From leebunyard at comcast.net  Sun Feb  1 11:39:13 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:39:13 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Windows. Net Framework--Is This an Important Update??
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20090201094840.00c6a590@mail.tpg.com.au>
References: <4.3.2.20090201094840.00c6a590@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <4985D031.3030205@comcast.net>

Thanks much, Don.  Good explanation.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California


Don Penlington wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> Windows Update has been showing that there is an update rated 
>> "important" called Windows.Net Framework>>
>
>
> Depends what you do on your computer. The Net framework is a set of 
> files to enable programmers to write software without having to 
> "re-invent the wheel"--in other words, they don't have to include in 
> their programs a whole lot of common files which will already be on 
> your computer if you have the Net framewok.
>
> Net3 is the latest set of these files.  You will not need them if you 
> don't install any new software.
>
> Eventually, if you install a lot of new software, you will need them 
> if the programmers who wrote that program have used this framework. 
> Because it's new, there's probably not yet much software using it. But 
> that's sure to increase.
>
> So it really gets back to your computer. If you already have 
> everything you need, you won't need it.
>
> I haven't heard of any problems with it.
>
> Most PC magazines include it on their free disks. What I've done is to 
> have the setup files for Net3 sitting on my computer ready to install 
> if anything should need them. So far, nothing has.
>
> Don Penlington
>
>
>
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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 14:15:05 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 14:15:05 -0500
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <adc2940c0901312058h5e102a2en519101faf0fa39a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <49848343.1030406@comcast.net>	<4.3.2.20090201094840.00c6a590@mail.tpg.com.au>	<6.2.1.2.2.20090131204757.01f1a2c8@pop.earthlink.net>
	<adc2940c0901312058h5e102a2en519101faf0fa39a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4985F4B9.6050602@gmail.com>

Will,

What version of AVG do you have?

When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any 
more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade 
to v8.x and retry it.

I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
related to that issue.

HTH

H Davis

Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to personal
> preference.
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
>   
>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>
>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG dropped
>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>
>> Willard _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   

-- 
H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com


From leebunyard at comcast.net  Sun Feb  1 14:40:23 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:40:23 -0800
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <4985F4B9.6050602@gmail.com>
References: <49848343.1030406@comcast.net>	<4.3.2.20090201094840.00c6a590@mail.tpg.com.au>	<6.2.1.2.2.20090131204757.01f1a2c8@pop.earthlink.net>	<adc2940c0901312058h5e102a2en519101faf0fa39a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4985F4B9.6050602@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4985FAA7.1080303@comcast.net>

I couldn't get the free AVG AV v8.xx to work properly on my desktop 
running Vista Home Premium Edition but it works fine on my laptop 
running XP.  I have a similar problem with Spybot Search and Destroy 
which I've used for over 10 years.  It won't update properly on the pc 
running Vista, I have to manually do the update at the website, but it 
continues to work fine with the laptop running XP.   Go figure.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California 

H Davis wrote:
> Will,
>
> What version of AVG do you have?
>
> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
> that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x 
> any more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd 
> upgrade to v8.x and retry it.
>
> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
> automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
> update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
> weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
> related to that issue.
>
> HTH
>
> H Davis
>
> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to 
>> personal
>> preference.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn 
>> <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti 
>>> spyware
>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>
>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG 
>>> dropped
>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>
>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>

From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 15:00:44 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 15:00:44 -0500
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <4985FAA7.1080303@comcast.net>
References: <49848343.1030406@comcast.net>	<4.3.2.20090201094840.00c6a590@mail.tpg.com.au>	<6.2.1.2.2.20090131204757.01f1a2c8@pop.earthlink.net>	<adc2940c0901312058h5e102a2en519101faf0fa39a8@mail.gmail.com>	<4985F4B9.6050602@gmail.com>
	<4985FAA7.1080303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4985FF6C.5010905@gmail.com>

Lee,

There's nothing to figure; that's standard operation for Vista. My 
comments pertained to XP SP2 which I should have mentioned.

We have a Dell laptop that uses Vista Home Premium and it seems to run 
AVG 8 OK but it's not mine so I may not be getting full reports on any 
problems.

H Davis

Lee Bunyard wrote:
> I couldn't get the free AVG AV v8.xx to work properly on my desktop 
> running Vista Home Premium Edition but it works fine on my laptop 
> running XP.  I have a similar problem with Spybot Search and Destroy 
> which I've used for over 10 years.  It won't update properly on the pc 
> running Vista, I have to manually do the update at the website, but it 
> continues to work fine with the laptop running XP.   Go figure.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
> H Davis wrote:
>> Will,
>>
>> What version of AVG do you have?
>>
>> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
>> that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x 
>> any more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd 
>> upgrade to v8.x and retry it.
>>
>> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
>> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
>> automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
>> update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
>> weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
>> related to that issue.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> H Davis
>>
>> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to 
>>> personal
>>> preference.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn 
>>> <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti 
>>>> spyware
>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's 
>>>> definitions.
>>>>
>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG 
>>>> dropped
>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>

-- 
H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com



From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Sun Feb  1 15:30:29 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (willard seehorn)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:30:29 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
Message-ID: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.

At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site & discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product now...

So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?


-----Original Message-----
>From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>Will,
>
>What version of AVG do you have?
>
>When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
>that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any 
>more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade 
>to v8.x and retry it.
>
>I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
>months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
>automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
>update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
>weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
>related to that issue.
>
>HTH
>
>H Davis
>
>Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to personal
>> preference.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>
>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG dropped
>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>
>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>
>-- 
>H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/



From csmdcs at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 16:17:29 2009
From: csmdcs at gmail.com (Don Searles)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:17:29 -0600
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <72C7F8D498204B23A23FAFC2D9C45C27@Don>



I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware, both free. I believe they are fantastic programs.

Don. 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: willard seehorn 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.

At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site & discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product now...

So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?


-----Original Message-----
>From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>Will,
>
>What version of AVG do you have?
>
>When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
>that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any 
>more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade 
>to v8.x and retry it.
>
>I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
>months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
>automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
>update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
>weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
>related to that issue.
>
>HTH
>
>H Davis
>
>Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to personal
>> preference.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>   
>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>
>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG dropped
>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>
>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>
>-- 
>H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/


_______________________________________________
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From embitt at westnet.com.au  Sun Feb  1 16:24:37 2009
From: embitt at westnet.com.au (Eric and Merna Bitter)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:24:37 +1000
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>

SUPERAntiSpyware at http://www.superantispyware.com/

I use it, Spybot, and AVG 7.5 and previously used Ad-Aware.

I removed Ad-Aware some months ago when there were big problems with
updating definitions.

I have AVG 7.5 because I'm still using 98SE.  Last year the death date for
7.5 support was postponed from (I think) sometime in May to end of August
and then to 31st December 2008.  I had resigned myself to the fact that I
would have to move to XP or another anti-virus program by then, but 7.5 has
continued to update daily (knock wood -- do I risk having it end because I
write this?).

Merna


----- Original Message -----
From: "willard seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.

