and the many links contained on that page (many of which contain links to each other). (I was going to send you some of my links from my "E:\WIN_98SE\Favorites\IW email OE etc" folder, but the kennedysoftware link above contains most of the ones I would have posted here.) I have found most of them helpful, especially: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx http://www.insideoe.com/ http://www.oehelp.com/ Not listed at the kennedysoftware link but might also be helpful: http://support.microsoft.com/support/ie/outlookexpress/oe5/howto/default.asp ?SD=gn&LN=en-us&gssnb=1 The current version (5.01) of DBXtract, which you will find mentioned at some of the links, can be found at/ordered from http://www.oehelp.com/dbxtract/default.aspx at a cost of $9.00. I have older versions which I downloaded for free years ago. Version 4.5 still appears at http://www.321download.com/under100/page2.html. It worked fine on my corrupted OE 5.5 a couple of years or more ago, and the site indicates it is also for OE 6. Before I used it, I made copies of all my .dbx files so that I could play with the copies. Some time after using it I found a helpful guide at http://www.updatexp.com/tip23.html. (Too bad I didn't find that before I used it!) Hope this helps. Merna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Feese" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:04 PM Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 Any help for a poor slob still using Windows 98SE? Looks like my Outlook Express Version 6.00.2800.1123 Inbox may be corrupt as I have lost all emails in the inbox twice in the last 3 months. I saw somewhere on the "net" that having "Compact messages in the background" checked was a sure way to cause the Inbox to become corrupted... (Tools - Options - Maintenance - Compact messages in the background.) And that you should uncheck that box and compact the messages youself manually. However, it was not explained fully enough for me to understand how I would compact the messages myself manually... Is there a site where I can download and upgrade my IE6 and OE6 to IE7 or is that not possible since I see VISTA uses IE 7, but uses Windows Mail instead of OE. I do have a new HP VISTA PC but I am also still working with 3 old IBM Windows 98SE PC's, which are giving me problems, trying to save off important (to me) data before they completely stop working. Sorry for the stupid questions. Thanks, Dave F "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.. It's about learning to dance in the rain." Unknown _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1667 - Release Date: 2008-09-11 6:55 PM From coover at fastmail.fm Fri Sep 12 13:12:04 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:12:04 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Cannot print from web In-Reply-To: <870666.19668.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <870666.19668.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B5CEA2E72364BD2B058A2946F8B0DFD@AcerLaptop> Doug, While I haven't heard of this problem in a while, the problem used to be solved by deselecting "Auto-Select" for encoding. To disable the Auto-Select option for encoding, on the View menu, point to Encoding, and then click to clear Auto-Select. If that is your problem, this should solve it, Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Doug Mccarter Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 9:57 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Cannot print from web I am helping a local Baptist minister set up a new computer. Here are the hardware details: Compaq Presario with Vista Home Premium SP1 2 Printers - HP LaserJet P1106 HP OfficeJet 7210 All-in-one Both printers will print a wordpad document. When we try to print the contents of a web page in IE or in FF, the "Print Preview is a blank page. When we hit the print button, both printers will spit out a blank page. Turning off the firewall has no affect on this, and turning off 'windows defender" has no affect either. The only other security SW running is Avast (free version) Anyone have any suggestions or experience with this? TIA Doug McCarter _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Fri Sep 12 13:44:59 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:44:59 -0700 Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 In-Reply-To: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> References: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> Message-ID: <50E5CA1C7F38459990CA38D1033F46E1@AcerLaptop> Dave, IE7 requires (at the very minimum) Windows XP Service Pack 2. Even an XP SP1 machine cannot run IE7. Firefox 2 will run on Windows 98. Firefox 3 will run on any XP and even Windows 2000, but not Windows 98. Opera will run on Windows 98. Avant and Maxthon will not run (according to their websites) on Windows 98. So Opera or Firefox 2 may be your best choice. You should be able to find a download for this at ... http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ As far as email clients go, I would suggest Thunderbird 2 to replace OE. It will run on a Win 98 machine. Download it at ... http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ I wish you well. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Dave Feese Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:04 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 Any help for a poor slob still using Windows 98SE? Looks like my Outlook Express Version 6.00.2800.1123 Inbox may be corrupt as I have lost all emails in the inbox twice in the last 3 months. I saw somewhere on the "net" that having "Compact messages in the background" checked was a sure way to cause the Inbox to become corrupted... (Tools - Options - Maintenance - Compact messages in the background.) And that you should uncheck that box and compact the messages youself manually. However, it was not explained fully enough for me to understand how I would compact the messages myself manually... Is there a site where I can download and upgrade my IE6 and OE6 to IE7 or is that not possible since I see VISTA uses IE 7, but uses Windows Mail instead of OE. I do have a new HP VISTA PC but I am also still working with 3 old IBM Windows 98SE PC's, which are giving me problems, trying to save off important (to me) data before they completely stop working. Sorry for the stupid questions. Thanks, Dave F "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.. It's about learning to dance in the rain." Unknown _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hbcanon at homemail.com Sat Sep 13 12:17:48 2008 From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:17:48 -0400 Subject: TSGL: FIRE FOX 3.0.1 Message-ID: <000b01c915bc$43bf3850$0201a8c0@hbcanon> This is to caution Fire FOX users about possible problems in the latest release of FF- 3.0.01. After downloading and installing FF3.0.1 (over 2.0.16) on my laptop and desktop, clicking on URLS in email would no longer initiate FF. Task manager would show it running with about 12K mem, but no browser screen EVER appeared. This surprised me, as I have never experienced any problem with FF in the past. >From this point, in order to use the FF browser, (1) I killed FF in the task manager, (2) Initiated FF manually, (3) Clicked on the URL, successfully bringing it up. Reinstalling FF 2.0.16 did nothing to alleviate the problem, but I was using the applications files as modified by FF 3.0.1; a clean reinstall might have been successful. On both machines, I simply restored the volumes (with the original FF 2.0.16 installed) , and life went on. This problem as been reported in the FF Bugzilla thing by several users, and experienced also by others in my office on their home machines. I don't sense that FF is very excited about it. At work FF 3.0.01 went in my machine and performs as expected. HBCanon Geneva, FL From madfeese at sisp.net Sat Sep 13 17:13:23 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:13:23 -0700 Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 References: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> <013f01c914e6$cd2298c0$0401a8c0@number12> Message-ID: <003501c915e5$90311680$9fb1fea9@feese> Hi Merna, Thank you very much for all the helpful information and the links. Now I have some options to explore. Dave F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric and Merna Bitter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 > Dave, > > Plenty of help is available for us diehard 98SE users. > > Internet Explorer 7 will not run on 98SE. If you want to use it, you will > have to give up 98SE. On the assumption that you don't want to, read on. > > (a) From http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/sysreq.mspx > > "Below are the minimum requirements your computer needs to run Internet > Explorer 7. > (...snipped...) > Windows Vista - Internet Explorer 7 is included as a feature within Windows > Vista. > Internet Explorer 7 will run on Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), Windows XP > Service Pack 3 (SP3), Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, and Windows > Server 2003 Service Pack 1 (SP1). Memory requirements listed below are for > Internet Explorer itself. Any machine with the recommended amount of memory > for Windows (for example, 128 MB for Windows XP and 256 MB for Windows XP > Professional x64) will meet the memory requirements for Internet Explorer > 7." > > (b) Info on Internet Explorer and/or Outlook Express at umpteen sites > including the following which may or may not be helpful: > > http://ask-leo.com/from_where_can_i_download_outlook_express_6.html > http://www.aumha.org/win5/kbie.php > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_7 > > If you wish to continue using 98SE (and I'm still hanging on to it), have a > look at > http://www.kennedysoftware.ie/rebldoe.htm > and the many links contained on that page (many of which contain links to > each other). > > (I was going to send you some of my links from my "E:\WIN_98SE\Favorites\IW > email OE etc" folder, but the kennedysoftware link above contains most of > the ones I would have posted here.) > > I have found most of them helpful, especially: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx > http://www.insideoe.com/ > http://www.oehelp.com/ > > Not listed at the kennedysoftware link but might also be helpful: > http://support.microsoft.com/support/ie/outlookexpress/oe5/howto/default.asp > ?SD=gn&LN=en-us&gssnb=1 > > The current version (5.01) of DBXtract, which you will find mentioned at > some of the links, can be found at/ordered from > http://www.oehelp.com/dbxtract/default.aspx at a cost of $9.00. > > I have older versions which I downloaded for free years ago. Version 4.5 > still appears at http://www.321download.com/under100/page2.html. It worked > fine on my corrupted OE 5.5 a couple of years or more ago, and the site > indicates it is also for OE 6. > > Before I used it, I made copies of all my .dbx files so that I could play > with the copies. Some time after using it I found a helpful guide at > http://www.updatexp.com/tip23.html. (Too bad I didn't find that before I > used it!) > > Hope this helps. > > Merna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Feese" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 3:04 PM > Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 > > > Any help for a poor slob still using Windows 98SE? > > Looks like my Outlook Express Version 6.00.2800.1123 Inbox may be corrupt as > I have lost all emails in the inbox twice in the last 3 months. > > I saw somewhere on the "net" that having "Compact messages in the > background" checked was a sure way to cause the Inbox to become corrupted... > (Tools - Options - Maintenance - Compact messages in the background.) And > that you should uncheck that box and compact the messages youself manually. > However, it was not explained fully enough for me to understand how I would > compact the messages myself manually... > > Is there a site where I can download and upgrade my IE6 and OE6 to IE7 or is > that not possible since I see VISTA uses IE 7, but uses Windows Mail instead > of OE. > > I do have a new HP VISTA PC but I am also still working with 3 old IBM > Windows 98SE PC's, which are giving me problems, trying to save off > important (to me) data before they completely stop working. > > Sorry for the stupid questions. > > Thanks, > Dave F > > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.. It's about learning to > dance in the rain." > Unknown > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1667 - Release Date: 2008-09-11 > 6:55 PM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From madfeese at sisp.net Sat Sep 13 17:15:19 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:15:19 -0700 Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 References: <005801c91495$00a892a0$9fb1fea9@feese> <50E5CA1C7F38459990CA38D1033F46E1@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <003b01c915e5$d5ec5860$9fb1fea9@feese> Hi Russ, I appreciate your reply very much. You have told me what I suspected about IE7 not being able to run on a Windows 98SE system. Thank you for the links and suggestions as to my alternatives. I will be exploring these. Thanks again. Dave F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell W. Coover" To: "'Tech Support Guy Mailing List'" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 > Dave, > > IE7 requires (at the very minimum) Windows XP Service Pack 2. Even an > XP SP1 machine cannot run IE7. Firefox 2 will run on Windows 98. Firefox 3 > will run on any XP and even Windows 2000, but not Windows 98. Opera will run > on Windows 98. Avant and Maxthon will not run (according to their websites) > on Windows 98. > > So Opera or Firefox 2 may be your best choice. You should be able to find a > download for this at ... > > http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ > > As far as email clients go, I would suggest Thunderbird 2 to replace OE. It > will run on a Win 98 machine. Download it at ... > > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ > > I wish you well. > > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Dave Feese > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:04 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: TSGL: IE6 Upgrade to IE7 > > Any help for a poor slob still using Windows 98SE? > > Looks like my Outlook Express Version 6.00.2800.1123 Inbox may be corrupt as > I have lost all emails in the inbox twice in the last 3 months. > > I saw somewhere on the "net" that having "Compact messages in the > background" checked was a sure way to cause the Inbox to become corrupted... > (Tools - Options - Maintenance - Compact messages in the background.) And > that you should uncheck that box and compact the messages youself manually. > However, it was not explained fully enough for me to understand how I would > compact the messages myself manually... > > Is there a site where I can download and upgrade my IE6 and OE6 to IE7 or is > that not possible since I see VISTA uses IE 7, but uses Windows Mail instead > of OE. > > I do have a new HP VISTA PC but I am also still working with 3 old IBM > Windows 98SE PC's, which are giving me problems, trying to save off > important (to me) data before they completely stop working. > > Sorry for the stupid questions. > > Thanks, > Dave F > > "Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.. It's about learning to > dance in the rain." > Unknown > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From madfeese at sisp.net Sat Sep 13 17:23:21 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:23:21 -0700 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen References: <4.3.2.20080912215710.00c3ce18@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <004101c915e6$f4effe00$9fb1fea9@feese> Hi Don, I think I will probably be trying the "freezer - fix" method and keeping my fingers crossed that it works! I actually got the darn thing working yesterday for a little while just by holding it in my hands and tipping it this way (gently) and that. Something inside (the HD itself, I presume) slides back and forth in the case. When it is not being seen by the PC, it does make a "whirring" sound and my guess is that the HD is spinning but it also makes a "scraping" sound. I was able to copy some data off of it onto my PC's H.D. before it got too hot and quit working. I don't understand how these external H.D.'s can last very long since they seem to get so hot (at least the buslink does.) No way of being cooled unless I were to put it in front of a fan... Thank you, Dave F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Penlington" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: External HD not seen > Dave wrote: > >HD that had quit working to put that HD in the refrigerator freezer > >overnight>> > > > There are 3 age-old remedies for failed HD's, to use only as a last > resort--- "freeze it, bang it, or drop it". > > 1. Putting it in the freezer for a few hours might shrink the parts > sufficient to get some last remnants of life out of it for a few minutes > until it thaws. Also lowers electrical resistance in case of an electrical > fault. Try that first, as it is the least harmful. Works best in cases of > "stiction"--ie read/write head has come into contact with the platter surface. > > 2. Tap it sharply on the top, bottom, and side with a light hammer---may be > enough to unstick a frozen head for a short while. > > 3. Drop it onto a hard surface from about a foot. May be enough to unstick > it--or more likely screw it up for good. > > Any of these remedies is likely to destroy it forever---so to be used as a > last resort. Most techs will tell you that it's amazing how often one or > more of these remedies will work long enough to enable you to quickly hook > them up to your computer and save some or all of your data before complete > failure. I must say I've never had to try them myself. > > If it became very hot, it's most likely bearing or lubrication failure. So > the freezing may be the best option. > > If your data is valuable, a lab could probably recover it at a cost of > several hundred dollars. In which case try only option 1. > > Don Penlington > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From madfeese at sisp.net Sat Sep 13 17:26:38 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:26:38 -0700 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen References: <008701c91498$be68e620$9fb1fea9@feese> Message-ID: <004b01c915e7$6a55b400$9fb1fea9@feese> Hi Ian, Thank you for your reply. At least now I know my memory of someone else being told about this method was not just my imagination working overtime. I will no doubt be trying this method as the Buslink keeps getting too hot. I did get it working for a short time yesterday but then it quit again. Thanks again, Dave F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ramsey-Planck" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:21 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: External HD not seen > I've tried the freezer method 3 times now and its worked twice. It's mainly > for a read/write head falling off or something around that. > > Does it even spin when connected to the machine? > > Just remember it has to be in a air tight bag, and 24hours equals about > 20mins of run time if it'll work for your problem. > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Dave Feese wrote: > > > Hello everyone. Anyone willing to tackle this problem? > > > > I have an external 40GB H.D. (Buslink) connected via USB to an IBM PC > > #E500, 433Mhz, with an AMD K-7 Processor with 256MB RAM, running Windows > > 98SE. > > > > The external HD began making clicking noises several days before it no > > longer could be seen by the IBM PC. > > > > At that time I noticed that the H.D. was VERY HOT and I shut it down. The > > next time I turned it on, it appeared "In My Computer" only briefly and I > > have not been able to get the PC to "see" it again. I have about 20GB or > > more data on this HD that I would like to recover. > > > > Seems a long time ago I saw where someone on "the list" told someone who > > had a HD that had quit working to put that HD in the refrigerator freezer > > overnight... I don't recall if it worked after that or not. Anyone > > familiar with this kind of possible "fix" for an external HD that got too > > hot? Would it harm it to try this? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Dave F. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From deepend at tpg.com.au Sat Sep 13 21:04:07 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:04:07 +1000 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen In-Reply-To: <004101c915e6$f4effe00$9fb1fea9@feese> References: <4.3.2.20080912215710.00c3ce18@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080914105724.00c428e8@mail.tpg.com.au> At 02:23 PM 9/13/2008 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Don, > >I think I will probably be trying the "freezer - fix" method and keeping >my fingers crossed that it works! When you take it out of the freezer, stand it between 2 icepacks---that should help keep it cool a little longer. Don't run it too long--just short bursts to get a little data off at a time. Then let it cool again with the icepacks. Driving it till the heat sticks it means the heads are likely coming into contact with the platter and this will quickly destroy it. That's the scraping noise you hear--or could be a broken bearing. Either way, heat will kill it beyond recovery. Don Penlington From madfeese at sisp.net Sun Sep 14 03:57:05 2008 From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave Feese) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:57:05 -0700 Subject: TSGL: External HD not seen References: <4.3.2.20080912215710.00c3ce18@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080914105724.00c428e8@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000b01c9163f$7cbd47e0$9fb1fea9@new2> Hi Don, Many thanks for the additional information as to how I should go about this! I really do appreciate your help and, with any luck at all, I just might be able to recover my data off the HD before it quits for good. Thanks again, Dave F. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Penlington" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: External HD not seen > At 02:23 PM 9/13/2008 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi Don, > > > >I think I will probably be trying the "freezer - fix" method and keeping > >my fingers crossed that it works! > > When you take it out of the freezer, stand it between 2 icepacks---that > should help keep it cool a little longer. Don't run it too long--just short > bursts to get a little data off at a time. Then let it cool again with the > icepacks. > > Driving it till the heat sticks it means the heads are likely coming into > contact with the platter and this will quickly destroy it. That's the > scraping noise you hear--or could be a broken bearing. Either way, heat > will kill it beyond recovery. > > Don Penlington > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From genoe at charter.net Sun Sep 14 12:57:00 2008 From: genoe at charter.net (gene) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:57:00 -0500 Subject: TSGL: path box Message-ID: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Hi Everyone I might be stupid but here goes....................... How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? Thanks, Gene From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 13:30:09 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:30:09 -0400 Subject: TSGL: path box In-Reply-To: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com> Gene, If I understand your question correctly I think you're talking about the Target of the shortcut. If you right click on the shortcut then click on properties you can see the Target box. You have to put the complete path of the program or other file you want the shortcut to activate when clicked. Some shortcuts will also require something in the Start in: box or they will give you an error when you close them. HTH H Davis gene wrote: > Hi Everyone > I might be stupid but here goes....................... > How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? > Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? > Thanks, > Gene > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From jonpan at onlinehome.de Sun Sep 14 14:16:36 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:16:36 +0200 Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core Message-ID: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Hi all, Under XP SP2, msconfig References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Create a Quick Shutdown Icon for your Desktop This method of shutting down your PC will be much quicker than starting the process with the START button. It also forces stubborn programs to close. Create a New Shortcut on your desktop and put this line in the path box. %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00 -f Save the shortcut and you now have yourself a quick way to shutdown Windows. On my own PC, using ?Quick Shutdown? .Shutdown only takes five to eight seconds. This is what i'm trying to accomplish but it's not working Gene At 12:30 PM 9/14/2008, you wrote: >Gene, > >If I understand your question correctly I think you're talking about the >Target of the shortcut. If you right click on the shortcut then click on >properties you can see the Target box. You have to put the complete path >of the program or other file you want the shortcut to activate when clicked. > >Some shortcuts will also require something in the Start in: box or they >will give you an error when you close them. > >HTH > >H Davis > >gene wrote: > > Hi Everyone > > I might be stupid but here goes....................... > > How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? > > Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? > > Thanks, > > Gene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > >-- >H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Support Guy Mailing List >http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 16:50:17 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:50:17 -0400 Subject: TSGL: path box In-Reply-To: <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com> <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <48CD7909.4080904@gmail.com> Gene, What operating system are you using? What does it do or not do when you say "it's not working"? H Davis gene wrote: > Create a Quick Shutdown Icon for your Desktop > This method of shutting down your > PC > will be much quicker than starting the process > with the START button. It also forces stubborn > programs to close. Create a New Shortcut on your > desktop and put this line in the path box. > > %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00 -f > Save the shortcut and you now have yourself a quick way to shutdown Windows. > On my own PC, using "Quick Shutdown"....Shutdown > only takes five to eight seconds. > > This is what i'm trying to accomplish but it's not working > Gene > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 12:30 PM 9/14/2008, you wrote: > >> Gene, >> >> If I understand your question correctly I think you're talking about the >> Target of the shortcut. If you right click on the shortcut then click on >> properties you can see the Target box. You have to put the complete path >> of the program or other file you want the shortcut to activate when clicked. >> >> Some shortcuts will also require something in the Start in: box or they >> will give you an error when you close them. >> >> HTH >> >> H Davis >> >> gene wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone >>> I might be stupid but here goes....................... >>> How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? >>> Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? >>> Thanks, >>> Gene >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From ian at iarp.ca Sun Sep 14 20:33:12 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:33:12 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Message-ID: Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P From Engineman1 at aol.com Sun Sep 14 20:41:16 2008 From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:41:16 EDT Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Message-ID: In briefcase - everytime a document in it changes. To my external HD, every 2 weeks or so. Engineman In a message dated 9/14/2008 5:33:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ian at iarp.ca writes: Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) From slu at pupik.com Sun Sep 14 20:46:27 2008 From: slu at pupik.com (Lyn Blyden & Les Ungerleider) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:46:27 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A933A9AE86648EC807BFDEA34439EDB@S0027665741> To an external hard drive about once a month, home system, used only by wife and me. Lyn and Les -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:33 PM To: TSGL Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From Bateach3 at aol.com Sun Sep 14 21:17:37 2008 From: Bateach3 at aol.com (Bateach3 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:17:37 EDT Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Message-ID: I back up at home every 1 or 2 months. My computer gives me reminders. Having crashed computers, I know how important this step can be. Bateach3 **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 21:23:49 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:23:49 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48CDB925.9040206@gmail.com> Ian, I back up very couple of days to a network drive. Or at the end of any day I do major work. Backups are in the form of 5 rotating backups (oldest one replaced each time I backup) for each of 2 machines. My scheme backs up only those files that have changed so it takes only about 5 - 10 minutes usually. I don't back up the operating system (my bad). H Davis Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote: > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hasanatkhan at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 00:53:30 2008 From: hasanatkhan at gmail.com (A Hasanat Khan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:53:30 +0600 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: <5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron> Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have XP SP3. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "ListTSG" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > Hi all, > > Under XP SP2, msconfig NUMPROC= > If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 > for a dual-core processor. > > Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter boot > times? Does SP3 allow the change? > > All the best, > > John > > Od/G > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jonpan at onlinehome.de Mon Sep 15 02:19:20 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:19:20 +0200 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron> Message-ID: <001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder what the big warning is? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have XP SP3. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "ListTSG" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > Hi all, > > Under XP SP2, msconfig NUMPROC= > If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 > for a dual-core processor. > > Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter boot > times? Does SP3 allow the change? > > All the best, > > John > > Od/G > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From deepend at tpg.com.au Mon Sep 15 02:30:40 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:30:40 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080915162656.00c662a0@mail.tpg.com.au> Not terribly important stuff----Monthly. Really important stuff--immediately. Absolutely essential stuff---I think about it moments after the crash. Don Penlington From rbrunton at accesswave.ca Mon Sep 15 05:24:37 2008 From: rbrunton at accesswave.ca (Ron Brunton) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:24:37 -0300 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c91714$df843ca0$9e8cb5e0$@ca> About every week to two weeks. If there have been significant changes, I back up immediately - to a network drive. Monthly to every two months I save the network backup to DVD. I use ZipBackup for all this. Ron -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck Sent: September-14-08 9:33 PM To: TSGL Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3441 (20080915) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3441 (20080915) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From anthony at shearmans.co.uk Mon Sep 15 05:40:00 2008 From: anthony at shearmans.co.uk (Anthony Shearman) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:40:00 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: Message-ID: <70A378E7EA4D4CC98C244A045CE144AD@ACERASPIRE> All my files including e-mail, are kept on a separate drive. No, I don't back-up. Sorry. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ramsey-Planck" To: "TSGL" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:33 AM Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 14/09/2008 7:16 From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Mon Sep 15 06:29:16 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:29:16 +0200 Subject: TSGL: SMART info In-Reply-To: <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com> <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADAF@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> With one of my computers I can not see the hard disc temperature using any sw. I tried with DTemp, SiSoftware sandra, SpeedFan etc I don't think there is anything wrong with the applications but rather that SMART is not enabled. I could not see any option to enable SMART in BIOS (the OEM BIOS is VERY limited in terms of options). Is there anywhere in Windows I can enable SMART? Using Vista Home with SP1 From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Mon Sep 15 06:31:54 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:31:54 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <70A378E7EA4D4CC98C244A045CE144AD@ACERASPIRE> References: <70A378E7EA4D4CC98C244A045CE144AD@ACERASPIRE> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADB8@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> On my work PC, every day On my home PC, once every week I'm using SyncBack as back up tool so the process is very simple. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Shearman Sent: den 15 september 2008 11:40 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll All my files including e-mail, are kept on a separate drive. No, I don't back-up. Sorry. Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ramsey-Planck" To: "TSGL" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:33 AM Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1671 - Release Date: 14/09/2008 7:16 _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Mon Sep 15 06:36:14 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:36:14 +0200 Subject: TSGL: path box In-Reply-To: <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com> <20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADD2@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> My own shut down shortcut got %SystemRoot%\System32\shutdown.exe -f -t 00 /s in the target field and that works fine for me. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of gene Sent: den 14 september 2008 21:17 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: path box Create a Quick Shutdown Icon for your Desktop This method of shutting down your P C will be much quicker than starting the process with the START button. It also forces stubborn programs to close. Create a New Shortcut on your desktop and put this line in the path box. %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00 -f Save the shortcut and you now have yourself a quick way to shutdown Windows. On my own PC, using "Quick Shutdown"....Shutdown only takes five to eight seconds. This is what i'm trying to accomplish but it's not working Gene At 12:30 PM 9/14/2008, you wrote: >Gene, > >If I understand your question correctly I think you're talking about >the Target of the shortcut. If you right click on the shortcut then >click on properties you can see the Target box. You have to put the >complete path of the program or other file you want the shortcut to activate when clicked. > >Some shortcuts will also require something in the Start in: box or they >will give you an error when you close them. > >HTH > >H Davis > >gene wrote: > > Hi Everyone > > I might be stupid but here goes....................... > > How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? > > Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? > > Thanks, > > Gene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > >-- >H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Support Guy Mailing List >http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Mon Sep 15 06:58:01 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:58:01 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: Message-ID: <050901c91721$ef92ba60$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi, - my sytem XP SP2 from C:\ gets backed up twice a week , and written to a CD each month or so - important data (spreadsheets, documents) too are backed up twice a week to a spare HDD - files/folders that don't change that often like my pictures are backed up only about one a month, and later written onto DVDs Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ramsey-Planck" To: "TSGL" Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:33 AM Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P From hasanatkhan at gmail.com Mon Sep 15 08:58:13 2008 From: hasanatkhan at gmail.com (A Hasanat Khan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:58:13 +0600 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron> <001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From jonpan at onlinehome.de Mon Sep 15 09:48:05 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:48:05 +0200 Subject: TSGL: path box References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com><20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADD2@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <000601c91739$aeb63040$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Gene, try this: Right click on desktop. Choose "New", then "Shortcut" In the box of the Windows Shortcut Wizard type shutdown -s -t 00 -f (Note the spaces) Click "Next" Accept name or abbreviate to Shutdown or Quickout or whatever Click "finish" Best, John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Bo Maurin To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: path box My own shut down shortcut got %SystemRoot%\System32\shutdown.exe -f -t 00 /s in the target field and that works fine for me. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of gene Sent: den 14 september 2008 21:17 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: path box Create a Quick Shutdown Icon for your Desktop This method of shutting down your P C will be much quicker than starting the process with the START button. It also forces stubborn programs to close. Create a New Shortcut on your desktop and put this line in the path box. %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00 -f Save the shortcut and you now have yourself a quick way to shutdown Windows. On my own PC, using "Quick Shutdown"....Shutdown only takes five to eight seconds. This is what i'm trying to accomplish but it's not working Gene At 12:30 PM 9/14/2008, you wrote: >Gene, > >If I understand your question correctly I think you're talking about >the Target of the shortcut. If you right click on the shortcut then >click on properties you can see the Target box. You have to put the >complete path of the program or other file you want the shortcut to activate when clicked. > >Some shortcuts will also require something in the Start in: box or they >will give you an error when you close them. > >HTH > >H Davis > >gene wrote: > > Hi Everyone > > I might be stupid but here goes....................... > > How do you put aline of text into a shortcut path box? > > Simple right?...........but not for me . What is a path box? > > Thanks, > > Gene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > >-- >H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Support Guy Mailing List >http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hbcanon at homemail.com Tue Sep 16 00:14:11 2008 From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:14:11 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005601c917b2$ac46fa00$0201a8c0@hbcanon> I take a full volume save wed and Sat each week. HBCanon Geneva, FL -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 20:33 To: TSGL Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From justin at whisperer.com.au Tue Sep 16 01:49:03 2008 From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:49:03 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com> I mirror image my C drive every 3 months to an external hard drive using Acronis True Image Justin 2008/9/15 Ian Ramsey-Planck > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) From jonpan at onlinehome.de Tue Sep 16 05:03:27 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:03:27 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Hi Justin, do you have to read from right to left after restoring the mirror image? But seriously, which version of Acronis are you using and do you keep a copy of the very first image you made? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: The Computer Whisperer To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll I mirror image my C drive every 3 months to an external hard drive using Acronis True Image Justin 2008/9/15 Ian Ramsey-Planck > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From justin at whisperer.com.au Tue Sep 16 05:19:10 2008 From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:19:10 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> References: <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com> <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: <2852b8d40809160219p487dbccw8d136dc5334bae01@mail.gmail.com> Hi John actually no, I take the image with a camera in the mirror, and then when I restore I take a photograph of the mirror picture, and voila... it's back the right way around. :-) No, I do not keep an incremental backup. It's only the latest one that gets kept. I have some super old backups somewhere on old hard drives floating around. I use version 10 of Acronis Home as that's what was available when I purchased. It still lets me do everything I need and will even boot from the CD to backup and restore. Justin 2008/9/16 jonpan > Hi Justin, do you have to read from right to left after restoring the > mirror image? > > But seriously, which version of Acronis are you using and do you keep a > copy of the very first image you made? > > John > > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Computer Whisperer > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > > > I mirror image my C drive every 3 months to an external hard drive using > Acronis True Image > > Justin > > 2008/9/15 Ian Ramsey-Planck > > > Hey, > > > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > > something i'm writing up for a class. > > > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > > often... just wondering. > > > > -- > > Thanks > > Ian R-P > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > http://www.whisperer.com.au > > The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. > > Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. > > Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 > Mobile 0406 467 701 > > Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) From deepend at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 16 07:48:37 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:48:37 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40809160219p487dbccw8d136dc5334bae01@mail.gmail.com > References: <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com> <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080916213530.00c3a770@mail.tpg.com.au> Justin wrote: >I take the image with a camera in the mirror>> Great idea. I just tried it but couldn't get the screws back in on top of the hard drive while holding all those clockwork springs in at the same time. Ended up with tiny cogwheels embedded in the kitchen ceiling. Now my hard drive won't read or write. I restarted the computer, put the fire out OK, but I think the fire extinguisher might have drowned the CPU 'cos now nothing works. Anyway, it's all OK. The house was covered by insurance---or would have been if I'd remembered to pay the premium on time. Anyone got a spare room for a computerless/homeless old geek? Don Penlington Don Penlington From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland. Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website: http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html From orf at internode.on.net Tue Sep 16 07:53:34 2008 From: orf at internode.on.net (Orf Bartrop) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:53:34 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40809160219p487dbccw8d136dc5334bae01@mail.gmail.com> References: <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com> <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <2852b8d40809160219p487dbccw8d136dc5334bae01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48CF9E3E.4000705@internode.on.net> I use Norton Ghost to clone my "C" drive. I created 3 floppies with instructions on backing up to 3 files on an external drive. I could have used CDs but I chose floppies. Just slip a floppy into the slot and the computer will boot using that floppy. The backup only requires one click to start. The external drive holds all 3 backups and deletes the one that is being replaced. Orf From johnmount6 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 16 09:04:01 2008 From: johnmount6 at hotmail.com (john mount) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:04:01 +0800 Subject: TSGL: FlashGot Message-ID: Hi Everyone, I have been trying to uninstall FlashGot, from Fire Fox, but no matter how I try I cannot find the Slippery Little Sucker. Any ideas would be appreciated. Using XP sp2. Thanks. John _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602 From johnmount6 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 16 09:15:39 2008 From: johnmount6 at hotmail.com (john mount) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:15:39 +0800 Subject: TSGL: FlashGot Message-ID: I have been trying to uninstall FlashGot, from Fire Fox, but no matter how I try I cannot find the Slippery Little Sucker. Any ideas would be appreciated. Using XP sp2. Sorry a correction on that it is XP sp3 and Fire Fox 3. Thanks.John _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602 From jonpan at onlinehome.de Tue Sep 16 09:37:00 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:37:00 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: <2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com><001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <2852b8d40809160219p487dbccw8d136dc5334bae01@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000601c91801$4ce2b690$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Thanks, Justin, for a good laugh! John ----- Original Message ----- From: The Computer Whisperer To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:19 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Hi John actually no, I take the image with a camera in the mirror, and then when I restore I take a photograph of the mirror picture, and voila... it's back the right way around. :-) No, I do not keep an incremental backup. It's only the latest one that gets kept. I have some super old backups somewhere on old hard drives floating around. I use version 10 of Acronis Home as that's what was available when I purchased. It still lets me do everything I need and will even boot from the CD to backup and restore. Justin 2008/9/16 jonpan > Hi Justin, do you have to read from right to left after restoring the > mirror image? > > But seriously, which version of Acronis are you using and do you keep a > copy of the very first image you made? > > John > > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Computer Whisperer > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > > > I mirror image my C drive every 3 months to an external hard drive using > Acronis True Image > > Justin > > 2008/9/15 Ian Ramsey-Planck > > > Hey, > > > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > > something i'm writing up for a class. > > > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > > often... just wondering. > > > > -- > > Thanks > > Ian R-P > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > http://www.whisperer.com.au > > The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. > > Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. > > Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 > Mobile 0406 467 701 > > Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Tue Sep 16 09:41:35 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:41:35 +0200 Subject: TSGL: FlashGot References: Message-ID: <072e01c91801$f2ac45a0$0201a8c0@til4200> Have you tried Tools | Addons ? Or Ctrl+Shift+A Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "john mount" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: TSGL: FlashGot > > I have been trying to uninstall FlashGot, from Fire Fox, but no matter how > I try I cannot find the Slippery Little Sucker. Any ideas would be > appreciated. Using XP sp2. Sorry a correction on that it is XP sp3 and > Fire Fox 3. Thanks.John From jonpan at onlinehome.de Tue Sep 16 15:10:22 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:10:22 +0200 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron><001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: <03407366E13D46EDBC159DCE1FFDF9F6@johnsp2> Hi Hasanat, Well, I finally installed SP3 and looked at boot.ini again - no change, still only 1. Did you change yours? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From jonpan at onlinehome.de Tue Sep 16 15:41:12 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:41:12 +0200 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron><001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2> Message-ID: <68ADE5C76FB2485F955B08371C94D9D6@johnsp2> Later: I was able to change the number of processors to 2 by opening boot.ini with wordpad from C:\ It was then set at two in the advanced settings from msconfig. Problem solved.. Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 16 17:18:37 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:18:37 -0700 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core In-Reply-To: <68ADE5C76FB2485F955B08371C94D9D6@johnsp2> References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron><001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <68ADE5C76FB2485F955B08371C94D9D6@johnsp2> Message-ID: John, Interesting! Did the change make any differences? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of jonpan Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:41 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core Later: I was able to change the number of processors to 2 by opening boot.ini with wordpad from C:\ It was then set at two in the advanced settings from msconfig. Problem solved.. Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 16 17:23:12 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:23:12 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> Every single day! (Acronis True Image, done automatically with no input from me except for the original setup) Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:33 PM To: TSGL Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Hey, A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with something i'm writing up for a class. So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how often... just wondering. -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 16 17:45:06 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:45:06 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080916213530.00c3a770@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2><2852b8d40809152249j7a11c4b7g578b51263538c166@mail.gmail.com><001201c917db$1738e0d0$2202a8c0@johnsp2> <4.3.2.20080916213530.00c3a770@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Yes, we've got a room for you Don, right here in the mountains. My wife says I need a laugh or two every day, and you're just the guy to give them. And I'll even let you play with my wife's computer (no, not with my wife, with her computer) and it really works, at least better than the one that burned your house down. It's warm here now (we're at the end of summer up here in the Northern Hemisphere), but it will be cooling soon, so come on up. The air is thin, but at least it's clean. Ah, living in the forest .... Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Don Penlington Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:49 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll Justin wrote: >I take the image with a camera in the mirror>> Great idea. I just tried it but couldn't get the screws back in on top of the hard drive while holding all those clockwork springs in at the same time. Ended up with tiny cogwheels embedded in the kitchen ceiling. Now my hard drive won't read or write. I restarted the computer, put the fire out OK, but I think the fire extinguisher might have drowned the CPU 'cos now nothing works. Anyway, it's all OK. The house was covered by insurance---or would have been if I'd remembered to pay the premium on time. Anyone got a spare room for a computerless/homeless old geek? Don Penlington Don Penlington From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland. Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website: http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Tue Sep 16 17:56:31 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:56:31 -0700 Subject: TSGL: SMART info In-Reply-To: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADAF@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com><20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADAF@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: Have you tried SIW? http://www.gtopala.com/ It is excellent. It reports the temperature of my hard drive is presently 31 degrees C or 87 degrees F (actually 31 C = 87.8 F, so maybe it is slightly lower than 31 C) Sudden idea ... the report was on a Hard Drive connected to the computer through an IDE controller. Perhaps your computer has a SATA drive and maybe, just maybe SATA drives are not listed? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Bo Maurin Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 3:29 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: SMART info With one of my computers I can not see the hard disc temperature using any sw. I tried with DTemp, SiSoftware sandra, SpeedFan etc I don't think there is anything wrong with the applications but rather that SMART is not enabled. I could not see any option to enable SMART in BIOS (the OEM BIOS is VERY limited in terms of options). Is there anywhere in Windows I can enable SMART? Using Vista Home with SP1 _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 22:11:57 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:11:57 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> References: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> Message-ID: <48D0676D.7000509@gmail.com> For those interested: Acronis True Image 11 Home for $9.99 (One week only) Expires Sept 19. http://www.techsupportalert.com/acronis-true-image-11-home.htm. No warranties expressed or implied. Just passing the info along. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > Every single day! (Acronis True Image, done automatically with no input from > me except for the original setup) > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:33 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hdavis1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 16 22:17:29 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:17:29 -0400 Subject: TSGL: FlashGot In-Reply-To: <072e01c91801$f2ac45a0$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <072e01c91801$f2ac45a0$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <48D068B9.3020608@gmail.com> Or, more specifically, Tools, Add-ons, Extensions, (Select FlashGot), Uninstall. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Have you tried Tools | Addons ? > Or Ctrl+Shift+A > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john mount" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:15 PM > Subject: TSGL: FlashGot > > > >> I have been trying to uninstall FlashGot, from Fire Fox, but no matter how >> I try I cannot find the Slippery Little Sucker. Any ideas would be >> appreciated. Using XP sp2. Sorry a correction on that it is XP sp3 and >> Fire Fox 3. Thanks.John >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From nortnarg at gmail.com Wed Sep 17 02:10:13 2008 From: nortnarg at gmail.com (Ron Grant) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:10:13 -0500 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll In-Reply-To: <48D0676D.7000509@gmail.com> References: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> <48D0676D.7000509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D09F45.8030607@gmail.com> Wow !! $100 worth of software for $9.99 Yeah I'm in Got it this morning and downloaded both Acronis True Image, and Disk Director for $9.99 Thanks for the Tip! Ron H Davis wrote: > For those interested: > Acronis True Image 11 Home for $9.99 (One week only) Expires Sept 19. > > http://www.techsupportalert.com/acronis-true-image-11-home.htm. > > No warranties expressed or implied. Just passing the info along. > > H Davis > > Russell W. Coover wrote: From bo.maurin at ericsson.com Wed Sep 17 02:45:45 2008 From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:45:45 +0200 Subject: TSGL: SMART info In-Reply-To: References: <20080914165521.HUDR10008.aarprv04.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48CD4A21.6070101@gmail.com><20080914191531.NVCH29012.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EE6ADAF@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <06FF74A28CE65745B4554454DA4B6D5EEE12D7@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se> Thanks Russ, I'll give it a try. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Russell W. Coover Sent: den 16 september 2008 23:57 To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' Subject: Re: TSGL: SMART info Have you tried SIW? http://www.gtopala.com/ It is excellent. It reports the temperature of my hard drive is presently 31 degrees C or 87 degrees F (actually 31 C = 87.8 F, so maybe it is slightly lower than 31 C) Sudden idea ... the report was on a Hard Drive connected to the computer through an IDE controller. Perhaps your computer has a SATA drive and maybe, just maybe SATA drives are not listed? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Bo Maurin Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 3:29 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: SMART info With one of my computers I can not see the hard disc temperature using any sw. I tried with DTemp, SiSoftware sandra, SpeedFan etc I don't think there is anything wrong with the applications but rather that SMART is not enabled. I could not see any option to enable SMART in BIOS (the OEM BIOS is VERY limited in terms of options). Is there anywhere in Windows I can enable SMART? Using Vista Home with SP1 _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From jonpan at onlinehome.de Wed Sep 17 04:34:34 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:34:34 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> <48D0676D.7000509@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1106ECA3103B46BBBD48686B2C262912@johnsp2> Quick tip to Tilmann - I just got this through H's link Wed. morning 10.00 Uhr for under 9 EUR. PCgo has version 8 for free on its CD this month, but it won't burn to DVD. The upgrade to version 11 costs ca. 30 EUR, so this is good opportunity. Thanks, H. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: H Davis To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 4:11 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll For those interested: Acronis True Image 11 Home for $9.99 (One week only) Expires Sept 19. http://www.techsupportalert.com/acronis-true-image-11-home.htm. No warranties expressed or implied. Just passing the info along. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > Every single day! (Acronis True Image, done automatically with no input from > me except for the original setup) > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:33 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Wed Sep 17 07:53:32 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:32 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC><48D0676D.7000509@gmail.com> <1106ECA3103B46BBBD48686B2C262912@johnsp2> Message-ID: <09a601c918bc$571a9d10$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi John, amazon.de has ver.11 GER for about 21 Euro. The official reduced offer they had announced for the German version isn't really a bargain if you ask me http://www.acronis.de/pr/2008/08/pr08-07-de.html - no idea if it's still being offered. ... I'll stick with my version 10 True Image, which works fine here. Thanks Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > Quick tip to Tilmann - I just got this through H's link Wed. morning 10.00 > Uhr for under 9 EUR. PCgo has version 8 for free on its CD this month, but > it won't burn to DVD. The upgrade to version 11 costs ca. 30 EUR, so this > is good opportunity. > Thanks, H. > > John > Od/G From johnmount6 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 17 09:07:45 2008 From: johnmount6 at hotmail.com (john mount) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:07:45 +0800 Subject: TSGL: Flashgot Message-ID: Thanks Tilman for your quick reply. Yes have tried Tools/Flashgot. As for Cntrl+Shift+A, nothing happens on FireFox start page. Any further suggestions will be appreciaed. John _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From edlynn at usa.com Wed Sep 17 11:35:16 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:35:16 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll References: <3DA4386993DC4E918DDC8F9F55A50688@OwnersPC> Message-ID: <003f01c918da$ff3c2a40$2f01a8c0@mine> I, too, use Acronis 10 ffor full image and periodic incrementals, depending upon important activities. Photos get backed up onto DVDs, once uploaded from camera to HDD. After about 6 incrementals, I do a full image and start over. No mirrors, but a little smoke:) ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell W. Coover" To: "'Tech Support Guy Mailing List'" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > Every single day! (Acronis True Image, done automatically with no input > from > me except for the original setup) > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Ian Ramsey-Planck > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:33 PM > To: TSGL > Subject: TSGL: Backing up documents poll > > Hey, > > A question i'm going around asking a few people, lately at work i've been > boggled by just how few people bring in their machines and don't have a > back-up themselves..... especially business folks. This also helps with > something i'm writing up for a class. > > So by a show of emails how many of you would say you back-up your > documents > on a regular basis? once a month? once a year? never? your choice how > often... just wondering. > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > From jonpan at onlinehome.de Wed Sep 17 12:11:39 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:11:39 +0200 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron><001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2><68ADE5C76FB2485F955B08371C94D9D6@johnsp2> Message-ID: <6565DC8CE2C845F2B1550ADDB944BE8B@johnsp2> Hi Russ, Unfortunately, the NUMPROC-change made no difference I can tell. Nevertheless, everything is still working well, even after SP3, so... It is, however, supposed to help Vista boot faster. I shall not be trying that for a long time. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell W. Coover To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core John, Interesting! Did the change make any differences? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of jonpan Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:41 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core Later: I was able to change the number of processors to 2 by opening boot.ini with wordpad from C:\ It was then set at two in the advanced settings from msconfig. Problem solved.. Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From sam at pooterman.co.uk Wed Sep 17 14:30:32 2008 From: sam at pooterman.co.uk (Sam Mawby) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:30:32 +0100 Subject: TSGL: (no subject) Message-ID: From sam at pooterman.co.uk Wed Sep 17 14:49:47 2008 From: sam at pooterman.co.uk (Sam Mawby) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:49:47 +0100 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled Message-ID: Hi guys I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection menu appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the laptop. Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the problem persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. Any ideas anyone? Kind regards Sam Mawby From jonpan at onlinehome.de Wed Sep 17 15:36:47 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:36:47 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled References: Message-ID: <6B29A3FDCB3E4658A55EB266BC1333BA@johnsp2> If you can open it, take a look at Task Manager (control alt delete) under Processes to see if you can see what is using all the CPU cycles. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Mawby To: list at tsgserver.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled Hi guys I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection menu appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the laptop. Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the problem persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. Any ideas anyone? Kind regards Sam Mawby _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Wed Sep 17 20:22:16 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:22:16 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Flashgot References: Message-ID: <0a7201c91924$9f55d7d0$0201a8c0@til4200> John, > Yes have tried Tools/Flashgot. ... It might help to exactly find out what's gone wrong and where, step by step: As H Davis's improved and more detailed version describes, it's about selecting & using menu options: 1. With your left mouse button in the top menu line you click on Tools, this way opening the Tools menu 2. under the options in this menu you left-click 'Add-ons', 3. On the new menu/list that opens you click at 'Extensions' , which should show all extensions you ever added to your Firefox. Especially you should find 'FlashGot' if you installed it earlier 4. You select it with a mouseclick, and 5. finally you select 'Uninstall' from the options (not sure whether there's also an option 'deactivate'...) Please try to follow these steps and report back where exactly you don't succeed, and what exactly happens at that moment. > As for Cntrl+Shift+A, nothing happens on FireFox start page. Ok, if the keys don't work, for the time being you better use your mouse. Maybe the ctrl+shift+A hotkey is somehow in use by another application already. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "john mount" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Flashgot > > Thanks Tilman for your quick reply. > Yes have tried Tools/Flashgot. > As for Cntrl+Shift+A, nothing happens on FireFox start page. > Any further suggestions will be appreciaed. > John From coover at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 17 21:41:51 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:41:51 -0700 Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core In-Reply-To: <6565DC8CE2C845F2B1550ADDB944BE8B@johnsp2> References: <000601c91696$076ae040$2202a8c0@johnsp2><5608D08CF60A45F299BEACA89CD02DF4@micron><001d01c916fa$fdce2370$2202a8c0@johnsp2><68ADE5C76FB2485F955B08371C94D9D6@johnsp2> <6565DC8CE2C845F2B1550ADDB944BE8B@johnsp2> Message-ID: Thanks, John. As my only XP machine is a Pentium III M, I couldn't try this tweak there, so I decided to try this on a Vista Core Duo Laptop. Msconfig > Boot Tab > Advanced Options ... Place check mark next to "Number of Processors" > Scroll from 1 to 2 > OK > Apply > Reboot. Boot does seem marginally faster. I say marginally because I am not certain. Your mileage may vary. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of jonpan Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:12 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core Hi Russ, Unfortunately, the NUMPROC-change made no difference I can tell. Nevertheless, everything is still working well, even after SP3, so... It is, however, supposed to help Vista boot faster. I shall not be trying that for a long time. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Russell W. Coover To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:18 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core John, Interesting! Did the change make any differences? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of jonpan Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:41 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core Later: I was able to change the number of processors to 2 by opening boot.ini with wordpad from C:\ It was then set at two in the advanced settings from msconfig. Problem solved.. Cheers, John ----- Original Message ----- From: A Hasanat Khan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core May be because mine is SP3. As regards the warning Microsoft says not to change anything in boot.ini without the support of a Microsoft support professional. Presumably this is part of boot.ini tab. However, I am going to try any way. Hasanat ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: 15/09/2008 12:19 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > Thanks, Hasanat. I reckon it shows 1 by default and you can change it to 2 > by choice. Mine, however, only shows 1 despite having dual core. I wonder > what the big warning is? > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A Hasanat Khan > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 6:53 AM > Subject: TSGL: {Disarmed} Re: XP and dual core > > > Just tried mine. It does show 1 or 2. I have a dual core therefore it > should have shown 2. I dare not tick it, as there is a big warning. I have > XP SP3. > > Hasanat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonpan" > To: "ListTSG" > Sent: 15/09/2008 12:16 AM > Subject: TSGL: XP and dual core > > >> Hi all, >> >> Under XP SP2, msconfig> NUMPROC= >> If I tick the box the number 1 appears, with no option for changing to 2 >> for a dual-core processor. >> >> Any info on this? Can you take advantage of the dual-core for shorter >> boot >> times? Does SP3 allow the change? >> >> All the best, >> >> John >> >> Od/G >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> -- >> This message has been scanned for viruses and >> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >> believed to be clean. >> >> >> > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 17 21:52:41 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:52:41 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like a memory problem. It could be caused by one program installed on your computer, or it could be caused by a faulty memory stick. But since it isn't happening in safe mode, it's probably a program. How much memory does your computer have and what do you have set to open when you start the computer? As John suggested, if you can get into the task manager, do so and check each programs memory use. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Sam Mawby Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50 AM To: list at tsgserver.com Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled Hi guys I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection menu appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the laptop. Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the problem persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. Any ideas anyone? Kind regards Sam Mawby _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From justin at whisperer.com.au Thu Sep 18 04:39:31 2008 From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:39:31 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2852b8d40809180139s33ce64d3o51e6f99b48638d3b@mail.gmail.com> It's a RAM problem, Try reseating the RAM, you can test the RAM with microsoft's free RAM tester If it happens while still showing BIOS information, then it's got nothing to do with the programs installed on the computer. Regards, Justin 2008/9/18 Russell W. Coover > Sounds like a memory problem. It could be caused by one program installed > on > your computer, or it could be caused by a faulty memory stick. But since it > isn't happening in safe mode, it's probably a program. How much memory does > your computer have and what do you have set to open when you start the > computer? As John suggested, if you can get into the task manager, do so > and > check each programs memory use. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Sam Mawby > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50 AM > To: list at tsgserver.com > Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled > > Hi guys > I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. > > When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection > menu > appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for > every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly > at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to > shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in > having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the > laptop. > > Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the problem > persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop > is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. > Any ideas anyone? > > Kind regards > Sam Mawby > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) From jonpan at onlinehome.de Thu Sep 18 06:14:25 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:14:25 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled References: <2852b8d40809180139s33ce64d3o51e6f99b48638d3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Justin, Just for my information, does that mean that RAM is not involved, or involved differently in Safe Mode operation and/or with USB drivers? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: The Computer Whisperer To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:39 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Bamboozled It's a RAM problem, Try reseating the RAM, you can test the RAM with microsoft's free RAM tester If it happens while still showing BIOS information, then it's got nothing to do with the programs installed on the computer. Regards, Justin 2008/9/18 Russell W. Coover > Sounds like a memory problem. It could be caused by one program installed > on > your computer, or it could be caused by a faulty memory stick. But since it > isn't happening in safe mode, it's probably a program. How much memory does > your computer have and what do you have set to open when you start the > computer? As John suggested, if you can get into the task manager, do so > and > check each programs memory use. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Sam Mawby > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50 AM > To: list at tsgserver.com > Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled > > Hi guys > I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. > > When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection > menu > appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for > every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly > at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to > shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in > having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the > laptop. > > Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the problem > persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop > is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. > Any ideas anyone? > > Kind regards > Sam Mawby > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From justin at whisperer.com.au Thu Sep 18 06:56:44 2008 From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:56:44 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled In-Reply-To: References: <2852b8d40809180139s33ce64d3o51e6f99b48638d3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2852b8d40809180356x43bd9aack192424916431b303@mail.gmail.com> Sorry John, I misinterpreted. Having read what you said, it could just as well be your Hard Drive, could be a number of things, sorry to disillusion you. Acer's are quite quirky. How about this... It could be a faulty PS/2 mouse, do you have a different PS2 Mouse to try? 2008/9/18 jonpan > Justin, > > Just for my information, does that mean that RAM is not involved, or > involved differently in Safe Mode operation and/or with USB drivers? > > John > Od/G > ----- Original Message ----- > From: The Computer Whisperer > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Bamboozled > > > It's a RAM problem, Try reseating the RAM, you can test the RAM with > microsoft's free RAM tester > > If it happens while still showing BIOS information, then it's got nothing > to > do with the programs installed on the computer. > > Regards, > > Justin > > > > 2008/9/18 Russell W. Coover > > > Sounds like a memory problem. It could be caused by one program installed > > on > > your computer, or it could be caused by a faulty memory stick. But since > it > > isn't happening in safe mode, it's probably a program. How much memory > does > > your computer have and what do you have set to open when you start the > > computer? As John suggested, if you can get into the task manager, do so > > and > > check each programs memory use. > > > > Russ Coover > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > > Behalf Of Sam Mawby > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50 AM > > To: list at tsgserver.com > > Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled > > > > Hi guys > > I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. > > > > When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection > > menu > > appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for > > every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes > intermittantly > > at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to > > shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in > > having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the > > laptop. > > > > Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the > problem > > persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the > laptop > > is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. > > Any ideas anyone? > > > > Kind regards > > Sam Mawby > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > http://www.whisperer.com.au > > The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. > > Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. > > Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 > Mobile 0406 467 701 > > Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) From deepend at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 18 12:10:44 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:10:44 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080919014833.00c4f828@mail.tpg.com.au> Sam wrote: >when the laptop >is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally.>> Presumably that means no freezes or shutdown problems when in Safe Mode. That points to either the mouse or keyboard driver being corrupted, or conflicting with some other hardware driver. See if you can download a new keyboard/mouse driver for your model---or reinstall from the motherboard CD. First, try uninstalling all external hardware drivers such as printers, scanners, etc. Reboot and see if there is still a problem. Clearly, something problematic is loading with normal XP that's not loading in Safe Mode. Try running Msconfig, or any Startup Manager, and kill all startups. Reboot and see if that makes a difference. If so, it's a process of elimination and intuition to identify the culprit/s. Be aware that it may not just be one item--sometimes two or more applications that are perfectly OK by themselves will conflict when running together, eg by trying to use the same memory address (XP is supposed to prevent this, but strange things can still happen with badly-written drivers). It's possible that there could be an overheating problem--Safe Mode puts less load on the CPU so may keep it just under a marginal overheating figure. Try working with something graphically intensive in Safe Mode and see whether it will lock up. The fact that the laptop keyboard works fine in Safe Mode would seem to eliminate any mobo or other hardware faults---though RAM can always be a prime suspect in these cases. Don Penlington Don Penlington From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland. Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website: http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html From deepend at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 18 12:14:53 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:14:53 +1000 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled--PS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080919021146.00c4e540@mail.tpg.com.au> Sam wrote: >Windows has been reinstalled afresh>> I assume you reformatted the hard drive OS partition before reinstalling. Simply doing a repair reinstall "over the top" is often not sufficient to fix fundamental problems. Don Penlington From rayo at compusmart.ab.ca Thu Sep 18 13:27:09 2008 From: rayo at compusmart.ab.ca (rayo) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:27:09 -0600 Subject: TSGL: Lap top not seeing Network printer Message-ID: Hey all I am trying to help a friend get her printer to work.. It is an older HP 4 + with a Jet Direct Card in it. She has a Toshiba Lap top.. Less than a year old (has VISTA home premium) I know that the jet direct card on the printer is working because the printout from it lists it's IP address and gateway addresses I am trying to get the laptop to print to the printer through a wireless router.. ( as a host,, it has its own IP address) I have tried letting the laptop check for available printers with all the Proper cables hooked up (printer to the router) It cannot find the printer... I manually tried setting up the printer (using its IP address) with and without the Host IP address. With the host IP address the laptop asks for the appropriate printer drivers and I install them and ask for a print test page.... Nothing happens. I am not sure if I am able to "ping" the printer IP address.. if so... how do I do this.. (not that literate on PC's but know a few things and can follow directions) any help would be appreciated.. Thanks in advance Ray From tbrandl2 at chello.at Thu Sep 18 14:20:49 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:20:49 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled References: Message-ID: <0c6501c919bb$502ff9f0$0201a8c0@til4200> Sam, question is, what did you do before this started, or what did your machine do on it's own, like, say, fetching an automated software update. Just read this in Windows secrets (paid content): "Sometimes, your security app is the problem In the past two weeks, two antivirus vendors have announced flawed updates. Refreshes of two of my favorite security programs - NOD32 from Eset and Trend Micro's AntiVirus - caused problems ..." Do you run any of these applications? Generally, you could deactivate most of what's running on your machine that isn't part of the basic system. If the problem goes away, restart each of them one at a time, till you get that same error. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Mawby" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: TSGL: Bamboozled > Hi guys > I have an Acer Aspire 3000 laptop with a problem that has me stumped. > > When booting up normally into Windows XP, as soon as the user selection > menu > appears, the mousepad stops working and the keyboard takes 3 seconds for > every keypress to register. In addition, the laptop freezes intermittantly > at random times and always freezes when the Turn Off button is clicked to > shutdown. The on/off button stops working at this point which results in > having to disconnect the power cord and battery in order to shutdown the > laptop. > > Windows has been reinstalled afresh and all drivers updated but the > problem > persists. However, a USB keyboard and mouse work fine, and when the laptop > is booted into SafeMode, everything functions normally. > Any ideas anyone? > > Kind regards > Sam Mawby From edlynn at usa.com Thu Sep 18 14:35:22 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:35:22 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Change format of FTP file rec'd Message-ID: <000901c919bd$50fe5b90$2f01a8c0@mine> Hi all - I downloaded a FTP of a 100 MB family slide show. When I burned it to a CD-R, it was OK on PC monitor, but was rejected by my HDTV Philips player as a non acceptable format. I retried on a burned DVD-R, but had the same result. The file has an extension of .WMV. I use Nero 7 Ultra, but do not know how to change the format, or to what format would be acceptable to show it on my HDTV, or regular TV? I suspect that I need to reburn as a movie format, but which one? And how do I do that? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. ED From coover at fastmail.fm Thu Sep 18 15:25:06 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:25:06 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Change format of FTP file rec'd In-Reply-To: <000901c919bd$50fe5b90$2f01a8c0@mine> References: <000901c919bd$50fe5b90$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: Ed, Do you have the Owners Manual for the Phillips Player? It will tell you what types of files it will play. If you don't have the manual, you can probably download it from those Frenchy people (that is not an insult - if you really want to insult the French, there are better ways to do it) at Phillips. Of course, we know that the player will play DVDs in the normal DVD movie format. And we know that Nero 7 Ultra will burn to that format. She question becomes ... how to change the present format (whatever it is - you did not specify) to the movie format? So, we need to know two things ... 1.) What format is the file presently in? and 2.) What format will your player play? Russ Coover (I love Paris in the Spring time, I love Paris in the fall, I love Paris in the Summer, when it sizzles, I love Paris in the Winter, when it drizzles) -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of EdlynnUSA Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:35 AM To: TechSupportGuys Subject: TSGL: Change format of FTP file rec'd Hi all - I downloaded a FTP of a 100 MB family slide show. When I burned it to a CD-R, it was OK on PC monitor, but was rejected by my HDTV Philips player as a non acceptable format. I retried on a burned DVD-R, but had the same result. The file has an extension of .WMV. I use Nero 7 Ultra, but do not know how to change the format, or to what format would be acceptable to show it on my HDTV, or regular TV? I suspect that I need to reburn as a movie format, but which one? And how do I do that? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. ED _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From ian at iarp.ca Thu Sep 18 16:14:37 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:14:37 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Change format of FTP file rec'd In-Reply-To: <000901c919bd$50fe5b90$2f01a8c0@mine> References: <000901c919bd$50fe5b90$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: Use Nero Express(most likely in a hidden menu) to correctly burn the wmv to dvd format. That should do it fine. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:35 PM, EdlynnUSA wrote: > Hi all - > > I downloaded a FTP of a 100 MB family slide show. When I burned it to a > CD-R, it was OK on PC monitor, but was rejected by my HDTV Philips player > as a non acceptable format. I retried on a burned DVD-R, but had the same > result. > > The file has an extension of .WMV. > > I use Nero 7 Ultra, but do not know how to change the format, or to what > format would be acceptable to show it on my HDTV, or regular TV? > > I suspect that I need to reburn as a movie format, but which one? And how > do > I do that? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. > > ED > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From Computerfee at t-online.de Fri Sep 19 06:00:16 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:00:16 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Message-ID: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> Hello everybody! I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it will be finished. Have a nice weekend Heidi From tbrandl2 at chello.at Fri Sep 19 08:47:01 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:47:01 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> Message-ID: <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> Heidi, http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm has 10 different services ... hope this helps Sch?ne Gr?sse Tilman from Vienna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heidi Schroeder" To: "TSGL" Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > Hello everybody! > > I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know > it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today > wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use > a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, > telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually > does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this > problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder > if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a > more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me > like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The > new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the > e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own > spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number > of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it > will be finished. > > Have a nice weekend > > Heidi From johnmount6 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 19 10:15:04 2008 From: johnmount6 at hotmail.com (john mount) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:15:04 +0800 Subject: TSGL: flashgot Message-ID: Thanks Tilman, I did all that with Tools the first time, no sign of FlashGot, but it does highlight my Free Download Manager,( to uninstall, or disable), as well as my Yahoo Photo Uploader. The reason I want to uninstall FlashGot is because it interferes with the aformentioned programs. I am wondering if it was installed with FF/3. as the problem only seems to have started since then. John. _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602 From jonpan at onlinehome.de Fri Sep 19 11:01:35 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:01:35 +0200 Subject: TSGL: flashgot References: Message-ID: <0B4B5FDDF6DB41058BBE27D27FC85556@johnsp2> FlashGot is still available for FF3, updated 8. Sept. Have you tried searching for it under all addons, adding it to FF and then uninstalling it? BTW. it wasn't installed with my FF3... John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: john mount To: list at tsgserver.