At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was
asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site &
discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being
distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product
now...

So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?


-----Original Message-----
>From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>Will,
>
>What version of AVG do you have?
>
>When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion
>that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any
>more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade
>to v8.x and retry it.
>
>I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few
>months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its
>automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would
>update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of
>weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't
>related to that issue.
>
>HTH
>
>H Davis
>
>Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to
personal
>> preference.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn
<wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>
>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG
dropped
>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>
>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
>H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>
>_______________________________________________
>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/


_______________________________________________
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No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 2009-01-30
5:31 PM





From leebunyard at comcast.net  Mon Feb  2 02:30:53 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:30:53 -0800
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>
Message-ID: <4986A12D.9010902@comcast.net>

I gave up on Ad-Adware also, it wouldn't update definitions properly on 
my desktop pc running Vista.   It works fine on the laptop running XP.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

Eric and Merna Bitter wrote:
> SUPERAntiSpyware at http://www.superantispyware.com/
>
> I use it, Spybot, and AVG 7.5 and previously used Ad-Aware.
>
> I removed Ad-Aware some months ago when there were big problems with
> updating definitions.
>
> I have AVG 7.5 because I'm still using 98SE.  Last year the death date for
> 7.5 support was postponed from (I think) sometime in May to end of August
> and then to 31st December 2008.  I had resigned myself to the fact that I
> would have to move to XP or another anti-virus program by then, but 7.5 has
> continued to update daily (knock wood -- do I risk having it end because I
> write this?).
>
> Merna
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "willard seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>
> I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.
>
> At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was
> asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site &
> discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being
> distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product
> now...
>
> So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> What version of AVG do you have?
>>
>> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion
>> that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any
>> more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade
>> to v8.x and retry it.
>>
>> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few
>> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its
>> automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would
>> update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of
>> weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't
>> related to that issue.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> H Davis
>>
>> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>     
>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to
>>>       
> personal
>   
>>> preference.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn
>>>       
> <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>   
>>>       
>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>>
>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG
>>>>         
> dropped
>   
>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1926 - Release Date: 2009-01-30
> 5:31 PM
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 02/01/09 18:02:00
>
>   

From leebunyard at comcast.net  Mon Feb  2 02:34:26 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 23:34:26 -0800
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4986A202.3090404@comcast.net>

AVG free AV 8.xx includes their built-in anti-spyware program.  AVG 
discontinued supporting the standalone anti-spyware program a month or 
two back.  But if you are using AVG 8.xx, you have it.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

willard seehorn wrote:
> I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.
>
> At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site & discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product now...
>
> So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>>
>> Will,
>>
>> What version of AVG do you have?
>>
>> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion 
>> that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any 
>> more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade 
>> to v8.x and retry it.
>>
>> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few 
>> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its 
>> automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would 
>> update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of 
>> weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't 
>> related to that issue.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> H Davis
>>
>> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>     
>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to personal
>>> preference.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti spyware
>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>>
>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG dropped
>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> -- 
>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 02/01/09 18:02:00
>
>   

From ian at iarp.ca  Mon Feb  2 02:46:08 2009
From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:46:08 -0500
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <4986A202.3090404@comcast.net>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4986A202.3090404@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <adc2940c0902012346j4ba6e75fsfada43095b28abfe@mail.gmail.com>

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure AVG was bought out by another
company some year(s) ago.
And ever since then my speculation that there support for the free versions
being very very low(obviously pushing for paid version) is true 100%., if
the company never was bought out, Then i don't know what in the world
they've been up to.

The story's either they were bought out, or a major change happened and then
the free service just went down. And ever since then, i switched to Avast
and never looked back, the ability to scan and detect a bad file before the
download beings just blows my mind.

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Lee Bunyard <leebunyard at comcast.net> wrote:

> AVG free AV 8.xx includes their built-in anti-spyware program.  AVG
> discontinued supporting the standalone anti-spyware program a month or two
> back.  But if you are using AVG 8.xx, you have it.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
>
> willard seehorn wrote:
>
>> I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.
>>
>> At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was
>> asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site &
>> discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being
>> distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product
>> now...
>>
>> So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>>> From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>>> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>>>
>>> Will,
>>>
>>> What version of AVG do you have?
>>>
>>> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion that
>>> you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any more.
>>> Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade to v8.x
>>> and retry it.
>>>
>>> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few
>>> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its automatic
>>> update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would update properly.
>>> This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of weeks then cleared up.
>>> This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't related to that issue.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> H Davis
>>>
>>> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to
>>>> personal
>>>> preference.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <
>>>> wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti
>>>>> spyware
>>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG
>>>>> dropped
>>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>>
>>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database:
>> 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 02/01/09 18:02:00
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



-- 
Thanks
Ian R-P
Patience is a virtue.

From deepend at tpg.com.au  Mon Feb  2 02:55:27 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:55:27 +1000
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <72C7F8D498204B23A23FAFC2D9C45C27@Don>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>

Don wrote:
>I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware>>


Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now it 
tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.

I've found that since ditching AVG and ZoneAlarmPro, and running free Avira 
instead, Avira seems to keep spyware out as well as a-v.  And I now don't 
seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough.

Avira uses far less resources than either AVG or ZA, and I notice a 
definite improvement in performance as well as security. I've been using it 
now for 2 years.

I just use Malwarebytes, Spybot, Adaware, and A-Squared as occasional 
scanners, but they never seem to find anything other than the odd tracking 
cookie since I've had Avira. Although there's a paid version of Avira, and 
you get a nag screen imploring you to update to the "better protection" of 
the pro version every time it updates, I believe that the free version 
gives the same effective protection for a stand-alone computer.


Don Penlington



From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Mon Feb  2 06:24:25 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:24:25 +0100
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <78b101c98529$a00c3e00$0201a8c0@til4200>

Hello,

I'm using Avira free myself since maybe 8-9 months and find it very helpful and more than sufficient for my desktop. Despite the nag-screen which pops up each day, and despite some false positives that it finds now and then.

OTOH I would be careful re. Avira's spyware-blocking functionality. From what I know it doesn't have any !!!
See http://www.free-av.de/en/products/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html for the details on free versus paid premium versions, the free one doesn't include AntiPhishing, AntiSpyware, AntiRootkit etc.

> I now don't seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough <

Well, this may work for you, but I for one would never really recommend relying on the XP firewall alone. True, in the past, after many years of using AVG, I have worked with XP's built in FW myself for several month, without problems. But (if I'm not mistaken) one should know that it only protects from INCOMING threats, not from stuff being sent out from your PC. Therefore I have switched to Sunbelt's free FW, which is not too strong but able to block outgoing threats.

Generally what one decides to use as protection will depend on how one uses the PC, and what additional protection may be present (here it's a router + hardware firewall).

Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Penlington" <deepend at tpg.com.au>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


> Don wrote:
>>I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware>>
> 
> 
> Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now it 
> tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.
> 
> I've found that since ditching AVG and ZoneAlarmPro, and running free Avira 
> instead, Avira seems to keep spyware out as well as a-v.  And I now don't 
> seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough.
> 
> Avira uses far less resources than either AVG or ZA, and I notice a 
> definite improvement in performance as well as security. I've been using it 
> now for 2 years.
> 
> I just use Malwarebytes, Spybot, Adaware, and A-Squared as occasional 
> scanners, but they never seem to find anything other than the odd tracking 
> cookie since I've had Avira. Although there's a paid version of Avira, and 
> you get a nag screen imploring you to update to the "better protection" of 
> the pro version every time it updates, I believe that the free version 
> gives the same effective protection for a stand-alone computer.
> 
> 
> Don Penlington



From HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de  Mon Feb  2 06:52:06 2009
From: HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Heidi_Schr=F6der?=)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:52:06 +0100
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<78b101c98529$a00c3e00$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <B57246A7B9A0487D9FD1C3DBC1AFDF0A@HeidisPC>

Hello Tilmann,

with a few breaks to try out AVG and Avast, I am using Avira free since I 
started using the internet. They had a different name (AntiVir alone) but 
always had the red label with the white umbrella). And since a while they 
actually offer the Rootkit Search - look under Scanner - Suche (Search) and 
you will find it in the right side to check a Rootkit Search at start of 
general search.

As to Antispyware maybe the settings under Allgemeines - Erweiterte 
Gefahrenkategorien (General - Extended Danger-categories) can be taken as 
such!?

have a nice day everybody
Heidi from snowy Berlin

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tilman Brandl" <tbrandl2 at chello.at>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:24 PM
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware

> Hello,
>
> I'm using Avira free myself since maybe 8-9 months and find it very 
> helpful and more than sufficient for my desktop. Despite the nag-screen 
> which pops up each day, and despite some false positives that it finds now 
> and then.
>
> OTOH I would be careful re. Avira's spyware-blocking functionality. From 
> what I know it doesn't have any !!!
> See 
> http://www.free-av.de/en/products/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html 
> for the details on free versus paid premium versions, the free one doesn't 
> include AntiPhishing, AntiSpyware, AntiRootkit etc.
>
>> I now don't seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be 
>> enough <
>
> Well, this may work for you, but I for one would never really recommend 
> relying on the XP firewall alone. True, in the past, after many years of 
> using AVG, I have worked with XP's built in FW myself for several month, 
> without problems. But (if I'm not mistaken) one should know that it only 
> protects from INCOMING threats, not from stuff being sent out from your 
> PC. Therefore I have switched to Sunbelt's free FW, which is not too 
> strong but able to block outgoing threats.
>
> Generally what one decides to use as protection will depend on how one 
> uses the PC, and what additional protection may be present (here it's a 
> router + hardware firewall).
>
> Tilman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Penlington" <deepend at tpg.com.au>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>
>> Don wrote:
>>>I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware>>
>>
>>
>> Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now 
>> it
>> tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.
>>
>> I've found that since ditching AVG and ZoneAlarmPro, and running free 
>> Avira
>> instead, Avira seems to keep spyware out as well as a-v.  And I now don't
>> seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough.
>>
>> Avira uses far less resources than either AVG or ZA, and I notice a
>> definite improvement in performance as well as security. I've been using 
>> it
>> now for 2 years.
>>
>> I just use Malwarebytes, Spybot, Adaware, and A-Squared as occasional
>> scanners, but they never seem to find anything other than the odd 
>> tracking
>> cookie since I've had Avira. Although there's a paid version of Avira, 
>> and
>> you get a nag screen imploring you to update to the "better protection" 
>> of
>> the pro version every time it updates, I believe that the free version
>> gives the same effective protection for a stand-alone computer.
>>
>>
>> Don Penlington
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/ 



From csmdcs at gmail.com  Mon Feb  2 08:10:16 2009
From: csmdcs at gmail.com (Don Searles)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:10:16 -0600
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <D254905D54FB4CAC9C337BE362CE19BD@Don>


Don wrote:
>Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now it 
tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.>>

I hate to ask, but are you sure you didn't "upgrade" instead of "update". The reason I ask is I have the latest SUPERAntiSpyware Version 4.25.1012 and just updated and ran it with no problem.

Don.  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Don Penlington 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


Don wrote:
>I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware>>


Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now it 
tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.

I've found that since ditching AVG and ZoneAlarmPro, and running free Avira 
instead, Avira seems to keep spyware out as well as a-v.  And I now don't 
seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough.

Avira uses far less resources than either AVG or ZA, and I notice a 
definite improvement in performance as well as security. I've been using it 
now for 2 years.

I just use Malwarebytes, Spybot, Adaware, and A-Squared as occasional 
scanners, but they never seem to find anything other than the odd tracking 
cookie since I've had Avira. Although there's a paid version of Avira, and 
you get a nag screen imploring you to update to the "better protection" of 
the pro version every time it updates, I believe that the free version 
gives the same effective protection for a stand-alone computer.


Don Penlington


_______________________________________________
Tech Support Guy Mailing List
http://www.tsgserver.com/list/

From deepend at tpg.com.au  Mon Feb  2 09:09:59 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:09:59 +1000
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <78b101c98529$a00c3e00$0201a8c0@til4200>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090202233930.00c6aa58@mail.tpg.com.au>

Tilman wrote:
>  details on free versus paid premium versions,>>


That seems to me to only be a ploy to get you to buy. It would hardly make 
sense for them to maintain 2 separate databases. It wouldn't surprise me if 
in fact the same database is used by both versions.

With AVG I used to get a few trojans and assorted spyware. With Avira I 
can't recall seeing any in about 2 years.

Don Penlington 



From deepend at tpg.com.au  Mon Feb  2 09:22:03 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:22:03 +1000
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <D254905D54FB4CAC9C337BE362CE19BD@Don>
References: <4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090203001527.00c7a2a0@mail.tpg.com.au>

Don wrote:
>but are you sure you didn't "upgrade" instead of "update". The reason I 
>ask is I have the latest SUPERAntiSpyware Version 4.25.1012 and just 
>updated and ran it with no problem.>>


When I updated, it said there was a new version and offered to update, so I 
did so. It didn't say anything about payment, so I assumed it was updating 
the free version.

After that, it told me it was no longer free. So I ditched it. Not because 
it's no good (it is good), but because with Avira it doesn't seem to be 
needed. It hasn't found anything in 2 years.

Don Penlington




From leebunyard at comcast.net  Mon Feb  2 11:40:11 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 08:40:11 -0800
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <adc2940c0902012346j4ba6e75fsfada43095b28abfe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<4986A202.3090404@comcast.net>
	<adc2940c0902012346j4ba6e75fsfada43095b28abfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <498721EB.4010301@comcast.net>

I switched to Avast also after I couldn't get AVG 8.xx to run properly 
on my desktop running Vista.  Avast works great, no complaints.  I'm 
still running AVG 8.xx on my laptop running XP--it works fine and 
running the two products on different pc's gives me a chance to compare 
them.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
> Correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm pretty sure AVG was bought out by another
> company some year(s) ago.
> And ever since then my speculation that there support for the free versions
> being very very low(obviously pushing for paid version) is true 100%., if
> the company never was bought out, Then i don't know what in the world
> they've been up to.
>
> The story's either they were bought out, or a major change happened and then
> the free service just went down. And ever since then, i switched to Avast
> and never looked back, the ability to scan and detect a bad file before the
> download beings just blows my mind.
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:34 AM, Lee Bunyard <leebunyard at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> AVG free AV 8.xx includes their built-in anti-spyware program.  AVG
>> discontinued supporting the standalone anti-spyware program a month or two
>> back.  But if you are using AVG 8.xx, you have it.
>> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
>>
>> willard seehorn wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.
>>>
>>> At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was
>>> asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site &
>>> discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being
>>> distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product
>>> now...
>>>
>>> So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>>>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>>>>
>>>> Will,
>>>>
>>>> What version of AVG do you have?
>>>>
>>>> When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion that
>>>> you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any more.
>>>> Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade to v8.x
>>>> and retry it.
>>>>
>>>> I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few
>>>> months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its automatic
>>>> update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would update properly.
>>>> This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of weeks then cleared up.
>>>> This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't related to that issue.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>>
>>>> H Davis
>>>>
>>>> Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to
>>>>> personal
>>>>> preference.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn <
>>>>> wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti
>>>>>> spyware
>>>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG
>>>>>> dropped
>>>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> --
>>>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database:
>>> 270.10.16/1929 - Release Date: 02/01/09 18:02:00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   

From madfeese at sisp.net  Mon Feb  2 13:35:31 2009
From: madfeese at sisp.net (Dave and Marcia)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:35:31 -0800
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>
Message-ID: <D36035D86B9F4CBEA2A623AD2038A2FD@HPNEW>

I use the FREE AVAST 4.8 Home Edition on 2 Win98SE
PC's and also on a new VISTA PC.  Have never used AVG.

Dave Feese
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eric and Merna Bitter" <embitt at westnet.com.au>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


> SUPERAntiSpyware at http://www.superantispyware.com/
>
> I use it, Spybot, and AVG 7.5 and previously used Ad-Aware.
>
> I removed Ad-Aware some months ago when there were big problems with
> updating definitions.
>
> I have AVG 7.5 because I'm still using 98SE.  Last year the death date for
> 7.5 support was postponed from (I think) sometime in May to end of August
> and then to 31st December 2008.  I had resigned myself to the fact that I
> would have to move to XP or another anti-virus program by then, but 7.5 
> has
> continued to update daily (knock wood -- do I risk having it end because I
> write this?).
>
> Merna
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "willard seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 6:30 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>
>
> I'm running AVG anti-virus 8.x & having no problems with it.
>
> At one time AVG offered a free anti-spyware program, that is what I was
> asking about. I did follow the link someone sent to the AVG free site &
> discovered the announcement that AVG anti-spyware was no longer being
> distributed, supported, updated, but that I could buy the same product
> now...
>
> So back to spybot search & destroy. Any other recommendations from anyone?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: H Davis <hdavis1 at gmail.com>
>>Sent: Feb 1, 2009 2:15 PM
>>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>>Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
>>
>>Will,
>>
>>What version of AVG do you have?
>>
>>When they changed from v7.x to 8.x I think there was some discussion
>>that you MUST upgrade because they weren't going to support the v7.x any
>>more. Not sure about this, but if you have an older version I'd upgrade
>>to v8.x and retry it.
>>
>>I have v8.0.176 and currently have no update problems. However, a few
>>months ago I went through a period where it would try to do its
>>automatic update but fail to connect. If I retried manually it would
>>update properly. This affected 2 machines and lasted for a couple of
>>weeks then cleared up. This all happen long after v8.x so it wasn't
>>related to that issue.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>H Davis
>>
>>Ian Ramsey-Planck wrote:
>>> http://free.avg.com/ althought i'd recommend www.avast.com. Down to
> personal
>>> preference.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Willard Seehorn
> <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Booted my laptop (first time in a while) the other day. AVG anti 
>>>> spyware
>>>> complained that it couldn't find the server to update it's definitions.
>>>>
>>>> Went to AVG's site, couldn't find mention of the program. Has AVG
> dropped
>>>> the free version? If so, what recommendations for a replacement?
>>>>
>>>> Willard _______________________________________________
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>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>
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> Checked by AVG.
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> 2009-01-30
> 5:31 PM
>
>
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From orf at internode.on.net  Tue Feb  3 01:34:44 2009
From: orf at internode.on.net (Orf Bartrop)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:34:44 +1100
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
In-Reply-To: <D36035D86B9F4CBEA2A623AD2038A2FD@HPNEW>
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<001701c984b3$85161880$0401a8c0@number12>
	<D36035D86B9F4CBEA2A623AD2038A2FD@HPNEW>
Message-ID: <4987E584.1070707@internode.on.net>

I have an HP TouchSmart PC running Vista and I use Avira for anti virus 
detection and Hitman for spyware etc.
Hitman uses a different approach to detecting spyware and runs much 
quicker than Spybot, Adaware and other antispyware software.



From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Tue Feb  3 06:20:27 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:20:27 +0100
Subject: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
References: <19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><19784651.1233520229244.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4.3.2.20090202174319.00c7bd18@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<78b101c98529$a00c3e00$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <797f01c985f1$6f141750$0201a8c0@til4200>

Hi,

...to Heidi:
I still assume that there's a noted difference between the free and the pay version of Avira, mainly based on what their website says. As to the rootkits - I have to correct what I said in my earlier message: Rootkits that didn't have an opportunity to hide or camouflage themselves inside/under the system, may indeed be detected like a virus, based on signatures. That's probably what the free version does, thanks for pointing this out. But still, it's a rather limited approach compared to true rootkit detection which uses other much more complicated mechanisms.

... and to Don:
as to a single common database for the free AND the premium version (as Don assumes)  ... I just don't know. Yes, I guess it is possible, but does this mean it is true ? And also, some of the advanced features don't just rely on a database like that being used for virus recognition. So - is it only "a ploy to get you to buy" ? To some extent it may look like it, that's true...