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: flashgot Thanks Tilman, I did all that with Tools the first time, no sign of FlashGot, but it does highlight my Free Download Manager,( to uninstall, or disable), as well as my Yahoo Photo Uploader. The reason I want to uninstall FlashGot is because it interferes with the aformentioned programs. I am wondering if it was installed with FF/3. as the problem only seems to have started since then. John. _________________________________________________________________ Win a Hotmail Go-Kart to race at Bathurst. Enter today! http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/compIntro.aspx?compId=4602 _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From jonpan at onlinehome.de Fri Sep 19 12:42:21 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:42:21 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 tips Message-ID: Hi all, Tab Mix Plus Beta Version is stable and working well for me. If anybody else likes Navigational Sounds and is annoyed by the pop-up error window, it is possible to get rid of it - please ask. John Od/G From hdavis1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 17:06:15 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:06:15 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services In-Reply-To: <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> Heidi, You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of where you used it. E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll never see them again. You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to ignore this syntax. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Heidi, > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > has 10 different services ... > > hope this helps > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > Tilman from Vienna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > To: "TSGL" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > >> Hello everybody! >> >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >> will be finished. >> >> Have a nice weekend >> >> Heidi >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From tbrandl2 at chello.at Fri Sep 19 19:17:03 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 01:17:03 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> Message-ID: <0f6001c91aad$d8619cf0$0201a8c0@til4200> Heidi, noch eine Idee: Es gibt auch deutsche Services daf?r. Versuche http://www.google.at/search?q=email+wegwerfadressen Und dann noch http://www.trash-mail.com/index.php Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heidi Schroeder" To: "TSGL" Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > Hello everybody! > > I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know > it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today > wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use > a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, > telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually > does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this > problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder > if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a > more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me > like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The > new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the > e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own > spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number > of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it > will be finished. > > Have a nice weekend > > Heidi From tbrandl2 at chello.at Fri Sep 19 20:03:41 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:03:41 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Throwaway-e mail services in general References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC><0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0f7701c91ab5$18af1560$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi, could you please explain with a little bit more detail how the junk+contest at gmail.com type of address works? I haven't found information on this anywhere ... I've been trying the 'Temporary email address addon' for FF3 recently, but noticed the site was down and thus the service not working. What are you guys using instead? This kind of solution would've been more handy than creating your own disposable address by means of a +designator. Also: Do are these designators supposed to work with any type of address/domain? For instance on my own domain, where I could create an unlimited number of emails. Thanks Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Davis" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:06 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Heidi, You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of where you used it. E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll never see them again. You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to ignore this syntax. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Heidi, > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > has 10 different services ... > > hope this helps > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > Tilman from Vienna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > To: "TSGL" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > >> Hello everybody! >> >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so >> know >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to >> use >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I >> wonder >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my >> own >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >> will be finished. >> >> Have a nice weekend >> >> Heidi >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Fri Sep 19 20:08:59 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:08:59 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? Message-ID: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> Hello, I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've gathered over time. Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for programs out there? Any suggestions...? I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I don't understand exactly how to use this option). Any insight + tips would be appreciated Tilman From ian at iarp.ca Fri Sep 19 20:16:44 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:16:44 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Throwaway-e mail services in general In-Reply-To: <0f7701c91ab5$18af1560$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <0f7701c91ab5$18af1560$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: No, it;s a gmail only feature. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=12096 thats the only info gmail offers. Then using filters, filter into other labels. Personally i use www.mailinator.com because you can use anything without setting anything up.... such as if i gave you the address ' asdawdwda at mailinator.com' then go to mailinator, type in asdawdwda and it'll show any emails to that address. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Tilman Brandl wrote: > Hi, > > could you please explain with a little bit more detail how the > junk+contest at gmail.com type of address works? I > haven't found information on > this anywhere ... > > I've been trying the 'Temporary email address addon' for FF3 recently, but > noticed the site was down and thus the service not working. What are you > guys using instead? > > This kind of solution would've been more handy than creating your own > disposable address by means of a +designator. Also: Do are these > designators > supposed to work with any type of address/domain? For instance on my own > domain, where I could create an unlimited number of emails. > > Thanks > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H Davis" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 11:06 PM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > Heidi, > > You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say > junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something > or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com > where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of > where you used it. > > E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. > If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use > a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll > never see them again. > > You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. > > I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet > so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. > There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to > ignore this syntax. > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: > > Heidi, > > > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > > > has 10 different services ... > > > > hope this helps > > > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > > Tilman from Vienna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > > To: "TSGL" > > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > > > > > >> Hello everybody! > >> > >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so > >> know > >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today > >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to > >> use > >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, > >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually > >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this > >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I > >> wonder > >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with > a > >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me > >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The > >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in > the > >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my > >> own > >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the > number > >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then > it > >> will be finished. > >> > >> Have a nice weekend > >> > >> Heidi > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From rayo at compusmart.ab.ca Fri Sep 19 21:02:44 2008 From: rayo at compusmart.ab.ca (rayo) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:02:44 -0600 Subject: TSGL: Lap top not seeing Network printer Message-ID: Hey all I am trying to help a friend get her printer to work.. It is an older HP 4 + with a Jet Direct Card in it. She has a Toshiba Lap top.. Less than a year old (has VISTA home premium) I know that the jet direct card on the printer is working because the printout from it lists it's IP address and gateway addresses I am trying to get the laptop to print to the printer through a wireless router.. ( as a host,, it has its own IP address) I have tried letting the laptop check for available printers with all the Proper cables hooked up (printer to the router) It cannot find the printer... I manually tried setting up the printer (using its IP address) with and without the Host IP address. With the host IP address the laptop asks for the appropriate printer drivers and I install them and ask for a print test page.... Nothing happens. I am not sure if I am able to "ping" the printer IP address.. if so... how do I do this.. (not that literate on PC's but know a few things and can follow directions) any help would be appreciated.. Thanks in advance Ray From michaelsweeden at comcast.net Fri Sep 19 21:34:22 2008 From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:34:22 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <000601c91ac1$02f8f450$0100000a@michael> I've used Roboform for years and I love it. You can download a free version to check it out. The full version runs about $30, but if you Google for coupons you can find 20% off fairly easily, making it about $24, and in my opinion, it's well worth it. It saves a LOT of time for me with passwords and completing forms, to me it is very easy to learn, and it is secure. Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Tilman Brandl Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:09 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? Hello, I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've gathered over time. Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for programs out there? Any suggestions...? I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I don't understand exactly how to use this option). Any insight + tips would be appreciated Tilman _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Fri Sep 19 22:45:22 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:45:22 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services In-Reply-To: <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC><0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> I've just sent test emails to myself using the "+" (and in these cases, the number "1") after the user name to addresses at gmail.com, verizon.com, and fastmail.fm. All three emails were delivered to me, so it appears that the "+" works with, at least these three email domains. I also have addresses with yahoo and hotmail, so I will try those, too. If they do not work, I shall report that to the group. Thanks H. You, sir, have performed a service to the group. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:06 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Heidi, You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of where you used it. E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll never see them again. You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to ignore this syntax. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Heidi, > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > has 10 different services ... > > hope this helps > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > Tilman from Vienna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > To: "TSGL" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > >> Hello everybody! >> >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >> will be finished. >> >> Have a nice weekend >> >> Heidi >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Fri Sep 19 22:50:25 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:50:25 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Adding "+" to an email address In-Reply-To: <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC><0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200><48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <986FBA58E849424EAA2B914735ED09A1@AcerLaptop> The "+" did NOT work with a Yahoo address and a Hotmail address. So far, we know it does work with Gmail, Verizon, and Fastmail. Any others? Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Russell W. Coover Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 7:45 PM To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services I've just sent test emails to myself using the "+" (and in these cases, the number "1") after the user name to addresses at gmail.com, verizon.com, and fastmail.fm. All three emails were delivered to me, so it appears that the "+" works with, at least these three email domains. I also have addresses with yahoo and hotmail, so I will try those, too. If they do not work, I shall report that to the group. Thanks H. You, sir, have performed a service to the group. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:06 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Heidi, You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of where you used it. E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll never see them again. You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to ignore this syntax. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Heidi, > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > has 10 different services ... > > hope this helps > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > Tilman from Vienna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > To: "TSGL" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > >> Hello everybody! >> >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >> will be finished. >> >> Have a nice weekend >> >> Heidi >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From coover at fastmail.fm Fri Sep 19 23:06:50 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:06:50 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Lap top not seeing Network printer In-Reply-To: <20080920010345.270CA1A2B88@mx3.messagingengine.com> References: <20080920010345.270CA1A2B88@mx3.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: Rayo, I'm not sure where to go, here, but Microsoft purposely built the Vista OS, for security concerns, to be difficult to set up on a network, particularly where something on that network is not Vista (like your printer). Once set up, the user is safer than with previous OSes. Have you checked to see if the printer is set in the same Workgroup as the computer? Have you checked the Network and Sharing Center to see how it is set up in the Sharing and Discovery section? Those are at least two of the things you need to check. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of rayo Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 6:03 PM To: list at tsgserver.com Subject: TSGL: Lap top not seeing Network printer Hey all I am trying to help a friend get her printer to work.. It is an older HP 4 + with a Jet Direct Card in it. She has a Toshiba Lap top.. Less than a year old (has VISTA home premium) I know that the jet direct card on the printer is working because the printout from it lists it's IP address and gateway addresses I am trying to get the laptop to print to the printer through a wireless router.. ( as a host,, it has its own IP address) I have tried letting the laptop check for available printers with all the Proper cables hooked up (printer to the router) It cannot find the printer... I manually tried setting up the printer (using its IP address) with and without the Host IP address. With the host IP address the laptop asks for the appropriate printer drivers and I install them and ask for a print test page.... Nothing happens. I am not sure if I am able to "ping" the printer IP address.. if so... how do I do this.. (not that literate on PC's but know a few things and can follow directions) any help would be appreciated.. Thanks in advance Ray _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 19 23:47:07 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 23:47:07 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services In-Reply-To: <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC><0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <48D4723B.9050805@gmail.com> Russ, I thought this was fairly common knowledge among gmail-ers. Heidi's problem still remains though, in that, some of the web sites you might submit the address to will not accept the unconventional format. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > I've just sent test emails to myself using the "+" (and in these cases, the > number "1") after the user name to addresses at gmail.com, verizon.com, and > fastmail.fm. All three emails were delivered to me, so it appears that the > "+" works with, at least these three email domains. I also have addresses > with yahoo and hotmail, so I will try those, too. If they do not work, I > shall report that to the group. > > Thanks H. You, sir, have performed a service to the group. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:06 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > Heidi, > > You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say > junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something > or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com > where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of > where you used it. > > E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. > If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use > a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll > never see them again. > > You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. > > I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet > so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. > There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to > ignore this syntax. > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: > >> Heidi, >> >> http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm >> >> has 10 different services ... >> >> hope this helps >> >> Sch?ne Gr?sse >> Tilman from Vienna >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Heidi Schroeder" >> To: "TSGL" >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM >> Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services >> >> >> >> >>> Hello everybody! >>> >>> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so >>> > know > >>> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >>> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to >>> > use > >>> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >>> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >>> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >>> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I >>> > wonder > >>> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >>> > > >>> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >>> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >>> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >>> > > >>> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my >>> > own > >>> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >>> > > >>> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >>> > > >>> will be finished. >>> >>> Have a nice weekend >>> >>> Heidi >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From Computerfee at t-online.de Sat Sep 20 00:10:22 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:10:22 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services In-Reply-To: <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC><0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200><48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <8654749F47FF4F96827B4593A9050987@HeidisPC> Thanks everybody for the input on my e-mail address question. Remember I read about that +thing with Google but never kept in mind how it worked, so it would be an option now as well, but it seems what I like best is the Mailinator Ian is using. So will try that out first to see, if these possible spammers who do not want to accept a spamgourmet address for their sweepstakes will accept those. Have a great weekend Heidi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell W. Coover" To: "'Tech Support Guy Mailing List'" Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services I've just sent test emails to myself using the "+" (and in these cases, the number "1") after the user name to addresses at gmail.com, verizon.com, and fastmail.fm. All three emails were delivered to me, so it appears that the "+" works with, at least these three email domains. I also have addresses with yahoo and hotmail, so I will try those, too. If they do not work, I shall report that to the group. Thanks H. You, sir, have performed a service to the group. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:06 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Heidi, You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of where you used it. E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll never see them again. You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to ignore this syntax. H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Heidi, > > http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm > > has 10 different services ... > > hope this helps > > Sch?ne Gr?sse > Tilman from Vienna > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heidi Schroeder" > To: "TSGL" > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM > Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > > >> Hello everybody! >> >> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so know >> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to use >> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I wonder >> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my own >> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >> will be finished. >> >> Have a nice weekend >> >> Heidi / From rbrunton at accesswave.ca Sat Sep 20 06:52:08 2008 From: rbrunton at accesswave.ca (Ron Brunton) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:52:08 -0300 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <000601c91ac1$02f8f450$0100000a@michael> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> <000601c91ac1$02f8f450$0100000a@michael> Message-ID: <001201c91b0e$ed8f1880$c8ad4980$@ca> I'll echo Michael's comments about Roboform. I have also used it for years and it's an important addition to my systems. I don't have it installed on my work computer and many times I've definitely noticed its absence. I also use the paid/full version. I also use PList, a password manager I wrote for the occasions when Roboform won't insert a password or, as in the case of GoToMyPC, there are really two passwords. (PList is available for free at www.rbrunton.ca/BruntonSoft) Ron -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Michael Sweeden Sent: September-19-08 10:34 PM To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' Subject: Re: TSGL: Which Password Manager? I've used Roboform for years and I love it. You can download a free version to check it out. The full version runs about $30, but if you Google for coupons you can find 20% off fairly easily, making it about $24, and in my opinion, it's well worth it. It saves a LOT of time for me with passwords and completing forms, to me it is very easy to learn, and it is secure. Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Tilman Brandl Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:09 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? Hello, I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've gathered over time. Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for programs out there? Any suggestions...? I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I don't understand exactly how to use this option). Any insight + tips would be appreciated Tilman _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rbrunton at accesswave.ca Sat Sep 20 06:54:53 2008 From: rbrunton at accesswave.ca (Ron Brunton) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:54:53 -0300 Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services In-Reply-To: <48D4723B.9050805@gmail.com> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> <48D4723B.9050805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001301c91b0f$50385be0$f0a913a0$@ca> This is new to me as well - falls into the "something new every day" category. I think it'll come in handy. Ron -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: September-20-08 12:47 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services Russ, I thought this was fairly common knowledge among gmail-ers. Heidi's problem still remains though, in that, some of the web sites you might submit the address to will not accept the unconventional format. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > I've just sent test emails to myself using the "+" (and in these cases, the > number "1") after the user name to addresses at gmail.com, verizon.com, and > fastmail.fm. All three emails were delivered to me, so it appears that the > "+" works with, at least these three email domains. I also have addresses > with yahoo and hotmail, so I will try those, too. If they do not work, I > shall report that to the group. > > Thanks H. You, sir, have performed a service to the group. > > Russ Coover > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 2:06 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services > > Heidi, > > You can create a gmail account just for throwaway addresses; say > junk at gmail.com. When you want to have a throw away address for something > or an address that you'll use a few times use junk+contest at gmail.com > where "contest" is a designation you make up so you can keep track of > where you used it. > > E-mails sent to junk+contest will come to your junk at gmail.com account. > If they are relevant you deal with them but when the spam starts you use > a filter to delete those with an address containing "contest" and you'll > never see them again. > > You can create an unlimited number of throw away addresses. > > I don't know what the problem was with addresses created by spamgourmet > so the "+" in the middle of these addresses might pose the same problem. > There are an awful lot of gmail accounts though, so it would be hard to > ignore this syntax. > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: > >> Heidi, >> >> http://email.about.com/od/disposableemailservices/tp/disposable.htm >> >> has 10 different services ... >> >> hope this helps >> >> Sch?ne Gr?sse >> Tilman from Vienna >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Heidi Schroeder" >> To: "TSGL" >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:00 PM >> Subject: TSGL: Spamgourmet.com - looking for other such mail services >> >> >> >> >>> Hello everybody! >>> >>> I think, I remember someone here once asking about Spamgourmet.com so >>> > know > >>> it is known at least by one person. I have not used it often, but today >>> wanted to use it once again for an online sweepstake - did not want to >>> > use > >>> a regular address so tried a spamgourmet one and they did not accept it, >>> telling it did not look like a correct e-mail address. Well, it actually >>> does look a bit strange but that is how it works. Since I remember this >>> problem is the reason for me not using the service too often, now I >>> > wonder > >>> if there is any other similar e-mail address offer that might work with a >>> > > >>> more correct looking address but still would not cause more work for me >>> like creating new accounts every now and again with HotPop or such. The >>> new spamgourmet address I just have to think out and write it down in the >>> > > >>> e-mail field and that is all, no need to create an account first as my >>> > own > >>> spamgourmet-data are in the address as well, so I will receive the number >>> > > >>> of mails I want to get from that address to my normal account and then it >>> > > >>> will be finished. >>> >>> Have a nice weekend >>> >>> Heidi >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3457 (20080919) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From jonpan at onlinehome.de Sat Sep 20 07:31:29 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:31:29 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: Tilman, take a look at Windows Secrets , 18.Sept., number 167. There's an excellent article in that. I use Roboform and am very happy with it, once you've figured out how to overcome the various methods used to log in. Free is limited to ten entries. Gr??e John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Tilman Brandl To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:08 AM Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? Hello, I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've gathered over time. Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for programs out there? Any suggestions...? I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I don't understand exactly how to use this option). Any insight + tips would be appreciated Tilman _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From johnmount6 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 20 07:36:26 2008 From: johnmount6 at hotmail.com (john mount) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:36:26 +0800 Subject: TSGL: Flashgot Message-ID: Thanks Jonpan. That seems to have fixed it. John _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $40 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From wseehorn at earthlink.net Sat Sep 20 08:15:03 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 08:15:03 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Adding "+" to an email address In-Reply-To: <986FBA58E849424EAA2B914735ED09A1@AcerLaptop> References: <1539250ABE13420DB401D69137D2C1FD@HeidisPC> <0e0d01c91a55$d290d820$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D41447.3080905@gmail.com> <92B73CE0D0AB453B9DBD30AAC74D6306@AcerLaptop> <986FBA58E849424EAA2B914735ED09A1@AcerLaptop> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080920081422.00c39d88@pop.earthlink.net> Works with Earthlink Will At 10:50 PM 9/19/2008, you wrote: >The "+" did NOT work with a Yahoo address and a Hotmail address. > >So far, we know it does work with Gmail, Verizon, and Fastmail. Any others? > >Russ Coover > >-----Original Message----- >F From coover at fastmail.fm Sat Sep 20 13:56:37 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:56:37 -0700 Subject: TSGL: ZT Computers Message-ID: My daughter just called and told me that her "old" computer (probably from 2001 or 2002 - an early XP) just died. It blue screened and when she rebooted, she got a message that no operating system was found. I, of course, volunteered to drive over and take a look, but she told me it was time for a new computer. I still intend to take a look, but, in the mean time, I'm looking for an inexpensive new desktop to replace the broken one. Their computer is not used for gaming. It is used for email. internet, storing photos, word processing, and similar. They do not have the funds to buy anything more than a basic desktop. Checking ads at one major computer retailer, I noticed a brand I have never heard of, ZT. The ZT computers seemed to be less expensive than similarly equipped computers. For example, at the bottom, for $400, a Vista Home Premium machine with an Athlon 64x2 5200+, 2 GB memory, a 320 GB HD, a DVD writer, and more is available. For $705, you can get a Vista Home Premium with a Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU, 4 GB memory, 500 GB HD, a decent 512 MB ATI Video Card, a DVD writer and more. Anyone have any experience, good or bad with ZT machines? Your expertise will be appreciated. Russ Coover From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 21:09:54 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:09:54 -0400 Subject: TSGL: ZT Computers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <48D59EE2.5040101@gmail.com> Well Russ...... I'd look for an ice pick through its heart because I think your daughter really wants a new computer. And ideally, one dad pays for. In which case Tigerdirect.com has a lot of specials in their e-mail ads for bare bones or refurbished computers . Newegg.com too. I've had good luck with both on other purchases but have never bought a computer from them. Laptops are pretty cheap these days and when you figure in the cost of a monitor for your desktop (which the listed price usually doesn't include) they compare favorably. Here's a sampling . If space is a concern they're more convenient. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > My daughter just called and told me that her "old" computer (probably from > 2001 or 2002 - an early XP) just died. It blue screened and when she > rebooted, she got a message that no operating system was found. I, of > course, volunteered to drive over and take a look, but she told me it was > time for a new computer. I still intend to take a look, but, in the mean > time, I'm looking for an inexpensive new desktop to replace the broken one. > > > > Their computer is not used for gaming. It is used for email. internet, > storing photos, word processing, and similar. They do not have the funds to > buy anything more than a basic desktop. > > > > Checking ads at one major computer retailer, I noticed a brand I have never > heard of, ZT. The ZT computers seemed to be less expensive than similarly > equipped computers. For example, at the bottom, for $400, a Vista Home > Premium machine with an Athlon 64x2 5200+, 2 GB memory, a 320 GB HD, a DVD > writer, and more is available. For $705, you can get a Vista Home Premium > with a Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU, 4 GB memory, 500 GB HD, a decent 512 MB ATI > Video Card, a DVD writer and more. > > > > Anyone have any experience, good or bad with ZT machines? Your expertise > will be appreciated. > > > > Russ Coover > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From coover at fastmail.fm Sat Sep 20 23:17:06 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 20:17:06 -0700 Subject: TSGL: ZT Computers In-Reply-To: <48D59EE2.5040101@gmail.com> References: <48D59EE2.5040101@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, I know what my daughter meant. But I am curious about ZT. I've found a few reviews of new ones, most indicating that this US built computer, like most inexpensive computers, are somewhat mediocre, though on a dollar for value basis, they are excellent. The reviews, however, were for newly built computers, right out of the box, with no information on long term use. Will they last, or will they self destruct one day after the warrantee expires? And evidently, though I saw none in the ad, ZT builds laptops, too. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 6:10 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: ZT Computers Well Russ...... I'd look for an ice pick through its heart because I think your daughter really wants a new computer. And ideally, one dad pays for. In which case Tigerdirect.com has a lot of specials in their e-mail ads for bare bones or refurbished computers . Newegg.com too. I've had good luck with both on other purchases but have never bought a computer from them. Laptops are pretty cheap these days and when you figure in the cost of a monitor for your desktop (which the listed price usually doesn't include) they compare favorably. Here's a sampling . If space is a concern they're more convenient. H Davis Russell W. Coover wrote: > My daughter just called and told me that her "old" computer (probably from > 2001 or 2002 - an early XP) just died. It blue screened and when she > rebooted, she got a message that no operating system was found. I, of > course, volunteered to drive over and take a look, but she told me it was > time for a new computer. I still intend to take a look, but, in the mean > time, I'm looking for an inexpensive new desktop to replace the broken one. > > > > Their computer is not used for gaming. It is used for email. internet, > storing photos, word processing, and similar. They do not have the funds to > buy anything more than a basic desktop. > > > > Checking ads at one major computer retailer, I noticed a brand I have never > heard of, ZT. The ZT computers seemed to be less expensive than similarly > equipped computers. For example, at the bottom, for $400, a Vista Home > Premium machine with an Athlon 64x2 5200+, 2 GB memory, a 320 GB HD, a DVD > writer, and more is available. For $705, you can get a Vista Home Premium > with a Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU, 4 GB memory, 500 GB HD, a decent 512 MB ATI > Video Card, a DVD writer and more. > > > > Anyone have any experience, good or bad with ZT machines? Your expertise > will be appreciated. > > > > Russ Coover > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Sun Sep 21 08:00:20 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:00:20 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200> Hi, thanks to all who sent in answeres to my question. Yes, I've seen the item in WindowsSecrets - which made me tackle this unsolved problem again in the first place. Just wanted to know if any of you out there had experience with any of these progs. Of course I'm also aware that many out there do use Roboform. I have once tried it in the past, but somehow couldn't convince myself to install it into Maxthon (which I used then). Somehow I guess I had wished for something less 'obtrusive'. Guess I'll go and have another peek at it now. Thanks again Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tilman Brandl" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:08 AM Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? > Hello, > > I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to > better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've > gathered over time. > > Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid > for > programs out there? Any suggestions...? > > I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started > using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I > don't understand exactly how to use this option). > > Any insight + tips would be appreciated > > Tilman From Computerfee at t-online.de Sun Sep 21 12:37:13 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:37:13 +0200 Subject: TSGL: looking for a label programme Message-ID: <1DC57CBEE5914718AED12601D70AA20E@HeidisPC> Hi there everybody! I have been using one German label creating programme for years (in different versions), in fact since I started printing me labels for those little friendship booklets that are used in the penpal scene all over the world. It is a rather easy to use and cheap programme but now that I want to open a little bit of a business by creating labels for friends and maybe a few others who will pay me a small amount (nothing to get rich, just to pay the material and a few cents more) I can't use it as the EULA says I must not use the programme but for creating labels for my own personal use, nothing that will be given paid or free to others. So now I really am wondering what other programme could be helpful - I have tried Word and that is a bit better to use for my purposes than Word with the Avery wizard but still not perfect as of course it would be better to have a programme that will offer the correctly measured label sites and still would allow me to put text and pictures closer to the edges of the labels than what I can do in Word or with Avery. I need to be able to add pictures aside the address and have to add different fonts and different sizes or colours of fonts or coloured squares around some words. Have tried a few free label programmes and none was doing what I need (moreover most of these are not mentioned to run under Vista, though some did it after all), so I guess I will have to purchase a more expensive programme (though it should not cost more than I think 20 ? which should be about $ 30, as it will take quite a time until I can earn that and I am giving my free time into the job already, so definitely cannot waste money even), but of course do not want to discover only when I spent the money that it does not do what I want either. So my question: is anyone around here after all who by chance knows anything detailed about such a programme? Have a great start of a wonderful new week soon Best wishes Heidi From Computerfee at t-online.de Sun Sep 21 12:50:03 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:50:03 +0200 Subject: TSGL: coding for e-mails Message-ID: <2F93A9C305894D368ABD8D72BD601BD7@HeidisPC> Hi everybody, when posting my mail right before I remembered another question I have - can't get it sorted that Windows Mail keeps the setting of coding so that I can send mails including the ?-sign without having to tell sending it via Unicode or whatever the question is that pops up when I want to send the mail. When I change the coding from West-European (ISO) to Latin 9 (ISO) it is all okay but I can't set this permanently. Think I remember it was something you had to change in Internet Explorer but there is no Latin 9 available and whatever I tried there of the different offered settings, did alter the typical German letters (???) on internet sites to strange signs and did nto help therefore at all. so i guess, i probably did jsut not try hte one correct coding that has ot be taken? Hope at least the german or austrian members can help! have a nice day bestt wishes Heidi From jonpan at onlinehome.de Sun Sep 21 14:23:06 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:23:06 +0200 Subject: TSGL: coding for e-mails References: <2F93A9C305894D368ABD8D72BD601BD7@HeidisPC> Message-ID: Hi Heidi, At least this URL will provide you with a lot of information to mull over - it might, I hope, even help! http://www.bcs-mt.org.uk/wiggd.htm Tsch?? John Od/G P.S. Does my u-Umlaut come through, by the way? ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schroeder To: TSGL Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: TSGL: coding for e-mails Hi everybody, when posting my mail right before I remembered another question I have - can't get it sorted that Windows Mail keeps the setting of coding so that I can send mails including the ?-sign without having to tell sending it via Unicode or whatever the question is that pops up when I want to send the mail. When I change the coding from West-European (ISO) to Latin 9 (ISO) it is all okay but I can't set this permanently. Think I remember it was something you had to change in Internet Explorer but there is no Latin 9 available and whatever I tried there of the different offered settings, did alter the typical German letters (???) on internet sites to strange signs and did nto help therefore at all. so i guess, i probably did jsut not try hte one correct coding that has ot be taken? Hope at least the german or austrian members can help! have a nice day bestt wishes Heidi _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sun Sep 21 15:02:42 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:02:42 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> <11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <48D69A52.4060603@gmail.com> Tilman, I use a program called Password Agent . It costs about $25 but there's a lite version available for free. The lite version is limited to 25 passwords but it would give you a chance to try it out. Go to the bottom of the link above to find the lite version. Each entry has a field for the URL of the site you're interested in so you open PA, click a button to open the site, position the cursor in the user name field, then click on the PA button that fills the user name and password fields. There is some macro like capability that allows you to add delays or new line characters etc in the strings to accommodate some difficult sites. It is independent of your browser and you can store any number of notes for each entry. This has positive and negative implications. It's not as closely integrated with the browser so you have to move back and forth between the web page and PA at least once. But you can store any other secure information you want. It's operated flawlessly for me for several years. I keep looking at Roboform but those reviewing it seem to give negative points for their marketing methods (pitched as free unless you really look closely at the fine print) and it's web-centric orientation. HTH H Davis Tilman Brandl wrote: > Hi, > > thanks to all who sent in answeres to my question. > > Yes, I've seen the item in WindowsSecrets - which made me tackle this > unsolved problem again in the first place. Just wanted to know if any of you > out there had experience with any of these progs. > > Of course I'm also aware that many out there do use Roboform. I have once > tried it in the past, but somehow couldn't convince myself to install it > into Maxthon (which I used then). Somehow I guess I had wished for something > less 'obtrusive'. Guess I'll go and have another peek at it now. > > Thanks again > Tilman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tilman Brandl" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 2:08 AM > Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? > > > >> Hello, >> >> I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to >> better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've >> gathered over time. >> >> Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid >> for >> programs out there? Any suggestions...? >> >> I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started >> using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I >> don't understand exactly how to use this option). >> >> Any insight + tips would be appreciated >> >> Tilman >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From Computerfee at t-online.de Mon Sep 22 00:33:17 2008 From: Computerfee at t-online.de (Heidi Schroeder) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:33:17 +0200 Subject: TSGL: coding for e-mails In-Reply-To: References: <2F93A9C305894D368ABD8D72BD601BD7@HeidisPC> Message-ID: Hi John! thanks a lot, this site did help me to go to the right place in Windows Mail to set the value permanently. When I saw it, I sure did remember it was there but before just did not think of it. So now I can add ? and ? and ??? and post the mail right away! Your ? came through clearly. einen sch?nen Montag w?nscht aus dem regnerischem Berlin Heidi ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: coding for e-mails Hi Heidi, At least this URL will provide you with a lot of information to mull over - it might, I hope, even help! http://www.bcs-mt.org.uk/wiggd.htm Tsch?? John Od/G P.S. Does my u-Umlaut come through, by the way? ----- Original Message ----- From: Heidi Schroeder To: TSGL Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 6:50 PM Subject: TSGL: coding for e-mails Hi everybody, when posting my mail right before I remembered another question I have - can't get it sorted that Windows Mail keeps the setting of coding so that I can send mails including the ?-sign without having to tell sending it via Unicode or whatever the question is that pops up when I want to send the mail. When I change the coding from West-European (ISO) to Latin 9 (ISO) it is all okay but I can't set this permanently. Think I remember it was something you had to change in Internet Explorer but there is no Latin 9 available and whatever I tried there of the different offered settings, did alter the typical German letters (???) on internet sites to strange signs and did nto help therefore at all. so i guess, i probably did jsut not try hte one correct coding that has ot be taken? Hope at least the german or austrian members can help! have a nice day bestt wishes Heidi _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Tue Sep 23 07:52:53 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:52:53 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200><11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D69A52.4060603@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4c5f01c91d72$ec5572f0$0201a8c0@til4200> thanks a lot for the info ! I'm still in the process of looking for alternatives, so this cames in quite handy. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Davis" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Which Password Manager? > Tilman, > > I use a program called Password Agent > . It costs about $25 but > there's a lite version available for free. The lite version is limited > to 25 passwords but it would give you a chance to try it out. Go to the > bottom of the link above to find the lite version. > > Each entry has a field for the URL of the site you're interested in so > you open PA, click a button to open the site, position the cursor in the > user name field, then click on the PA button that fills the user name > and password fields. There is some macro like capability that allows you > to add delays or new line characters etc in the strings to accommodate > some difficult sites. > > It is independent of your browser and you can store any number of notes > for each entry. This has positive and negative implications. It's not as > closely integrated with the browser so you have to move back and forth > between the web page and PA at least once. But you can store any other > secure information you want. > > It's operated flawlessly for me for several years. I keep looking at > Roboform but those reviewing it seem to give negative points for their > marketing methods (pitched as free unless you really look closely at the > fine print) and it's web-centric orientation. > > HTH > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> thanks to all who sent in answeres to my question. >> >> Yes, I've seen the item in WindowsSecrets - which made me tackle this >> unsolved problem again in the first place. Just wanted to know if any of you >> out there had experience with any of these progs. >> >> Of course I'm also aware that many out there do use Roboform. I have once >> tried it in the past, but somehow couldn't convince myself to install it >> into Maxthon (which I used then). Somehow I guess I had wished for something >> less 'obtrusive'. Guess I'll go and have another peek at it now. >> >> Thanks again >> Tilman From nortnarg at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 09:14:10 2008 From: nortnarg at gmail.com (Ron Grant) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:14:10 -0500 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <48D8EBA2.1050600@gmail.com> I use a Program called PINS. A small program that requires no install and runs locally on your computer. Could run from a flash drive if needed. Password protected. The price is right. Free! Just the ticket for me. I have used it for years. More here: http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html Tilman Brandl wrote: > Hello, > > I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to > better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've > gathered over time. > > Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for > programs out there? Any suggestions...? > > I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started > using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I > don't understand exactly how to use this option). > > Any insight + tips would be appreciated > > Tilman > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > From misterclever at hotmail.com Tue Sep 23 12:48:47 2008 From: misterclever at hotmail.com (Geoff Glave) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:48:47 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> Message-ID: Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows 2000? Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver, Canada _________________________________________________________________ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 13:00:32 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:00:32 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <48D8EBA2.1050600@gmail.com> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200> <48D8EBA2.1050600@gmail.com> Message-ID: <48D920B0.4060502@gmail.com> Just an aside about these password programs. Using Pins as an example - I'm sure Mirek W?jtowicz, the author is a really nice guy but do we know for sure??? As users we really have no way to evaluate the security of these programs. We rely on the market place to do that. We assume well known programs like Roboform have been vetted by reviewers and technically astute folks and found reliable. However, I doubt if PINS (or even Password Agent, the one I use) has been subjected to such scrutiny. Any of these lesser know programs could be "phoning home" with all our valuable information. Even if they are not overtly subversive they could be defective and susceptible to attack. Just because they claim to use a particular encryption algorithm doesn't mean they've implemented it correctly. The Germans had a very good encryption algorithm in Enigma but human problems with its use rendered it breakable with moderate effort. So there is an argument for going with the best known and most used of these programs on the assumption that any weaknesses would have been discovered by now. Just some thoughts. H Davis Ron Grant wrote: > I use a Program called PINS. > A small program that requires no install and runs locally on your > computer. Could run from a flash drive if needed. Password protected. > The price is right. Free! Just the ticket for me. I have used it for > years. More here: > http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html > > Tilman Brandl wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've read about password managers and think about using one in order to >> better manage the hundreds of webaddress+username+password combos I've >> gathered over time. >> >> Does any of you have (positive) experience with any of the free or paid for >> programs out there? Any suggestions...? >> >> I understand that FF3 has an option to store passwords and have started >> using it - is this THE solution, instead of any other program? (Sofar I >> don't understand exactly how to use this option). >> >> Any insight + tips would be appreciated >> >> Tilman >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From tbrandl2 at chello.at Tue Sep 23 19:26:41 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:26:41 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200><48D8EBA2.1050600@gmail.com> <48D920B0.4060502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4d7a01c91dd4$b876b770$0201a8c0@til4200> As to whether PINs is a secure to use program: Ah - yes - you probably have a point there. OTOH- I've downloaded quite a number of programs over the past decades which were pretty unknown too, as have been the creators. But then of course storing passwords is a touchy thing, so one HAS to watch out for possible threats. The reason why I'm not afraid with PINs: Out of past experience and since security in general is pretty tight on my machine, I'm quite sure that nothing on my box can phone home without me or my firewall noticing immediately. I'll at least give PINs a try. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Davis" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:00 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Which Password Manager? Just an aside about these password programs. Using Pins as an example - I'm sure Mirek W?jtowicz, the author is a really nice guy but do we know for sure??? As users we really have no way to evaluate the security of these programs. We rely on the market place to do that. We assume well known programs like Roboform have been vetted by reviewers and technically astute folks and found reliable. However, I doubt if PINS (or even Password Agent, the one I use) has been subjected to such scrutiny. Any of these lesser know programs could be "phoning home" with all our valuable information. Even if they are not overtly subversive they could be defective and susceptible to attack. Just because they claim to use a particular encryption algorithm doesn't mean they've implemented it correctly. The Germans had a very good encryption algorithm in Enigma but human problems with its use rendered it breakable with moderate effort. So there is an argument for going with the best known and most used of these programs on the assumption that any weaknesses would have been discovered by now. Just some thoughts. H Davis From hbcanon at homemail.com Tue Sep 23 23:43:15 2008 From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:43:15 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? In-Reply-To: <4c5f01c91d72$ec5572f0$0201a8c0@til4200> References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200><11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200><48D69A52.4060603@gmail.com> <4c5f01c91d72$ec5572f0$0201a8c0@til4200> Message-ID: <002d01c91df7$ad53d5d0$0201a8c0@hbcanon> Go to the PASSWORD SAFE site and read about it. I have used it for about 3 years. Not about to change. HBCanon Geneva, FL -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Tilman Brandl Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 07:53 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Which Password Manager? thanks a lot for the info ! I'm still in the process of looking for alternatives, so this cames in quite handy. Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "H Davis" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:02 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Which Password Manager? > Tilman, > > I use a program called Password Agent > . It costs about $25 but > there's a lite version available for free. The lite version is limited > to 25 passwords but it would give you a chance to try it out. Go to the > bottom of the link above to find the lite version. > > Each entry has a field for the URL of the site you're interested in so > you open PA, click a button to open the site, position the cursor in the > user name field, then click on the PA button that fills the user name > and password fields. There is some macro like capability that allows you > to add delays or new line characters etc in the strings to accommodate > some difficult sites. > > It is independent of your browser and you can store any number of notes > for each entry. This has positive and negative implications. It's not as > closely integrated with the browser so you have to move back and forth > between the web page and PA at least once. But you can store any other > secure information you want. > > It's operated flawlessly for me for several years. I keep looking at > Roboform but those reviewing it seem to give negative points for their > marketing methods (pitched as free unless you really look closely at the > fine print) and it's web-centric orientation. > > HTH > > H Davis > > Tilman Brandl wrote: >> Hi, >> >> thanks to all who sent in answeres to my question. >> >> Yes, I've seen the item in WindowsSecrets - which made me tackle this >> unsolved problem again in the first place. Just wanted to know if any of you >> out there had experience with any of these progs. >> >> Of course I'm also aware that many out there do use Roboform. I have once >> tried it in the past, but somehow couldn't convince myself to install it >> into Maxthon (which I used then). Somehow I guess I had wished for something >> less 'obtrusive'. Guess I'll go and have another peek at it now. >> >> Thanks again >> Tilman _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From genoe at charter.net Wed Sep 24 12:51:16 2008 From: genoe at charter.net (gene) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:51:16 -0500 Subject: TSGL: Desktop Network Message-ID: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Hi Everyone, Could someone give me the steps to go through to set up a wireless network on my desktop computer. I bought a linksys router, which works fine , I can connect my laptop to it. No problems. I can also hard wire my desktop to it and it works fine. But i want to run my desktop wireless so i guess i need to set up a network on my desktop. I'm running xp with service pack 2. Please help, thanks in advance, Gene From hdavis1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 13:39:10 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:39:10 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Desktop Network In-Reply-To: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <48DA7B3E.5060007@gmail.com> Gene, I guess the first question is, do you have a wireless card in your desktop? Laptops usually come with one built in but desktops do not. But why go with wireless if you already have a wired connection? The LAN (wired) is easier to set up, faster and more secure. H Davis gene wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Could someone give me the steps to go through to set up a wireless > network on my desktop computer. I bought a linksys router, which > works fine , I can connect my laptop to it. No problems. I can also > hard wire my desktop to it and it works fine. But i want to run my > desktop wireless so i guess i need to set up a network on my desktop. > I'm running xp with service pack 2. > Please help, thanks in advance, > Gene > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From edlynn at usa.com Wed Sep 24 13:49:03 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:49:03 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 Message-ID: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> Hi all - OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me into #3. Bad move! Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as there was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on what my procedure should be now? Thanks. ED From hbcanon at homemail.com Wed Sep 24 15:18:30 2008 From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:18:30 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 In-Reply-To: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: <002201c91e7a$54f81e40$0201a8c0@hbcanon> That has happened to a lot of people. There are FF BUGZILLA issues open on it, but I see no fixes as yet. Happened to me on two machines, but was successful on the third. Starting FF3 directly works fine; then links work. But you can't get the links to start FF3. It is loaded (see the task manager) but doing nothing. You must kill it and start it directly to get it to work. HBCanon Geneva, FL -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of EdlynnUSA Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 13:49 To: TechSupportGuys Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 Hi all - OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me into #3. Bad move! Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as there was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on what my procedure should be now? Thanks. ED _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From Trio200 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 04:16:06 2008 From: Trio200 at gmail.com (Trio200) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:16:06 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 In-Reply-To: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: <48D9F746.6020401@gmail.com> Is your firewall blocking ff3? It would consider ff3 a new program that you need to allow. Check the program settings in your firewall. Bob EdlynnUSA wrote: > Hi all - > > OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me into > #3. Bad move! > > Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start > Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short > cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. > > I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. > > I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as there > was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. > > I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on > what my procedure should be now? Thanks. > > ED > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > From jonpan at onlinehome.de Wed Sep 24 16:23:50 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:23:50 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: <850C67E7C30E49DEAC449D0F0F24BA5A@johnsp2> Ed, try going to C: or D: Program Files Mozilla Firefox Firefox.exe - right click, then Send To / Desktop (create shortcut) Drag and drop the shortcut from the Desktop to the Quicklaunch bar. Not sure I've understood the problem, but hope this helps. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: EdlynnUSA To: TechSupportGuys Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 Hi all - OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me into #3. Bad move! Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as there was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on what my procedure should be now? Thanks. ED _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From edlynn at usa.com Wed Sep 24 17:11:58 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:11:58 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 JONPAN References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> <850C67E7C30E49DEAC449D0F0F24BA5A@johnsp2> Message-ID: <000301c91e8a$2f284c20$2f01a8c0@mine> At Program Files, I do not have a Firefox.exe to send to desktop. ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Firefox 3 > Ed, try going to > C: or D: > Program Files > Mozilla Firefox > Firefox.exe - right click, then Send To / Desktop (create shortcut) > > Drag and drop the shortcut from the Desktop to the Quicklaunch bar. > > Not sure I've understood the problem, but hope this helps. > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: EdlynnUSA > To: TechSupportGuys > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:49 PM > Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 > > > Hi all - > > OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me > into > #3. Bad move! > > Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start > Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the > short > cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. > > I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. > > I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as > there > was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. > > I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on > what my procedure should be now? Thanks. > > ED > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > From genoe at charter.net Wed Sep 24 17:22:43 2008 From: genoe at charter.net (gene) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:22:43 -0500 Subject: TSGL: Desktop Network In-Reply-To: <48DA7B3E.5060007@gmail.com> References: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <48DA7B3E.5060007@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080924212029.SGPL3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> No I don't. I want to be able to download files from my desktop to my lap top and visa versa. Gene At 12:39 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote: >Gene, > >I guess the first question is, do you have a wireless card in your >desktop? Laptops usually come with one built in but desktops do not. > >But why go with wireless if you already have a wired connection? The LAN >(wired) is easier to set up, faster and more secure. > >H Davis > >gene wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Could someone give me the steps to go through to set up a wireless > > network on my desktop computer. I bought a linksys router, which > > works fine , I can connect my laptop to it. No problems. I can also > > hard wire my desktop to it and it works fine. But i want to run my > > desktop wireless so i guess i need to set up a network on my desktop. > > I'm running xp with service pack 2. > > Please help, thanks in advance, > > Gene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > >-- >H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Support Guy Mailing List >http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From edlynn at usa.com Wed Sep 24 18:33:14 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:33:14 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 JONPAN Message-ID: <000301c91e95$89574c90$2f01a8c0@mine> Hi - Control Panel has FF3 listed, but wuill not accept a removal, and will not connect to tech assistance via their link there. Program Files has a lot of subfolder under Mozilla Furefox, but no uninstaller and no .exe Panda Firewall is open for Firefox. ED From tbrandl2 at chello.at Wed Sep 24 19:47:45 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:47:45 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: ED, > "...I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short cut links, or even via the All Programs selection." Not sure what you mean by 'cannot get connected to the Internet' ... ? (1) Starting/firing up/running FF3 and (2) getting a connection to the web are 2 different things. So, can you double click any of the FF3 icons you have and see it open onto your desktop? That is what should happen. If not, then Jonpan's idea that you might not have a working link and should create a new one from where FF3.exe resides on your machine would be worth a try. Do a search for 'firefox.exe' on your machine, and create a new link there, you can then move it whereever you like. If you can't start FF from there, try doubleclicking on Firefox.exe directly ... If neither links nor the doubleclick make FF3 run, your installation could be broken. Let us know where you are stuck with this problem Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "EdlynnUSA" To: "TechSupportGuys" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 > Hi all - > > OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me into > #3. Bad move! > > Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start > Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the short > cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. > > I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. > > I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as there > was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. > > I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on > what my procedure should be now? Thanks. > > ED From tbrandl2 at chello.at Wed Sep 24 19:49:11 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:49:11 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Which Password Manager? References: <0f7801c91ab5$18bafc40$0201a8c0@til4200><11b701c91be1$a69405c0$0201a8c0@til4200><48D69A52.4060603@gmail.com><4c5f01c91d72$ec5572f0$0201a8c0@til4200> <002d01c91df7$ad53d5d0$0201a8c0@hbcanon> Message-ID: > Go to the PASSWORD SAFE site and read about it. I have used it for about 3 years. ... I'm going to try it. Thanks Tilman From coover at fastmail.fm Wed Sep 24 19:54:35 2008 From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:54:35 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Desktop Network In-Reply-To: <20080924212029.SGPL3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net><48DA7B3E.5060007@gmail.com> <20080924212029.SGPL3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: Obviously, then, the first thing you must do is to buy, borrow, or steal a wireless network interface card and install it on your desktop. Since you have a Linksys Wireless Router, it may be easiest to use Linksys in your desktop (though I personally prefer Netgear). So my first question here is: Whioh Linksys router do you own? The answer to that question should tell us whether your router is 802.11 a, b, g, or n or a combination of these. By the way, when you have installed your system, it is important that you secure it. Running an unsecured network can cause you a lot of problems. If, after you get your wireless network going and you can't figure out from the instruction book how to set up a WPA secured network, ask here. And please, do not set up a WEP secured network. Most of your neighborhood 6 year old hackers will be able to defeat it. Russ Coover -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of gene Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:23 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop Network No I don't. I want to be able to download files from my desktop to my lap top and visa versa. Gene At 12:39 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote: >Gene, > >I guess the first question is, do you have a wireless card in your >desktop? Laptops usually come with one built in but desktops do not. > >But why go with wireless if you already have a wired connection? The LAN >(wired) is easier to set up, faster and more secure. > >H Davis > >gene wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Could someone give me the steps to go through to set up a wireless > > network on my desktop computer. I bought a linksys router, which > > works fine , I can connect my laptop to it. No problems. I can also > > hard wire my desktop to it and it works fine. But i want to run my > > desktop wireless so i guess i need to set up a network on my desktop. > > I'm running xp with service pack 2. > > Please help, thanks in advance, > > Gene > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > >-- >H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Tech Support Guy Mailing List >http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Wed Sep 24 21:43:08 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:43:08 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Desktop Network In-Reply-To: <20080924212029.SGPL3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> References: <20080924164901.CPEY3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> <48DA7B3E.5060007@gmail.com> <20080924212029.SGPL3342.aarprv06.charter.net@genecomputer.charter.net> Message-ID: <48DAECAC.6070407@gmail.com> Gene, Your existing configuration will allow that. Anything connected to the router by wire or wireless can communicate with anything else connected to the router. You have to set up shared folders on at least one machine to share files. Generally you set up a folder on one machine and "share" it. When you share it, the folder and its contents become visible on the other machine - in the My Network Places, if I remember right. It's been a while since I set up my network and the gruesome details are a little foggy. Look in My Network Places, Entire Network, Microsoft Windows Network, Mshome. The mshome may be Workgroup (or something similar) depending on whether you have XP Home or Pro. If you have both on different machines you must change that name on some of the machines so that they are all the same. That's the network name and only things on the same network can see each other. To share a folder select it in Windows Explorer (WE), right click, click on Sharing and Security, Sharing tab, check the box for Share this folder on the Network, accept or change the suggested Share Name and remember it, check the box to Allow Network Users to change my files if you want to edit or delete the shared files on other machines. Keep this mental picture in mind: Rather than "downloading" files from one machine to another as you mentioned what you're really doing is making files on one machine accessible to all the machines on the network. You may physically copy them to another machine if you desire by simply dragging and dropping as you would normally do on a single machine. The shared folder resides on only one machine but is visible from the others on the network and appears as if it were a local folder on those other machines. Say the shared folder is created on machine A. If you move a file already on machine A, test.txt say, into the shared folder it is just another file transfer as far as machine A is concerned, so far nothing has passed over the network. If you go to machine B and open test.txt, which appears in the virtual copy of the real folder on A, with a text editor the file will move across the network into the RAM on machine B (but not onto its disk drive). You do your normal editing thing, close the editor and the changes are written back to test.txt on machine A. If you just want to copy test.txt to machine B, just drag it from the (virtual copy of) shared folder on machine B to somewhere else on machine B. This will cause a copy of test.txt to pass over the network and be copied to the hard drive on machine B. Clear as mud, right? If you're moving a file from machine A to machine B just to work on it and then plan to move it back to machine A you really don't have to actually move it to machine B since you can work on it directly on machine A from machine B. Both machines have to be connected to the network at the same time of course. This will work if they are both at home but if you take the lap top to work you'll have to actually move the file of interest to the lap top for it to travel to work with you. If you get this far there are some things you can do to make the shared folders conceptually simpler. I'll leave those for later. Those of you that can fill in the details that are, at this point, somewhat fuzzy for this writer jump in. H Davis gene wrote: > No I don't. > I want to be able to download files from my desktop to my lap top and > visa versa. > Gene > > > > > > > At 12:39 PM 9/24/2008, you wrote: > >> Gene, >> >> I guess the first question is, do you have a wireless card in your >> desktop? Laptops usually come with one built in but desktops do not. >> >> But why go with wireless if you already have a wired connection? The LAN >> (wired) is easier to set up, faster and more secure. >> >> H Davis >> >> gene wrote: >> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> Could someone give me the steps to go through to set up a wireless >>> network on my desktop computer. I bought a linksys router, which >>> works fine , I can connect my laptop to it. No problems. I can also >>> hard wire my desktop to it and it works fine. But i want to run my >>> desktop wireless so i guess i need to set up a network on my desktop. >>> I'm running xp with service pack 2. >>> Please help, thanks in advance, >>> Gene >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From jonpan at onlinehome.de Thu Sep 25 02:49:16 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:49:16 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 JONPAN References: <000801c91e6d$d7c96b60$2f01a8c0@mine><850C67E7C30E49DEAC449D0F0F24BA5A@johnsp2> <000301c91e8a$2f284c20$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: <7E7A0FF10DBA4941A27B8006FA2358FC@johnsp2> Try a search for firefox.exe. It must be somewhere! John ----- Original Message ----- From: EdlynnUSA To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Firefox 3 JONPAN At Program Files, I do not have a Firefox.exe to send to desktop. ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonpan" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Firefox 3 > Ed, try going to > C: or D: > Program Files > Mozilla Firefox > Firefox.exe - right click, then Send To / Desktop (create shortcut) > > Drag and drop the shortcut from the Desktop to the Quicklaunch bar. > > Not sure I've understood the problem, but hope this helps. > > John > Od/G > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: EdlynnUSA > To: TechSupportGuys > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:49 PM > Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 > > > Hi all - > > OS=WinXPPro/SP2.I had been using FF2x happily, but then they pushed me > into > #3. Bad move! > > Now, with #3 aboard on the Desktop, Quick Launch, and pinned to the Start > Menu, I still cannot get connected to the Internet via any one of the > short > cut links, or even via the All Programs selection. I now have to use IE7. > > I tried, unsuccessfully, to remove FF3, but error said it was in use. > > I tried to reinstall, there was no option to repair, but it failed, as > there > was an error committed somewhere during Install. Download was fine. > > I would like to continue using Firefox, but no links work. Any thoughts on > what my procedure should be now? Thanks. > > ED > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Thu Sep 25 10:58:01 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:58:01 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> Message-ID: Geoff, I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you didn't ... I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.htm See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Glave" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows 2000? > > Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Geoff in Vancouver, Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > From edlynn at usa.com Thu Sep 25 12:26:58 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:26:58 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Firefox 3 link is back Message-ID: <000501c91f2b$89076db0$2f01a8c0@mine> Hi all - The link had just stoped working, and thanks to your help, it's back again. The ".exe" had disappeared - no reason. Could not delete via Control Panel, nor reinstall without error messages. It looked like it was nor ro be. I tried one last time by manually searching and deleting anything that smacked of Firefox, except Favorites. All 59 files! I then closed my AV and Firewall and this time, successfully downloaded FF3 direct from Mozilla.com site. The links were restored. I had done all of that before, except for the "manual" deletions. Alls well that ends well... Thanks. ED From michaelsweeden at comcast.net Thu Sep 25 14:14:36 2008 From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:14:36 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> Message-ID: <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> PC Tools released in late August Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus Starter Edition that is both highly rated and free, and it works with Windows 2000. It can be found here, among other places: http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=346351 Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Tilman Brandl Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:58 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? Geoff, I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you didn't ... I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.ht m See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Glave" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows 2000? > > Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Geoff in Vancouver, Canada > > _________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 16:03:39 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:03:39 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> Message-ID: <48DBEE9B.3090502@gmail.com> Geoff, AVG 8 free should run on W2k and includes AV as well as anti-spyware functions. H Davis Michael Sweeden wrote: > PC Tools released in late August Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus Starter > Edition that is both highly rated and free, and it works with Windows 2000. > It can be found here, among other places: > http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=346351 > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Tilman Brandl > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:58 AM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Geoff, > > I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you > didn't ... > > I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I > guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software > since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win > 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's > http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no > 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.ht > m > > See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Glave" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > > >> Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows >> > 2000? > >> Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Cheers, >> Geoff in Vancouver, Canada >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From michaelsweeden at comcast.net Thu Sep 25 17:14:53 2008 From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:14:53 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: <48DBEE9B.3090502@gmail.com> References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> <48DBEE9B.3090502@gmail.com> Message-ID: <008c01c91f53$c17b9c20$0100000a@michael> Hey, H: AVG 8 does not run on 2000 - just XP and Vista. Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:04 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? Geoff, AVG 8 free should run on W2k and includes AV as well as anti-spyware functions. H Davis Michael Sweeden wrote: > PC Tools released in late August Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus Starter > Edition that is both highly rated and free, and it works with Windows 2000. > It can be found here, among other places: > http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=346351 > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of Tilman Brandl > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:58 AM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Geoff, > > I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you > didn't ... > > I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I > guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software > since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win > 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's > http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no > 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.ht > m > > See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Glave" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM > Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > > >> Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows >> > 2000? > >> Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Cheers, >> Geoff in Vancouver, Canada >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Thu Sep 25 18:03:48 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:03:48 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: <008c01c91f53$c17b9c20$0100000a@michael> References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> <48DBEE9B.3090502@gmail.com> <008c01c91f53$c17b9c20$0100000a@michael> Message-ID: <48DC0AC4.8080004@gmail.com> Michael, The link I included below shows that it should run on 2k, that's my only authority. Do you have some other reason to know it doesn't? Bitter experience perhaps ;-) I just now looked further down the page to the footnotes and found "AVG only runs on Windows 2000 SP4 + Update Rollup 1, Windows XP SP2, Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP1 and Windows Vista/Vista x64 Edition or higher". Note to self: Always check the footnotes. H Davis Michael Sweeden wrote: > Hey, H: > AVG 8 does not run on 2000 - just XP and Vista. > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:04 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Geoff, > > AVG 8 > free should run on W2k and includes AV as well as anti-spyware functions. > > H Davis > > Michael Sweeden wrote: > >> PC Tools released in late August Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus Starter >> Edition that is both highly rated and free, and it works with Windows >> > 2000. > >> It can be found here, among other places: >> http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=346351 >> Michael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On >> Behalf Of Tilman Brandl >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:58 AM >> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? >> >> Geoff, >> >> I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you >> didn't ... >> >> I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I >> guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software >> since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win >> 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's >> http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no >> 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be >> >> > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.ht > >> m >> >> See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html >> >> Tilman >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Geoff Glave" >> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM >> Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? >> >> >> >> >>> Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows >>> >>> >> 2000? >> >> >>> Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Geoff in Vancouver, Canada >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From michaelsweeden at comcast.net Thu Sep 25 19:17:30 2008 From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:17:30 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: <48DC0AC4.8080004@gmail.com> References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> <005001c91f3a$9277aa90$0100000a@michael> <48DBEE9B.3090502@gmail.com><008c01c91f53$c17b9c20$0100000a@michael> <48DC0AC4.8080004@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009301c91f64$e2cf8010$0100000a@michael> Hey, H: Same note to my self :). I'd tried to install it on an infected client PC and got a message that is was not compatible. Apparently with the listed updates (SP4 + update rollup 1) it would work. Good to know! Michael -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of H Davis Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:04 PM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? Michael, The link I included below shows that it should run on 2k, that's my only authority. Do you have some other reason to know it doesn't? Bitter experience perhaps ;-) I just now looked further down the page to the footnotes and found "AVG only runs on Windows 2000 SP4 + Update Rollup 1, Windows XP SP2, Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP1 and Windows Vista/Vista x64 Edition or higher". Note to self: Always check the footnotes. H Davis Michael Sweeden wrote: > Hey, H: > AVG 8 does not run on 2000 - just XP and Vista. > Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On > Behalf Of H Davis > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:04 PM > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? > > Geoff, > > AVG 8 > free should run on W2k and includes AV as well as anti-spyware functions. > > H Davis > > Michael Sweeden wrote: > >> PC Tools released in late August Spyware Doctor with AntiVirus Starter >> Edition that is both highly rated and free, and it works with Windows >> > 2000. > >> It can be found here, among other places: >> http://downloads.zdnet.com/abstract.aspx?docid=346351 >> Michael >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On >> Behalf Of Tilman Brandl >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:58 AM >> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? >> >> Geoff, >> >> I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you >> didn't ... >> >> I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I >> guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software >> since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win >> 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's >> http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no >> 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be >> >> > http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.ht > >> m >> >> See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html >> >> Tilman >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Geoff Glave" >> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM >> Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? >> >> >> >> >>> Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows >>> >>> >> 2000? >> >> >>> Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Geoff in Vancouver, Canada >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> >> >> > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From deepend at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 25 21:33:38 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:33:38 +1000 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> I'm working on a friends computer which has been infested by the above virus. It has blocked Avira from running, also blocks any removal software I've tried to run in Safe Mode (Malabytes Antimalware, Ms Malicious Software Removal Tool, Avira Removal Tool, McAfee Stinger). It blocks any attempt to reinstall Avira or AVG in Safe Mode. I can't find any removal tools at Symantec or McAfee sites for this specific virus (thought there are tools for many other W32 variants). Short of reformatting, has anyone been able to remove this particular W32 variant? According to Symantec definitions, the Virut variation has been around for quite a while. I was able to identify it by trying to run the above removal tools off a USB thumb drive. When I replaced the drive in my own computer, Avira immediately informed me that each of these tools had been modified by this virus. Don Penlington From justin at whisperer.com.au Thu Sep 25 21:43:26 2008 From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:43:26 +1000 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> you could boot from "Ultimate Boot CD" and scan.... or you could plug the hard drive into another pc and scan from there if you be careful. Justin 2008/9/26 Don Penlington > I'm working on a friends computer which has been infested by the above > virus. > > It has blocked Avira from running, also blocks any removal software I've > tried to run in Safe Mode (Malabytes Antimalware, Ms Malicious Software > Removal Tool, Avira Removal Tool, McAfee Stinger). > > It blocks any attempt to reinstall Avira or AVG in Safe Mode. > > I can't find any removal tools at Symantec or McAfee sites for this > specific virus (thought there are tools for many other W32 variants). > > Short of reformatting, has anyone been able to remove this particular W32 > variant? According to Symantec definitions, the Virut variation has been > around for quite a while. > > I was able to identify it by trying to run the above removal tools off a > USB thumb drive. When I replaced the drive in my own computer, Avira > immediately informed me that each of these tools had been modified by this > virus. > > Don Penlington > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- http://www.whisperer.com.au The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 Mobile 0406 467 701 Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) From ian at iarp.ca Thu Sep 25 21:57:40 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:57:40 -0400 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> References: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Before opening the machine, have you tried http://housecall65.trendmicro.com? very very good online scanner. Safe mode with networking of course. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:43 PM, The Computer Whisperer < justin at whisperer.com.au> wrote: > you could boot from "Ultimate Boot CD" and scan.... > > or you could plug the hard drive into another pc and scan from there if you > be careful. > > Justin > > > > 2008/9/26 Don Penlington > > > I'm working on a friends computer which has been infested by the above > > virus. > > > > It has blocked Avira from running, also blocks any removal software I've > > tried to run in Safe Mode (Malabytes Antimalware, Ms Malicious Software > > Removal Tool, Avira Removal Tool, McAfee Stinger). > > > > It blocks any attempt to reinstall Avira or AVG in Safe Mode. > > > > I can't find any removal tools at Symantec or McAfee sites for this > > specific virus (thought there are tools for many other W32 variants). > > > > Short of reformatting, has anyone been able to remove this particular W32 > > variant? According to Symantec definitions, the Virut variation has been > > around for quite a while. > > > > I was able to identify it by trying to run the above removal tools off a > > USB thumb drive. When I replaced the drive in my own computer, Avira > > immediately informed me that each of these tools had been modified by > this > > virus. > > > > Don Penlington > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > > > > > -- > http://www.whisperer.com.au > > The Computer Whisperer - Gets you where you want to be. > > Friendly on-site technical support - Home and Small Business Specialist. > > Telephone: (03) 5979 1122 > Mobile 0406 467 701 > > Servicing the Mornington Peninsula (Victoria, Australia) > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From deepend at tpg.com.au Thu Sep 25 23:04:24 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:04:24 +1000 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: References: <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> Ian wrote: >Before opening the machine, have you tried >http://housecall65.trendmicro.com? very very good online scanner. Last time I tried that one a couple of months ago, it offered "free" scanning. To me, that implies free removal---otherwise what's the point? It then wanted to charge me a fee to clean a number of unidentified "problems". I was surprised in view of its many user recommendations. They say nothing about any charge until after the event. I'd now rate it as scammer rather than scanner. I emailed Trend, as I thought they've ruined what used to be an excellent reputation---but received no reply. Did I get it wrong? PS the computer is so old, it's not worth spending money on it. Don Penlington From ian at iarp.ca Thu Sep 25 23:13:30 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:13:30 -0400 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: I think you've been mistaken with one of there trial programs. The link i sent you, is their free online version. I've used it on my own and customers machines for maybe 2years now and it has never asked me for money to remove the viruses. When running i always used the java kernel, but if the box was red i went with active-x kernel. Scans most machines pretty fast and catches usually everything. Combined with Avast boot-time scan i've yet to have a virus evade me. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Don Penlington wrote: > Ian wrote: > >Before opening the machine, have you tried > >http://housecall65.trendmicro.com? very very good online scanner. > Last time I tried that one a couple of months ago, it offered "free" > scanning. To me, that implies free removal---otherwise what's the point? It > then wanted to charge me a fee to clean a number of unidentified > "problems". I was surprised in view of its many user recommendations. They > say nothing about any charge until after the event. > > I'd now rate it as scammer rather than scanner. I emailed Trend, as I > thought they've ruined what used to be an excellent reputation---but > received no reply. > > Did I get it wrong? > > PS the computer is so old, it's not worth spending money on it. > > Don Penlington > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > -- Thanks Ian R-P From deepend at tpg.com.au Fri Sep 26 01:07:17 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:07:17 +1000 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> Ian wrote: >The link i >sent you, is their free online version.>> OK. I'll give them another try sometime. I can't on my friend's machine, as I have it here at home and it's not connected to the internet. Justin wrote: <> I find Ultimate Boot CD rather incomprehensible. I tried it again, but can't find any way to run a scan off the USB drive. I tried BartPE, and ran McAfee Stinger with no results (it doesn't have this particular variant in its database). It wouldn't allow Ms Malware Removal Tool to run. I'm not sure if Justin's 2nd alternative of removing the HD and scanning it in my computer will work, as I think my mobo only sees 2 HD's which I already have. I suppose I could remove one temporarily. Might try it if time permits and no other answer turns up. Can you mix SATA with IDE with both containing different versions of Windows? (W2000 on his and XP on mine). I think I'll just reformat and reload his W2000. There's not enough RAM for XP. Don Penlington From wseehorn at earthlink.net Fri Sep 26 08:10:49 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:10:49 -0400 Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080926080923.00c00a70@pop.earthlink.net> I just got a catalog from an outfit called Cyberguys. I'm interested in several of the things they have, but I've never dealt with them. Has anyone on the group? How was your experience? Thanks Will From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 26 09:07:01 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 06:07:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions Message-ID: <707099.40398.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have purchased items from them for 4 or 5 years now, and never had any problems. Between them and Tiger Direct and Crucial, I usually find anything I need to maintain my support business out of my home (no inventory overhead!). Doug McCarter Computer Guardian Angels ----- Original Message ---- From: Willard Seehorn To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:10:49 AM Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions I just got a catalog from an outfit called Cyberguys. I'm interested in several of the things they have, but I've never dealt with them. Has anyone on the group? How was your experience? Thanks Will _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From edlynn at usa.com Fri Sep 26 11:37:23 2008 From: edlynn at usa.com (EdlynnUSA) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:37:23 -0400 Subject: TSGL: TrendMicro scanning linkl References: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au><2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com><4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000001c91ff6$3fad55f0$2f01a8c0@mine> Ian - I followed your link to HouseCalls... and under TERMS, #1/b cleaning - only the first time personal user gets a free of charge cleaning after free scanning. Therre is a sliding scale plan for subsequent uses. So it is free for the first time only, and only scans remain free. ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Ramsey-Planck" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:13 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus >I think you've been mistaken with one of there trial programs. The link i > sent you, is their free online version. I've used it on my own and > customers > machines for maybe 2years now and it has never asked me for money to > remove > the viruses. > > When running i always used the java kernel, but if the box was red i went > with active-x kernel. Scans most machines pretty fast and catches usually > everything. Combined with Avast boot-time scan i've yet to have a virus > evade me. > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Don Penlington > wrote: > >> Ian wrote: >> >Before opening the machine, have you tried >> >http://housecall65.trendmicro.com? very very good online scanner. >> Last time I tried that one a couple of months ago, it offered "free" >> scanning. To me, that implies free removal---otherwise what's the point? >> It >> then wanted to charge me a fee to clean a number of unidentified >> "problems". I was surprised in view of its many user recommendations. >> They >> say nothing about any charge until after the event. >> >> I'd now rate it as scammer rather than scanner. I emailed Trend, as I >> thought they've ruined what used to be an excellent reputation---but >> received no reply. >> >> Did I get it wrong? >> >> PS the computer is so old, it's not worth spending money on it. >> >> Don Penlington >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tech Support Guy Mailing List >> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ >> > > > > -- > Thanks > Ian R-P > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > From ian at iarp.ca Fri Sep 26 13:04:09 2008 From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:04:09 -0400 Subject: TSGL: TrendMicro scanning linkl In-Reply-To: <000001c91ff6$3fad55f0$2f01a8c0@mine> References: <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <000001c91ff6$3fad55f0$2f01a8c0@mine> Message-ID: So if you run a scan now and it finds something and removes it, if you run a scan again... is it asking you to pay? it's never asked me. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:37 AM, EdlynnUSA wrote: > Ian - > > I followed your link to HouseCalls... and under TERMS, #1/b cleaning - only > the first time personal user gets a free of charge cleaning after free > scanning. > > There is a sliding scale plan for subsequent uses. > > So it is free for the first time only, and only scans remain free. > > ED -- Thanks Ian R-P From hdavis1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 26 13:50:26 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:50:26 -0400 Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions In-Reply-To: <707099.40398.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <707099.40398.qm@web82104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48DD20E2.6030509@gmail.com> Will, I've bought from them several times also. Never any problems. The stuff comes reasonably fast , 3 days or so, and is what I expect for the money. They seem to specialize in smaller, less expensive components. H Davis Doug Mccarter wrote: > I have purchased items from them for 4 or 5 years now, and never had any problems. > Between them and Tiger Direct and Crucial, I usually find anything I need to maintain my support business out of my home (no inventory overhead!). > > Doug McCarter > Computer Guardian Angels > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Willard Seehorn > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:10:49 AM > Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions > > I just got a catalog from an outfit called Cyberguys. > > I'm interested in several of the things they have, but I've never dealt > with them. Has anyone on the group? How was your experience? > > Thanks > > Will > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hdavis1 at gmail.com Fri Sep 26 14:04:27 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:04:27 -0400 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au> <2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com> <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au> <4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <48DD242B.301@gmail.com> Don, If some of the on line references, Symantec, McAfee, etc, give you the names and locations of the virus files you might be able to delete them by hand (or move them off the hard drive juuuuuust in case). Doubtless this demon will try to replace them from back up locations on your machine but it may be possible to delete enough stuff by hand to get the machine to run an AV program. Instead of deleting the offending files try replacing them with an innocuous file of your own creation with the same name (and maybe size) to fake it out. H Davis Don Penlington wrote: > Ian wrote: > >> The link i >> sent you, is their free online version.>> >> > > > OK. I'll give them another try sometime. > > I can't on my friend's machine, as I have it here at home and it's not > connected to the internet. > > Justin wrote: > > > <> > > I find Ultimate Boot CD rather incomprehensible. I tried it again, but > can't find any way to run a scan off the USB drive. > > I tried BartPE, and ran McAfee Stinger with no results (it doesn't have > this particular variant in its database). It wouldn't allow Ms Malware > Removal Tool to run. > > I'm not sure if Justin's 2nd alternative of removing the HD and scanning it > in my computer will work, as I think my mobo only sees 2 HD's which I > already have. I suppose I could remove one temporarily. Might try it if > time permits and no other answer turns up. Can you mix SATA with IDE with > both containing different versions of Windows? (W2000 on his and XP on mine). > > I think I'll just reformat and reload his W2000. There's not enough RAM for XP. > > Don Penlington > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From hbcanon at homemail.com Fri Sep 26 20:04:44 2008 From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:04:44 -0400 Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080926080923.00c00a70@pop.earthlink.net> References: <4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au><4.3.2.20080926112101.00c6a7c0@mail.tpg.com.au><2852b8d40809251843m21901c51g3720fccc7d3b47be@mail.gmail.com><4.3.2.20080926125657.00c74e80@mail.tpg.com.au><4.3.2.20080926144428.00c4a218@mail.tpg.com.au> <6.2.0.14.2.20080926080923.00c00a70@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <006501c92034$a667ab90$0201a8c0@hbcanon> I like them just fine. HBCanon Geneva, FL -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Willard Seehorn Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 08:11 To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: vendor opinions I just got a catalog from an outfit called Cyberguys. I'm interested in several of the things they have, but I've never dealt with them. Has anyone on the group? How was your experience? Thanks Will _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From Beezersmom at aol.com Sat Sep 27 00:46:24 2008 From: Beezersmom at aol.com (Beezersmom at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:46:24 EDT Subject: TSGL: TrendMicro scanning linkl Message-ID: I've never had that happen to me on House Calls, it 'was' always free. Toni In a message dated 9/26/2008 1:04:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ian at iarp.ca writes: So if you run a scan now and it finds something and removes it, if you run a scan again... is it asking you to pay? it's never asked me. On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 11:37 AM, EdlynnUSA wrote: > Ian - > > I followed your link to HouseCalls... and under TERMS, #1/b cleaning - only > the first time personal user gets a free of charge cleaning after free > scanning. > > There is a sliding scale plan for subsequent uses. > > So it is free for the first time only, and only scans remain free. > > ED -- Thanks Ian R-P _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) From wseehorn at earthlink.net Sat Sep 27 10:49:42 2008 From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:49:42 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Compaq BIOS reset In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.20080729124550.00c3d270@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <6.2.0.14.2.20080927104532.00c56008@pop.earthlink.net> I'm trying to fix up a friend's Compaq Presario 4000 to give away. It still works, but its old -- When she set it up she put a power on password. I wanted to take that off, so tried to get into BIOS, but she also put in a setup password. She doesn't remember that password. If I reset the BIOS will that get rid of the password(s)? If so, will just pulling the CMOS battery out for a while work or do I need to do something with jumpers (naturally the book is gone too, assuming there was one) Willard From alan_mitchell at mindspring.com Sat Sep 27 11:00:32 2008 From: alan_mitchell at mindspring.com (Alan Mitchell) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:00:32 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Compaq BIOS reset In-Reply-To: <6.2.0.14.2.20080927104532.00c56008@pop.earthlink.net> References: <4.3.2.20080729124550.00c3d270@mail.tpg.com.au> <6.2.0.14.2.20080927104532.00c56008@pop.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Can't say for sure about the 4500, but I've reset the BIOS on a number of desktops and laptops and the battery removal ALWAYS has worked (on a laptop, of course, make sure you remove the main battery before starting any work). Alan BTW, just worked on a newer Dell desktop system and apparently it has some sort of condenser or temporary battery installed to smooth out power fluctuations, so I'd have to figure out if that was going to cause a concern, but Dell is usually good about posting their manuals on line. -----Original Message----- From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Willard Seehorn Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:50 AM To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Subject: TSGL: Compaq BIOS reset I'm trying to fix up a friend's Compaq Presario 4000 to give away. It still works, but its old -- When she set it up she put a power on password. I wanted to take that off, so tried to get into BIOS, but she also put in a setup password. She doesn't remember that password. If I reset the BIOS will that get rid of the password(s)? If so, will just pulling the CMOS battery out for a while work or do I need to do something with jumpers (naturally the book is gone too, assuming there was one) Willard _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 27 13:19:29 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Message-ID: <897452.75067.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Windows XP SP3 all updates Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 Microsoft Office 2000 all updates I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? TIA Doug McCarter From jonpan at onlinehome.de Sat Sep 27 14:36:10 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:36:10 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) References: <897452.75067.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91C72F8BD31D42E7AAF2A62CE8D7DE07@johnsp2> I suppose you've checked the setting under Word: Tools/Options/Save location, which can be changed as you wish? Can you save to somewhere other than Desktop? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Mccarter To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Windows XP SP3 all updates Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 Microsoft Office 2000 all updates I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? TIA Doug McCarter _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 27 15:44:18 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Message-ID: <55369.55233.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks, John, for the response. I can save either word or notepad files to any location except the desktop or a folder created on the desktop. I can download programs and create shortcuts on the desktop. Only "save as" to the desktop fails and locks the word processing programs. Doug ----- Original Message ---- From: jonpan To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 1:36:10 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) I suppose you've checked the setting under Word: Tools/Options/Save location, which can be changed as you wish? Can you save to somewhere other than Desktop? John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Mccarter To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Windows XP SP3 all updates Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 Microsoft Office 2000 all updates I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? TIA Doug McCarter _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From hdavis1 at gmail.com Sat Sep 27 17:20:03 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:20:03 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) In-Reply-To: <897452.75067.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <897452.75067.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48DEA383.20406@gmail.com> Doug, There were a _bunch_ of Office Updates in Sept & Aug. See list below for my machine, XP SP2, with various pieces of Office and Works. Don't know if any affected you but it might be worth a look at the KB articles to see what's being fixed. I haven't experienced any problems but I don't save things to the desktop. There may be other updates if your configuration is different than mine. H Davis From Sept: Security Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB953404) Size: 6.0 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office 2003 that could allow remote code execution. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E670AD22-D3C1-41F7-BA30-6A67139FEAA3&displaylang=en Security Update for Microsoft Office XP (KB953405) Size: 4.6 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office XP that could allow remote code execution. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=EF3DE64C-FC17-4500-9DA4-A3BBA97FDA6D&displaylang=en Security Update for Microsoft Works 8 (KB956483) Size: 3.4 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Works 8 that could allow arbitrary code to run when a maliciously modified file is opened. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS08-052.mspx Security Update for Office 2003 (KB954478) Size: 1.7 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office System 2003 that could allow arbitrary code to run when you open a maliciously modified file. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E9F8E309-D721-4BAB-B485-5EEDE8D49EB8&displaylang=en Security Update for the 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB951944) Size: 7.8 MB A security vulnerability exists in the 2007 Microsoft Office System and the Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Office System that could allow remote code execution. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=FB457536-26C5-428B-97E4-1FC13718266E&displaylang=en Security Update for the 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB954326) Size: 1.5 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office system 2007 that could allow arbitrary code to run when you open a maliciously modified file. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=4B656FE8-6253-490C-A81A-E4E8F0BB58D2&displaylang=en Security Update for Windows XP (KB938464) Size: 1.3 MB A security issue has been identified that could allow an attacker to remotely compromise a Windows-based system that uses GDI+ and gain control over it. You can help protect your computer by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. More information for this update can be found at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=125468 From Aug: Security Update for 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB951596) Size: 7.3 MB A security vulnerability exists in the Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Microsoft Office System that could allow arbitrary code to run when you open a maliciously modified file. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=7AFDAE9B-9C74-4AF7-9844-0E54221EA3B9&displaylang=en Security Update for 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB954038) Size: 724 KB A security vulnerability exists in the Compatibility Pack for the 2007 Microsoft Office System that could allow arbitrary code to run when you open a maliciously modified file. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=84CE5D58-0010-4945-BCE9-67A41F898F2F&displaylang=en Security Update for Microsoft Office 2003 (KB921598) Size: 514 KB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office 2003 that could allow arbitrary code to run when a maliciously modified file is opened. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=E0DF2F6E-1102-461D-829F-5F3E2D7EB4B3&displaylang=en Security Update for Microsoft Office XP (KB921596) Size: 530 KB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Office XP that could allow arbitrary code to run when a maliciously modified file is opened. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=BF566CE6-23DA-45E5-9C2B-C47331D30E79&displaylang=en Security Update for Microsoft Word 2002 (KB954463) Size: 5.0 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Word 2002 that could allow arbitrary code to run when a maliciously modified file is opened. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=C7146DFC-E1BE-4D13-877B-1D9BCACC4A64&displaylang=en Security Update for Outlook Express for Windows XP (KB951066) Size: 799 KB Security issues have been identified that could allow an attacker to compromise a system that is running Microsoft Outlook Express or Windows Mail and read data from another Internet Explorer domain or the local computer. You can help protect your system by installing this update from Microsoft. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer. More information for this update can be found at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=117705 Update for Microsoft Works 8 (KB955428) Size: 1.8 MB A security vulnerability exists in Microsoft Works 8 that could allow arbitrary code to run when a maliciously modified file is opened. This update resolves that vulnerability. More information for this update can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS08-044.mspx Doug Mccarter wrote: > Windows XP SP3 all updates > Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 > Microsoft Office 2000 all updates > > I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. > > Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? > > TIA > > Doug McCarter > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From alshml at ptd.net Sat Sep 27 18:33:03 2008 From: alshml at ptd.net (Al) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:33:03 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Office Icons Message-ID: <29185BF39E2049EFBD995F1BBD39FFCE@l6j9l2> XP, SP3 In "My Documents" all my Microsoft files have the same generic icon, meaning- the file types are indistinguishable. I can't tell if a file is Word, Excel, Power Point, etc. until I open the file. What can I do to put the Word icons on Word files, and Excel icons on Excel files, etc. Thanks, Al From jonpan at onlinehome.de Sun Sep 28 06:46:06 2008 From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (jonpan) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:46:06 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Office Icons References: <29185BF39E2049EFBD995F1BBD39FFCE@l6j9l2> Message-ID: <698D0D59ED564053BD37EE9983E43946@johnsp2> Hi Al, Just a suggestion: dump or ignore My Documents. Create a folder "WordDocs" and another called "ExcelDocs" on, say, your D: partition. Change the Default File Location in Word and Excel to D:\WordDocs or ExcelDocs. Create shortcuts to these folders on the desktop. Or you could put a shortcut to D: on the Quicklaunch bar, then go to the folders. Have a nice weekend. John Od/G ----- Original Message ----- From: Al To: list at tsgserver.com Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:33 AM Subject: TSGL: Office Icons XP, SP3 In "My Documents" all my Microsoft files have the same generic icon, meaning- the file types are indistinguishable. I can't tell if a file is Word, Excel, Power Point, etc. until I open the file. What can I do to put the Word icons on Word files, and Excel icons on Excel files, etc. Thanks, Al _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Sun Sep 28 06:46:47 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:46:47 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) References: <897452.75067.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Doug, this may not have been mentioned sofar: Try to repair your Word installation. It's under Help (= ?) 'Detect and Repair' Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mccarter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > Windows XP SP3 all updates > Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 > Microsoft Office 2000 all updates > > I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. > > Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? > > TIA > > Doug McCarter > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 28 10:42:47 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 07:42:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Message-ID: <525980.71941.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks all for suggestions so far... Have uninstalled recent updates Have repaired Word installation Have uninstalled several recent misc. software installs Problem still persists Again, it is not just Word, but also Notepad that cannot be saved to the desktop, both can be saved to documents folder, both fail to save to a new folder created on desktop. I suspicion that the desktop is somehow corrupted. In my old Mac days (OS 8.1) you could rebuild the desktop, but I know of no way to do this with Windows XP. Any advice on this? Doug ----- Original Message ---- From: Tilman Brandl To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:46:47 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Doug, this may not have been mentioned sofar: Try to repair your Word installation. It's under Help (= ?) 'Detect and Repair' Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mccarter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > Windows XP SP3 all updates > Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 > Microsoft Office 2000 all updates > > I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. > > Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? > > TIA > > Doug McCarter > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From alshml at ptd.net Sun Sep 28 11:32:16 2008 From: alshml at ptd.net (Al) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:32:16 -0400 Subject: TSGL: Office Icons References: <29185BF39E2049EFBD995F1BBD39FFCE@l6j9l2> Message-ID: <56D6DF81CB8B4C3983AE883D54D4F742@l6j9l2> Hey, problem solved. I followed Tilman's advice in the "Desktop problem (corruption?)" thread: Try to repair your Word installation. It's under Help (= ?) 'Detect and Repair' It worked for me. Thanks Tilman. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al" To: Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:33 PM Subject: TSGL: Office Icons > XP, SP3 > In "My Documents" all my Microsoft files have the same generic icon, > meaning- the file types are indistinguishable. I can't tell if a file is > Word, Excel, Power Point, etc. until I open the file. What can I do to > put the Word icons on Word files, and Excel icons on Excel files, etc. > > Thanks, > Al > From tbrandl2 at chello.at Sun Sep 28 20:37:09 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:37:09 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) References: <525980.71941.qm@web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Doug, Are there any files that can be written to that folder? Is there enough space left on this drive? Some more ideas... 1. check the folder's properties ... is write protection (read-only) ON? How about security 'permissions'? 2. after trying to save a doc to desktop, check the events - there may be an explanation as to what happens. 3. maybe anybody out there knows whether it's possible to delete this folder and have a new one created at next bootup ? (don't forget to backup the content before). 4. http://www.google.at/search?&q=cannot+save+to+desktop Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mccarter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > Thanks all for suggestions so far... > > Have uninstalled recent updates > Have repaired Word installation > Have uninstalled several recent misc. software installs > > Problem still persists > > Again, it is not just Word, but also Notepad that cannot be saved to the desktop, both can be saved to documents folder, both fail to save to a new folder created on desktop. > > I suspicion that the desktop is somehow corrupted. > > In my old Mac days (OS 8.1) you could rebuild the desktop, but I know of no way to do this with Windows XP. > > Any advice on this? > > Doug > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Tilman Brandl > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:46:47 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > > Doug, > > this may not have been mentioned sofar: > > Try to repair your Word installation. It's under Help (= ?) 'Detect and Repair' > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Mccarter" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM > Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > > >> Windows XP SP3 all updates >> Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 >> Microsoft Office 2000 all updates >> >> I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. >> >> Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? >> >> TIA >> >> Doug McCarter From cgangel at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 28 21:24:25 2008 From: cgangel at sbcglobal.net (Doug Mccarter) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Message-ID: <225374.1135.qm@web82103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My desktop functions normally for all other actions: Can create new folders Can move existing documents and files to and from the desktop to "My Documents" folder, etc. Can download files and save to the desktop. Only thing that doesn't work is "Save As" to the desktop from withing Word and Notepad. It does work to any other location, just not to the desktop. I am afraid to move the desktop folder to another location and reboot, because if it doesnt recreate it, I may not be able to get back to home base! Will try Google and see what it turns up. Thanks and don't give up on me. Doug ----- Original Message ---- From: Tilman Brandl To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:37:09 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) Doug, Are there any files that can be written to that folder? Is there enough space left on this drive? Some more ideas... 1. check the folder's properties ... is write protection (read-only) ON? How about security 'permissions'? 2. after trying to save a doc to desktop, check the events - there may be an explanation as to what happens. 3. maybe anybody out there knows whether it's possible to delete this folder and have a new one created at next bootup ? (don't forget to backup the content before). 4. http://www.google.at/search?&q=cannot+save+to+desktop Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mccarter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > Thanks all for suggestions so far... > > Have uninstalled recent updates > Have repaired Word installation > Have uninstalled several recent misc. software installs > > Problem still persists > > Again, it is not just Word, but also Notepad that cannot be saved to the desktop, both can be saved to documents folder, both fail to save to a new folder created on desktop. > > I suspicion that the desktop is somehow corrupted. > > In my old Mac days (OS 8.1) you could rebuild the desktop, but I know of no way to do this with Windows XP. > > Any advice on this? > > Doug > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Tilman Brandl > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:46:47 AM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > > Doug, > > this may not have been mentioned sofar: > > Try to repair your Word installation. It's under Help (= ?) 'Detect and Repair' > > Tilman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Mccarter" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:19 PM > Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > > >> Windows XP SP3 all updates >> Avast Antivirus & AVG Antispyware 7.5 >> Microsoft Office 2000 all updates >> >> I frequently copy info & article content from the web and paste into a Word doc for saving to the desktop. Suddenly when I try to save any word document or notepad document to the desktop. The wordprocessor (Word or Notepad) locks up and I have to force a program shutdown... no saved document. >> >> Anyone ever experience this or have a suggestion as to what caused it or how to fix it? >> >> TIA >> >> Doug McCarter _______________________________________________ Tech Support Guy Mailing List http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ From tbrandl2 at chello.at Mon Sep 29 05:34:05 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:34:05 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) References: <225374.1135.qm@web82103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Doug, one additional idea: Depending on how safe you feel with working at a somewhat technical level, you could try to copy your user profile and create a new - and uncorrupted - user. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811151/EN-US/ Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Mccarter" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 3:24 AM Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > My desktop functions normally for all other actions: > > Can create new folders > Can move existing documents and files to and from the desktop to "My Documents" folder, etc. > Can download files and save to the desktop. > > Only thing that doesn't work is "Save As" to the desktop from withing Word and Notepad. > It does work to any other location, just not to the desktop. > > I am afraid to move the desktop folder to another location and reboot, because if it doesnt recreate it, I may not be able to get back to home base! > > Will try Google and see what it turns up. > > Thanks and don't give up on me. > > Doug > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Tilman Brandl > To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 7:37:09 PM > Subject: Re: TSGL: Desktop problem (corruption?) > > Doug, > > Are there any files that can be written to that folder? Is there enough space left on this drive? > > Some more ideas... > 1. check the folder's properties ... is write protection (read-only) ON? How about security 'permissions'? > 2. after trying to save a doc to desktop, check the events - there may be an explanation as to what happens. > 3. maybe anybody out there knows whether it's possible to delete this folder and have a new one created at next bootup ? (don't forget to backup the content before). > 4. http://www.google.at/search?&q=cannot+save+to+desktop > > Tilman From misterclever at hotmail.com Mon Sep 29 12:30:18 2008 From: misterclever at hotmail.com (Geoff Glave) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:30:18 -0700 Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K? In-Reply-To: References: <47F935E0.10504@bonbon.net> Message-ID: Thanks everyone for your feedback. The background is that I was asked to do some tech support on a friend's Win2K machine that I thought might have been infected with malware. Turns out it was another problem, and that he had an up-to-date version of AVG installed that was catching malware, so were all good. [If it had been a malware problem I would have been looking for a user-friendly malware scanner to install.] Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver > From: tbrandl2 at chello.at> To: list at tsgserver.com> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:58:01 +0200> Subject: Re: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K?> > Geoff,> > I don't know whether you have got an answer to your request. In case you didn't ...> > I understand that you don't need an antivirus solution, righz. Generally I guess you could do a global search for security or anti-malware software since (as I believe) most programs that run on Win XP also do it under Win 2k. A good source might be Gizmo's http://www.techsupportalert.com/pc/security-tools.html - there just are no 'packages' mentioned as a category unfortunately. Better might be http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-adware-spyware-scumware-remover.htm> > See also http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > > Tilman> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Glave" > To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:48 PM> Subject: TSGL: Anti-Malware for Win2K?> > > > > > Can anyone suggest a good user-friendly anti-malware package for Windows 2000?> > > > Win Defender doesn't run on Win2K.> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > Cheers,> > Geoff in Vancouver, Canada> > > > _________________________________________________________________> > > > _______________________________________________> > Tech Support Guy Mailing List> > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/> >> > _______________________________________________> Tech Support Guy Mailing List> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _________________________________________________________________ From deepend at tpg.com.au Tue Sep 30 10:07:05 2008 From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington) Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:07:05 +1000 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus Message-ID: <4.3.2.20080930235349.00c71290@mail.tpg.com.au> Thanks to all those who helped with suggestions. I couldn't find any removal tools for this variant. As soon as you move any a-v tool onto the hard drive, it immediately gets corrupted so that it won't run. When I re-inserted the flash drive back into my own computer, Avira informed me that this named virus had modified the files on the flash drive with its own signature. Nasty. (And full marks to Avira). I finally reformatted my friend's C-Drive---still in FAT32. He was previously running W2K but neither of us had the W2K install disk. It's a very old HP computer, with only 125Mb RAM and about 300 Intel chip. I tried to install W98SE but it flatly refused to install. Despite telling my friend I'd be wasting my time trying to get XP Pro to install, I thought with nothing to lose, I'd have a go. I therefore reformatted and repartitioned the C-Drive to NTFS, and surprisingly the XP Pro installation passed the initial check stage and proceeded to copy the files to the HD. However, it gave a stop error as soon as it started the installation stage. After some googling, I discovered that the temporary Catroot folder (strange name) might be sticking point. I opened up the HD using a BartPE CD, renamed the Catroot folder, and ran the XP installation once again. This time it got past that point OK, but failed again a little later. By replacing various files (using BartPE again) from the BartPE disk at each failure point, I finally managed to force the XP installation to completion. I figured that by using the cutdown BartPE files where the full XP files wouldn't install, it might have a chance of succeeding. Surprise, surprise, XP Pro is now functioning perfectly on that old 300 computer, with its 5GB HD and 125Mb RAM (Is that a new World Record?). XP now takes up less than 1.3 Gb of space, which I guess must be due to using the cutdown BartPE files, though I can't see anything missing. Boot time is fine, and performance is excellent. I've cut it right back to bare bones, removing many services and setting it to maximise performance---no desktop picture, no screensaver, etc. My copy of XP is an OEM disk, so activation is not necessary. I've installed some basic software, and now handed it back to my friend, with a warning not to push it too hard and be careful in not having more than one app open at a time. With a bit of luck, he might get a few more months of use out of it, though the HD is noisier than a cartfull of chickens on the way to the abattoir. Now I'm wondering if it might be possible to do a complete XP installation by using the BartPE disk files instead of the native XP disk files. Maybe by creating a sort of home-made i386 folder containing the BartPE files, and pointing the installation to that? Has anyone tried it? I know there's XPLite and NLite, but I think they require XP to be installed first---then you use them to uninstall certain elements, which can be risky and will result in loss of some functions. I believe they won't help where XP won't install in the first place. Don Penlington Don Penlington From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland. Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website: http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html From hdavis1 at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 13:57:29 2008 From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:57:29 -0400 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20080930235349.00c71290@mail.tpg.com.au> References: <4.3.2.20080930235349.00c71290@mail.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <48E26889.2040702@gmail.com> Hey Don, I'm impressed! Please forward your personal toll free number for when I need help with a similar problem in the future. It strikes me though, that even editing with Notepad is going to require a lot of swapping with the page file because of the lack of RAM. H Davis Don Penlington wrote: > Thanks to all those who helped with suggestions. I couldn't find any > removal tools for this variant. > > As soon as you move any a-v tool onto the hard drive, it immediately gets > corrupted so that it won't run. When I re-inserted the flash drive back > into my own computer, Avira informed me that this named virus had modified > the files on the flash drive with its own signature. Nasty. (And full > marks to Avira). > > I finally reformatted my friend's C-Drive---still in FAT32. > > He was previously running W2K but neither of us had the W2K install disk. > It's a very old HP computer, with only 125Mb RAM and about 300 Intel chip. > > I tried to install W98SE but it flatly refused to install. > > Despite telling my friend I'd be wasting my time trying to get XP Pro to > install, I thought with nothing to lose, I'd have a go. I therefore > reformatted and repartitioned the C-Drive to NTFS, and surprisingly the XP > Pro installation passed the initial check stage and proceeded to copy the > files to the HD. However, it gave a stop error as soon as it started the > installation stage. After some googling, I discovered that the temporary > Catroot folder (strange name) might be sticking point. I opened up the HD > using a BartPE CD, renamed the Catroot folder, and ran the XP installation > once again. This time it got past that point OK, but failed again a little > later. By replacing various files (using BartPE again) from the BartPE disk > at each failure point, I finally managed to force the XP installation to > completion. I figured that by using the cutdown BartPE files where the full > XP files wouldn't install, it might have a chance of succeeding. > > Surprise, surprise, XP Pro is now functioning perfectly on that old 300 > computer, with its 5GB HD and 125Mb RAM (Is that a new World Record?). XP > now takes up less than 1.3 Gb of space, which I guess must be due to using > the cutdown BartPE files, though I can't see anything missing. Boot time is > fine, and performance is excellent. I've cut it right back to bare bones, > removing many services and setting it to maximise performance---no desktop > picture, no screensaver, etc. My copy of XP is an OEM disk, so activation > is not necessary. > > I've installed some basic software, and now handed it back to my friend, > with a warning not to push it too hard and be careful in not having more > than one app open at a time. With a bit of luck, he might get a few more > months of use out of it, though the HD is noisier than a cartfull of > chickens on the way to the abattoir. > > Now I'm wondering if it might be possible to do a complete XP installation > by using the BartPE disk files instead of the native XP disk files. Maybe > by creating a sort of home-made i386 folder containing the BartPE files, > and pointing the installation to that? > > Has anyone tried it? > > I know there's XPLite and NLite, but I think they require XP to be > installed first---then you use them to uninstall certain elements, which > can be risky and will result in loss of some functions. I believe they > won't help where XP won't install in the first place. > > Don Penlington > Don Penlington > From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland. > Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website: > http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Tech Support Guy Mailing List > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ > > -- H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com From misterclever at hotmail.com Tue Sep 30 14:33:50 2008 From: misterclever at hotmail.com (Geoff Glave) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:33:50 -0700 Subject: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus In-Reply-To: <48E26889.2040702@gmail.com> References: <4.3.2.20080930235349.00c71290@mail.tpg.com.au> <48E26889.2040702@gmail.com> Message-ID: Very informative post. I've got a 1 GHz Pentium III notebook with 256 Mb of RAM on it. Runs XP without any problems. It won't win any speed contests, but is certainly useable. Cheers, Geoff in Vancouver, Canada> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:57:29 -0400> From: hdavis1 at gmail.com> To: list at tsgserver.com> Subject: Re: TSGL: W32.VirutAX virus> > Hey Don,> > I'm impressed! Please forward your personal toll free number for when I > need help with a similar problem in the future.> > It strikes me though, that even editing with Notepad is going to require > a lot of swapping with the page file because of the lack of RAM.> > H Davis> > Don Penlington wrote:> > Thanks to all those who helped with suggestions. I couldn't find any > > removal tools for this variant.> >> > As soon as you move any a-v tool onto the hard drive, it immediately gets > > corrupted so that it won't run. When I re-inserted the flash drive back > > into my own computer, Avira informed me that this named virus had modified > > the files on the flash drive with its own signature. Nasty. (And full > > marks to Avira).> >> > I finally reformatted my friend's C-Drive---still in FAT32.> >> > He was previously running W2K but neither of us had the W2K install disk. > > It's a very old HP computer, with only 125Mb RAM and about 300 Intel chip.> >> > I tried to install W98SE but it flatly refused to install.> >> > Despite telling my friend I'd be wasting my time trying to get XP Pro to > > install, I thought with nothing to lose, I'd have a go. I therefore > > reformatted and repartitioned the C-Drive to NTFS, and surprisingly the XP > > Pro installation passed the initial check stage and proceeded to copy the > > files to the HD. However, it gave a stop error as soon as it started the > > installation stage. After some googling, I discovered that the temporary > > Catroot folder (strange name) might be sticking point. I opened up the HD > > using a BartPE CD, renamed the Catroot folder, and ran the XP installation > > once again. This time it got past that point OK, but failed again a little > > later. By replacing various files (using BartPE again) from the BartPE disk > > at each failure point, I finally managed to force the XP installation to > > completion. I figured that by using the cutdown BartPE files where the full > > XP files wouldn't install, it might have a chance of succeeding.> >> > Surprise, surprise, XP Pro is now functioning perfectly on that old 300 > > computer, with its 5GB HD and 125Mb RAM (Is that a new World Record?). XP > > now takes up less than 1.3 Gb of space, which I guess must be due to using > > the cutdown BartPE files, though I can't see anything missing. Boot time is > > fine, and performance is excellent. I've cut it right back to bare bones, > > removing many services and setting it to maximise performance---no desktop > > picture, no screensaver, etc. My copy of XP is an OEM disk, so activation > > is not necessary.> >> > I've installed some basic software, and now handed it back to my friend, > > with a warning not to push it too hard and be careful in not having more > > than one app open at a time. With a bit of luck, he might get a few more > > months of use out of it, though the HD is noisier than a cartfull of > > chickens on the way to the abattoir.> >> > Now I'm wondering if it might be possible to do a complete XP installation > > by using the BartPE disk files instead of the native XP disk files. Maybe > > by creating a sort of home-made i386 folder containing the BartPE files, > > and pointing the installation to that?> >> > Has anyone tried it?> >> > I know there's XPLite and NLite, but I think they require XP to be > > installed first---then you use them to uninstall certain elements, which > > can be risky and will result in loss of some functions. I believe they > > won't help where XP won't install in the first place.> >> > Don Penlington> > Don Penlington> > From the Beach at Surfers Paradise in sunny Queensland.> > Computer tutorials, local scenery, and other things at my website:> > http://users.tpg.com.au/deepend/index1.html> >> >> > _______________________________________________> > Tech Support Guy Mailing List> > http://www.tsgserver.com/list/> >> > > > -- > H Davis hdavis1 at gmail.com> > > _______________________________________________> Tech Support Guy Mailing List> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ _________________________________________________________________ From campbell1930 at charter.net Tue Sep 30 14:37:12 2008 From: campbell1930 at charter.net (Donald) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:37:12 -0500 Subject: TSGL: Windows Task Manager Message-ID: <000801c9232b$909b42f0$0501a8c0@foxworks> I believe I accidently clicked somewhere near the bottom of my task manager and the page changed to a window showing only "performance". There is no header (Windows Task Manager). No File, Options, View etc. No tabs (applications, processes etc) I have tried clicking all over what little remains of the window. I tried system restore. Win XP SP2 Thanks everyone. From tbrandl2 at chello.at Tue Sep 30 21:09:17 2008 From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 03:09:17 +0200 Subject: TSGL: Windows Task Manager References: <000801c9232b$909b42f0$0501a8c0@foxworks> Message-ID: Donald, in order to earn the title of a TUIU (Truly Unintimidated User) your desktop-actions should show a broader range of variation ;-)) Double-click anywhere on the grey (?) border space around that window and it will switch back to task manager. Cheers Tilman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald" To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:37 PM Subject: TSGL: Windows Task Manager >I believe I accidently clicked somewhere near the bottom of my task manager and the page changed to a window showing only "performance". > There is no header (Windows Task Manager). No File, Options, View etc. > No tabs (applications, processes etc) > > I have tried clicking all over what little remains of the window. > I tried system restore. > > Win XP SP2 > > Thanks everyone. 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