Tilman
...using the free version of Avira

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tilman Brandl" <tbrandl2 at chello.at>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware


> Hello,
> 
> I'm using Avira free myself since maybe 8-9 months and find it very helpful and more than sufficient for my desktop. Despite the nag-screen which pops up each day, and despite some false positives that it finds now and then.
> 
> OTOH I would be careful re. Avira's spyware-blocking functionality. >From what I know it doesn't have any !!!
> See http://www.free-av.de/en/products/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html for the details on free versus paid premium versions, the free one doesn't include AntiPhishing, AntiSpyware, AntiRootkit etc.
> 
>> I now don't seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough <
> 
> Well, this may work for you, but I for one would never really recommend relying on the XP firewall alone. True, in the past, after many years of using AVG, I have worked with XP's built in FW myself for several month, without problems. But (if I'm not mistaken) one should know that it only protects from INCOMING threats, not from stuff being sent out from your PC. Therefore I have switched to Sunbelt's free FW, which is not too strong but able to block outgoing threats.
> 
> Generally what one decides to use as protection will depend on how one uses the PC, and what additional protection may be present (here it's a router + hardware firewall).
> 
> Tilman
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Penlington" <deepend at tpg.com.au>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: AVG anti spyware
> 
> 
>> Don wrote:
>>>I am also using Malwarebytes' Anti-spyware and SUPERAntiSpyware>>
>> 
>> 
>> Don't update your Superantispyware to the latest version. I did, and now it 
>> tells me it's no longer free and won't work. So I've now ditched it.
>> 
>> I've found that since ditching AVG and ZoneAlarmPro, and running free Avira 
>> instead, Avira seems to keep spyware out as well as a-v.  And I now don't 
>> seem to need ZoneAlarm, the native XP firewall seems to be enough.
>> 
>> Avira uses far less resources than either AVG or ZA, and I notice a 
>> definite improvement in performance as well as security. I've been using it 
>> now for 2 years.
>> 
>> I just use Malwarebytes, Spybot, Adaware, and A-Squared as occasional 
>> scanners, but they never seem to find anything other than the odd tracking 
>> cookie since I've had Avira. Although there's a paid version of Avira, and 
>> you get a nag screen imploring you to update to the "better protection" of 
>> the pro version every time it updates, I believe that the free version 
>> gives the same effective protection for a stand-alone computer.
>> 
>> 
>> Don Penlington
> 
> 
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From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Tue Feb  3 20:33:12 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:33:12 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090203203241.01f98950@pop.earthlink.net>

Saw this program today for $10 today. I'm lazy enough to like the idea of 
the computer finding needed driver upgrades -- if the program works well.

Anyone have any experience with it?

TIA

Willard

From hasanat at sparkbd.net  Tue Feb  3 22:15:15 2009
From: hasanat at sparkbd.net (A Hasanat Khan)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:15:15 +0600
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20090203203241.01f98950@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C19B61C64E6C40BAA8DBA75326942E85@micron>

Try DriverMax, it is free and works quite well.

Hasanat
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 7:33 AM
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius


> Saw this program today for $10 today. I'm lazy enough to like the idea of 
> the computer finding needed driver upgrades -- if the program works well.
>
> Anyone have any experience with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Willard
> _______________________________________________
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From HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de  Wed Feb  4 01:56:05 2009
From: HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Heidi_Schr=F6der?=)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:56:05 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20090203203241.01f98950@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <09B6244FC9764E21BAAAFD8279AFF595@HeidisPC>

Hi Willard,

just tried the "test version" and it found 21 old or not correct working 
drivers but would not do anything further without buying the programme. I 
tried all the device manager entries that were told to need new drivers and 
Windows did not find a single one not working correct and in all cases told 
they all were the most recent drivers... so don't know who is correct, but 
know for sure, a test version of a programme that does not even let me have 
it solve one problem at least but just goes up to finding the problems is no 
test version in my eye - it could as well be like the Antivirus- or 
Anti-Spyware programmes that tell your computer has  a virus and spyware and 
actually that is not true. So I am not really impressed and would definitely 
not spend the money even if it is not much. But maybe someone else will tell 
about experiences with the programme and not just the test version,

have a nice day
Heidi


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:33 AM
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius

> Saw this program today for $10 today. I'm lazy enough to like the idea of 
> the computer finding needed driver upgrades -- if the program works well.
>
> Anyone have any experience with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Willard 



From bo.maurin at ericsson.com  Wed Feb  4 04:18:21 2009
From: bo.maurin at ericsson.com (Bo Maurin)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:18:21 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
In-Reply-To: <09B6244FC9764E21BAAAFD8279AFF595@HeidisPC>
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20090203203241.01f98950@pop.earthlink.net>
	<09B6244FC9764E21BAAAFD8279AFF595@HeidisPC>
Message-ID: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>

There are some freeware which do the same thing. Haven't tried any of these myself yet. Could be an option for you.

It would be great if we could share experiences in this area, as drivers update are in most cases a mess to handle.

RadarSync at http://www.radarsync.com/ 
Driver Max at http://www.drivermax.com/ 
Update Star at http://www.updatestar.com/ 
Software Update Monitor at http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?sumo 

Regards / Bo

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Heidi Schr?der
Sent: den 4 februari 2009 07:56
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius

Hi Willard,

just tried the "test version" and it found 21 old or not correct working drivers but would not do anything further without buying the programme. I tried all the device manager entries that were told to need new drivers and Windows did not find a single one not working correct and in all cases told they all were the most recent drivers... so don't know who is correct, but know for sure, a test version of a programme that does not even let me have it solve one problem at least but just goes up to finding the problems is no test version in my eye - it could as well be like the Antivirus- or Anti-Spyware programmes that tell your computer has  a virus and spyware and actually that is not true. So I am not really impressed and would definitely not spend the money even if it is not much. But maybe someone else will tell about experiences with the programme and not just the test version,

have a nice day
Heidi


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:33 AM
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius

> Saw this program today for $10 today. I'm lazy enough to like the idea 
> of the computer finding needed driver upgrades -- if the program works well.
>
> Anyone have any experience with it?
>
> TIA
>
> Willard


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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 13:30:39 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:30:39 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
In-Reply-To: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
References: <6.2.1.2.2.20090203203241.01f98950@pop.earthlink.net>	<09B6244FC9764E21BAAAFD8279AFF595@HeidisPC>
	<314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <4989DECF.6070300@gmail.com>

My inclination would be to skip it unless you're having a specific 
driver problem or a security issue. If it's not broken don't fix it. Why 
go looking for trouble.

H Davis

Bo Maurin wrote:
> There are some freeware which do the same thing. Haven't tried any of these myself yet. Could be an option for you.
>
> It would be great if we could share experiences in this area, as drivers update are in most cases a mess to handle.
>
> RadarSync at http://www.radarsync.com/ 
> Driver Max at http://www.drivermax.com/ 
> Update Star at http://www.updatestar.com/ 
> Software Update Monitor at http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?sumo 
>
> Regards / Bo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Heidi Schr?der
> Sent: den 4 februari 2009 07:56
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
>
> Hi Willard,
>
> just tried the "test version" and it found 21 old or not correct working drivers but would not do anything further without buying the programme. I tried all the device manager entries that were told to need new drivers and Windows did not find a single one not working correct and in all cases told they all were the most recent drivers... so don't know who is correct, but know for sure, a test version of a programme that does not even let me have it solve one problem at least but just goes up to finding the problems is no test version in my eye - it could as well be like the Antivirus- or Anti-Spyware programmes that tell your computer has  a virus and spyware and actually that is not true. So I am not really impressed and would definitely not spend the money even if it is not much. But maybe someone else will tell about experiences with the programme and not just the test version,
>
> have a nice day
> Heidi
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:33 AM
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
>
>   
>> Saw this program today for $10 today. I'm lazy enough to like the idea 
>> of the computer finding needed driver upgrades -- if the program works well.
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with it?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Willard
>>     
>
>
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>   

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From colinsw at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 14:25:11 2009
From: colinsw at gmail.com (Colin)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:25:11 +1300
Subject: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius
In-Reply-To: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
Message-ID: <4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>


Hi

I can say from my own personal experience that RaderSync is rubbish. I used
it for almost a year and over that time spend many wasted hours removing
various driver updates by hand, and with the help of their technical support
people. These drivers were incorrectly identified by their system as being
out of date and so called 'updates' were installed, only to find that they
were for the wrong model motherboard, drive controller and various other
system level devices.

Then to add insult to injury, when I asked them to cancel and refund they
refused and said I had to wait until renewal time.

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Bo Maurin
Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2009 10:18 p.m.
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Avanquest Driver Genius

There are some freeware which do the same thing. Haven't tried any of these
myself yet. Could be an option for you.

It would be great if we could share experiences in this area, as drivers
update are in most cases a mess to handle.

RadarSync at http://www.radarsync.com/
Driver Max at http://www.drivermax.com/ Update Star at
http://www.updatestar.com/ Software Update Monitor at
http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?sumo





From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Sun Feb  8 04:07:36 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:07:36 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Fires
Message-ID: <4C9BE39DCE6B4B1FB1CED333D3BDA20C@johnsp2>

Hope our Aussie friends are all OK. Thinking of you and wishing for the best.

John
Od/G

From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 17:08:07 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:08:07 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Windows. Net Framework--Is This an Important Update??
Message-ID: <498F57C7.9050609@gmail.com>

Hi Lee,

Re your thread back around 2/1.

I get the Windows Secrets newsletter and the latest issue contained this 
info on the .net updates:

    *Just say no to this .NET 3.5 update *

    The most recent batch of updates from Microsoft included one for my
    favorite Windows component: .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. Now, if you
    could see me, you'd notice the big smirk on my face. That's because
    patches for the .NET platform are definitely not among my favorite
    things.

    The fix described in KB 951847
    <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847>
    is pushed to any PC that has .NET 2.0 or greater. If you're offered
    this patch --- regardless of whether you have .NET 3.5 installed ---
    you will end up with .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5 SP1.
    The only application --- or platform, in this case --- on my system
    that uses .NET 3.5 is Small Business Server 2008. QuickBooks 2008
    and 2009 still use .NET 2.0.

    Personally, I'm not pleased that this .NET 2.0 patch has been
    bundled into a .NET 3.5 upgrade. It feels a bit too much like bait
    and switch to me.

    How can you determine which applications use which versions of .NET?
    Microsoft states that you can substitute .NET 3.5 for all versions
    of .NET down to Version 1. In reality, you can't.

    I support line-of-business applications that run only with the older
    .NET versions. I recommend against installing .NET 3.5 and
    uninstalling all previous versions, particularly if a
    line-of-business application such as QuickBooks has installed the
    older versions.

    If you encounter any problems after installing this .NET patch, use
    Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup tool to remove the update (download
    page
    <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>).
    Then reinstall the .NET update you just removed.
     
    .NET family update (951847)
    *A cautionary tale of a .NET patching mess*

    You already know I'm not a fan of .NET patching, and recently I
    learned all over again why I don't like it. I decided to install the
    patch described in KB 951847
    <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847>,
    a .NET family update for those who already have .NET 2.0 on their
    system. The update includes .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5
    SP1. The Vista PC I was using shipped with .NET 2.0.

    This system also uses Peter Schmidt's RibbonCustomizer utility for
    Office 2007 (more info
    <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/ba318eh/?url=pschmid.net%2Foffice2007%2Fribboncustomizer%2Findex.php>).
    This utility adds to the suite the classic Office toolbar as well as
    a productivity toolbar that helps workers in our office use standard
    forms. As it turns out, the program conflicts with the .NET family
    update.

    "No problem," I thought, "I'll just remove the .NET family patch."
    Not so fast.

    My first mistake was to remove .NET 3.5 SP1 via Vista's Programs and
    Features applet in the Control Panel. I was sure this would solve
    the problem. It didn't. So I downloaded Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup
    tool (more info
    <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>),
    expecting that I'd be able to remove .NET 2.0 SP2, which I suspected
    of being the offending patch.

    One problem: you can't remove .NET 2.0 from Vista because the
    framework is built into the operating system. I tried to turn back
    the clock by using System Restore: click Start, type *rstrui,* and
    press Enter to launch the program.

    I selected a time before the application of the .NET patches and
    began the restoration, which completed as expected. However, when I
    went to log back into the computer --- and ultimately to the domain
    at the office --- I was informed that I had broken the domain trust
    and could not log back into the office network.

    Fortunately, I had kept a local account on the Vista workstation to
    log back in, but even after Vista loaded, it was painfully obvious
    that the OS was not happy with the aborted change.

    What's the lesson to take from this? Whenever you make a change to
    your system, have a backup handy and be ready to roll the machine
    back. Don't assume that you can uninstall patches. And the next time
    I see a .NET patch trying to worm its way onto my PC, I'm going to
    run the other way!

I don't know if this illuminates or obfuscates, but there it is.

HTH

H Davis



-- 
H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com


From mikec at pcug.org.au  Sun Feb  8 19:25:36 2009
From: mikec at pcug.org.au (Mike Cassidy)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:25:36 +1100
Subject: TSGL: Fires
In-Reply-To: <4C9BE39DCE6B4B1FB1CED333D3BDA20C@johnsp2>
Message-ID: <LPBBIMBEGNOAFIECDFFHAEIAEIAA.mikec@pcug.org.au>

Thanks, Jon; your support is appreciated. I too hope all our List friends
are safe.

As a Deputy Captain of our local Rural Fire Service Brigade I was fielding
calls last night from neighbours concerned about the acrid, dense smoke in
our area which was blowing up from those tragic fires in Victoria some
2000km south.

MikeC

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com]OnBehalf
Of Jon
Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2009 8:08 PM
To: ListTSG
Subject: TSGL: Fires

Hope our Aussie friends are all OK. Thinking of you and wishing for the
best.

John
Od/G
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From Beezersmom at aol.com  Sun Feb  8 20:41:48 2009
From: Beezersmom at aol.com (Beezersmom at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:41:48 EST
Subject: TSGL: Fires
Message-ID: <ce3.48f08d6f.36c0e3dc@aol.com>

 
Yes, John, I agree with you 100%.
To all our Aussie members, stay safe.
 
Toni
 
In a message dated 2/8/2009 4:08:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
jonpan at onlinehome.de writes:

Hope our  Aussie friends are all OK. Thinking of you and wishing for the  
best.

John
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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 21:45:13 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:45:13 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Fires
In-Reply-To: <LPBBIMBEGNOAFIECDFFHAEIAEIAA.mikec@pcug.org.au>
References: <LPBBIMBEGNOAFIECDFFHAEIAEIAA.mikec@pcug.org.au>
Message-ID: <498F98B9.7050604@gmail.com>

Mike,

I too hope all the TSG list folks in the south are OK, but can you 
suggest why there is such a large loss of life in this fire? The regular 
fires we have here in the western US including heavily populated 
California don't seem to have anywhere the number of lives lost as I'm 
hearing on the news (135). Very sad.

H Davis

Mike Cassidy wrote:
> Thanks, Jon; your support is appreciated. I too hope all our List friends
> are safe.
>
> As a Deputy Captain of our local Rural Fire Service Brigade I was fielding
> calls last night from neighbours concerned about the acrid, dense smoke in
> our area which was blowing up from those tragic fires in Victoria some
> 2000km south.
>
> MikeC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com]OnBehalf
> Of Jon
> Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2009 8:08 PM
> To: ListTSG
> Subject: TSGL: Fires
>
> Hope our Aussie friends are all OK. Thinking of you and wishing for the
> best.
>
> John
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From leebunyard at comcast.net  Sun Feb  8 21:48:22 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 18:48:22 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Windows. Net Framework--Is This an Important Update??
In-Reply-To: <498F57C7.9050609@gmail.com>
References: <498F57C7.9050609@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <498F9976.6070507@comcast.net>

Thanks for the info, H Davis.  I subscribe to the paid version of 
Windows Secrets also but hadn't read this article in the latest issue.  
After reading it, I don't think I will download future updates of the 
Net Framework, unless I'm having some kind of problem that dictates I 
need it.  I'm kind of beginning to feel that way about a lot of the MS 
Windows updates.  When the SP1 became available for the Vista OS last 
year, I downloaded and installed it and it totally screwed up my pc.  A 
number of drivers would no longer work and there were several other 
major problems.  I kept getting messages that I needed to do this, that 
and the other thing to fix the problems but I decided that MS should 
deliver a product that takes care of those problems for me without my 
having to do anything else, so I finally just got so disgusted with it 
all that I uninstalled the Vista SP1.  My pc running Vista continues to 
run just fine without it.
Thanks again for providing the info.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
****************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************


H Davis wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
> Re your thread back around 2/1.
>
> I get the Windows Secrets newsletter and the latest issue contained 
> this info on the .net updates:
>
>    *Just say no to this .NET 3.5 update *
>
>    The most recent batch of updates from Microsoft included one for my
>    favorite Windows component: .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. Now, if you
>    could see me, you'd notice the big smirk on my face. That's because
>    patches for the .NET platform are definitely not among my favorite
>    things.
>
>    The fix described in KB 951847
>    
> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847> 
>
>    is pushed to any PC that has .NET 2.0 or greater. If you're offered
>    this patch --- regardless of whether you have .NET 3.5 installed ---
>    you will end up with .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5 SP1.
>    The only application --- or platform, in this case --- on my system
>    that uses .NET 3.5 is Small Business Server 2008. QuickBooks 2008
>    and 2009 still use .NET 2.0.
>
>    Personally, I'm not pleased that this .NET 2.0 patch has been
>    bundled into a .NET 3.5 upgrade. It feels a bit too much like bait
>    and switch to me.
>
>    How can you determine which applications use which versions of .NET?
>    Microsoft states that you can substitute .NET 3.5 for all versions
>    of .NET down to Version 1. In reality, you can't.
>
>    I support line-of-business applications that run only with the older
>    .NET versions. I recommend against installing .NET 3.5 and
>    uninstalling all previous versions, particularly if a
>    line-of-business application such as QuickBooks has installed the
>    older versions.
>
>    If you encounter any problems after installing this .NET patch, use
>    Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup tool to remove the update (download
>    page
>    
> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>). 
>
>    Then reinstall the .NET update you just removed.
>        .NET family update (951847)
>    *A cautionary tale of a .NET patching mess*
>
>    You already know I'm not a fan of .NET patching, and recently I
>    learned all over again why I don't like it. I decided to install the
>    patch described in KB 951847
>    
> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847>, 
>
>    a .NET family update for those who already have .NET 2.0 on their
>    system. The update includes .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5
>    SP1. The Vista PC I was using shipped with .NET 2.0.
>
>    This system also uses Peter Schmidt's RibbonCustomizer utility for
>    Office 2007 (more info
>    
> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/ba318eh/?url=pschmid.net%2Foffice2007%2Fribboncustomizer%2Findex.php>). 
>
>    This utility adds to the suite the classic Office toolbar as well as
>    a productivity toolbar that helps workers in our office use standard
>    forms. As it turns out, the program conflicts with the .NET family
>    update.
>
>    "No problem," I thought, "I'll just remove the .NET family patch."
>    Not so fast.
>
>    My first mistake was to remove .NET 3.5 SP1 via Vista's Programs and
>    Features applet in the Control Panel. I was sure this would solve
>    the problem. It didn't. So I downloaded Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup
>    tool (more info
>    
> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>), 
>
>    expecting that I'd be able to remove .NET 2.0 SP2, which I suspected
>    of being the offending patch.
>
>    One problem: you can't remove .NET 2.0 from Vista because the
>    framework is built into the operating system. I tried to turn back
>    the clock by using System Restore: click Start, type *rstrui,* and
>    press Enter to launch the program.
>
>    I selected a time before the application of the .NET patches and
>    began the restoration, which completed as expected. However, when I
>    went to log back into the computer --- and ultimately to the domain
>    at the office --- I was informed that I had broken the domain trust
>    and could not log back into the office network.
>
>    Fortunately, I had kept a local account on the Vista workstation to
>    log back in, but even after Vista loaded, it was painfully obvious
>    that the OS was not happy with the aborted change.
>
>    What's the lesson to take from this? Whenever you make a change to
>    your system, have a backup handy and be ready to roll the machine
>    back. Don't assume that you can uninstall patches. And the next time
>    I see a .NET patch trying to worm its way onto my PC, I'm going to
>    run the other way!
>
> I don't know if this illuminates or obfuscates, but there it is.
>
> HTH
>
> H Davis
>
>
>

From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 21:55:27 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:55:27 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Windows. Net Framework--Is This an Important Update??
In-Reply-To: <498F9976.6070507@comcast.net>
References: <498F57C7.9050609@gmail.com> <498F9976.6070507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <498F9B1F.8040703@gmail.com>

Hang in there Lee, all your Vista problems will be solved by Windows 7 - 
yeah, right!!

H Davis

Lee Bunyard wrote:
> Thanks for the info, H Davis.  I subscribe to the paid version of 
> Windows Secrets also but hadn't read this article in the latest 
> issue.  After reading it, I don't think I will download future updates 
> of the Net Framework, unless I'm having some kind of problem that 
> dictates I need it.  I'm kind of beginning to feel that way about a 
> lot of the MS Windows updates.  When the SP1 became available for the 
> Vista OS last year, I downloaded and installed it and it totally 
> screwed up my pc.  A number of drivers would no longer work and there 
> were several other major problems.  I kept getting messages that I 
> needed to do this, that and the other thing to fix the problems but I 
> decided that MS should deliver a product that takes care of those 
> problems for me without my having to do anything else, so I finally 
> just got so disgusted with it all that I uninstalled the Vista SP1.  
> My pc running Vista continues to run just fine without it.
> Thanks again for providing the info.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
> **************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 
>
>
>
> H Davis wrote:
>> Hi Lee,
>>
>> Re your thread back around 2/1.
>>
>> I get the Windows Secrets newsletter and the latest issue contained 
>> this info on the .net updates:
>>
>>    *Just say no to this .NET 3.5 update *
>>
>>    The most recent batch of updates from Microsoft included one for my
>>    favorite Windows component: .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. Now, if you
>>    could see me, you'd notice the big smirk on my face. That's because
>>    patches for the .NET platform are definitely not among my favorite
>>    things.
>>
>>    The fix described in KB 951847
>>    
>> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847> 
>>
>>    is pushed to any PC that has .NET 2.0 or greater. If you're offered
>>    this patch --- regardless of whether you have .NET 3.5 installed ---
>>    you will end up with .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5 SP1.
>>    The only application --- or platform, in this case --- on my system
>>    that uses .NET 3.5 is Small Business Server 2008. QuickBooks 2008
>>    and 2009 still use .NET 2.0.
>>
>>    Personally, I'm not pleased that this .NET 2.0 patch has been
>>    bundled into a .NET 3.5 upgrade. It feels a bit too much like bait
>>    and switch to me.
>>
>>    How can you determine which applications use which versions of .NET?
>>    Microsoft states that you can substitute .NET 3.5 for all versions
>>    of .NET down to Version 1. In reality, you can't.
>>
>>    I support line-of-business applications that run only with the older
>>    .NET versions. I recommend against installing .NET 3.5 and
>>    uninstalling all previous versions, particularly if a
>>    line-of-business application such as QuickBooks has installed the
>>    older versions.
>>
>>    If you encounter any problems after installing this .NET patch, use
>>    Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup tool to remove the update (download
>>    page
>>    
>> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>). 
>>
>>    Then reinstall the .NET update you just removed.
>>        .NET family update (951847)
>>    *A cautionary tale of a .NET patching mess*
>>
>>    You already know I'm not a fan of .NET patching, and recently I
>>    learned all over again why I don't like it. I decided to install the
>>    patch described in KB 951847
>>    
>> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/703b21h/?url=support.microsoft.com%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fscid%3Dkb%3Ben-us%3B951847>, 
>>
>>    a .NET family update for those who already have .NET 2.0 on their
>>    system. The update includes .NET 2.0 SP2, .NET 3.0 SP2, and .NET 3.5
>>    SP1. The Vista PC I was using shipped with .NET 2.0.
>>
>>    This system also uses Peter Schmidt's RibbonCustomizer utility for
>>    Office 2007 (more info
>>    
>> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/ba318eh/?url=pschmid.net%2Foffice2007%2Fribboncustomizer%2Findex.php>). 
>>
>>    This utility adds to the suite the classic Office toolbar as well as
>>    a productivity toolbar that helps workers in our office use standard
>>    forms. As it turns out, the program conflicts with the .NET family
>>    update.
>>
>>    "No problem," I thought, "I'll just remove the .NET family patch."
>>    Not so fast.
>>
>>    My first mistake was to remove .NET 3.5 SP1 via Vista's Programs and
>>    Features applet in the Control Panel. I was sure this would solve
>>    the problem. It didn't. So I downloaded Aaron Stebner's .NET cleanup
>>    tool (more info
>>    
>> <http://WindowsSecrets.com/links/gmvdkbyl44i8d/09dc87h/?url=blogs.msdn.com%2Fastebner%2Farchive%2F2006%2F05%2F30%2F611355.aspx>), 
>>
>>    expecting that I'd be able to remove .NET 2.0 SP2, which I suspected
>>    of being the offending patch.
>>
>>    One problem: you can't remove .NET 2.0 from Vista because the
>>    framework is built into the operating system. I tried to turn back
>>    the clock by using System Restore: click Start, type *rstrui,* and
>>    press Enter to launch the program.
>>
>>    I selected a time before the application of the .NET patches and
>>    began the restoration, which completed as expected. However, when I
>>    went to log back into the computer --- and ultimately to the domain
>>    at the office --- I was informed that I had broken the domain trust
>>    and could not log back into the office network.
>>
>>    Fortunately, I had kept a local account on the Vista workstation to
>>    log back in, but even after Vista loaded, it was painfully obvious
>>    that the OS was not happy with the aborted change.
>>
>>    What's the lesson to take from this? Whenever you make a change to
>>    your system, have a backup handy and be ready to roll the machine
>>    back. Don't assume that you can uninstall patches. And the next time
>>    I see a .NET patch trying to worm its way onto my PC, I'm going to
>>    run the other way!
>>
>> I don't know if this illuminates or obfuscates, but there it is.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> H Davis
>>
>>
>>
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From Beezersmom at aol.com  Mon Feb  9 00:04:11 2009
From: Beezersmom at aol.com (Beezersmom at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 00:04:11 EST
Subject: TSGL: Fires
Message-ID: <c04.556a09d4.36c1134b@aol.com>

 
Here's some information I received from a friend in  Australia.  Information 
was also sent that the intense heat, about 114  degrees along with the heat of 
the fires were causing homes to  explode.
128 people dead, 750 homes destroyed in worst bushfires in Australia's  
history
By staff writers 
NEWS.com.au 
February 09, 2009 11:06am 
 


   
 

 
Burnt out ... the state forest in  Healesville. Picture: Ellen Smith. 
_Pictures: Victoria's killer bushfires_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,22010,5037339-5006020,00.html)  
Relief ... families  at an evacuation centre / Picture: Fiona Hamilton.  
_Pictures: Victoria's killer bushfires_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,22010,5037339-5006020,00.html)   
No entry ... a police  roadblock around Yarra Glen / Picture: Stephen Harman. 
 _Pictures: Victoria's killer bushfires_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,22010,5037339-5006020,00.html)   
Wasteland ... the  remains of houses in Heathcote Junction / Picture: 
Reuters.  _Pictures: Victoria's killer bushfires_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,22010,5037339-5006020,00.html)  


 
 
_Interactive map: Where the fires are burning  now_ 
(http://mp3.news.com.au/hwt/Victoria_fire/index.swf) 


PRIME Minister Kevin Rudd said arsonists in Victoria had committed mass  
murder as the death toll in _Australia's worst ever bushfires_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25026356-1243,00.html)  rose to 128 this afternoon,  with 
the final toll expected to be much more.  
Authorities are being warned to expect a toll of 230, _The Australian_ 
(http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25027772-601,00.html) _ quoted 
sources_ (javascript:void(0);/*1234147806991*/)  inside state  emergency 
meetings as saying.  Fires were still burning out of control and  putting towns at 
risk in the Beechworth and Yackandandah regions in the state's  northeast. 
Amid speculation some of the fires were deliberately lit - and with reports  
yesterday that people were returning to relight blazes after fire crews had 
left  an area - Mr Rudd said: "There are no words to describe it other than mass 
 murder." 
 
 
 




 
 
Zoe of Victoria 





At least 750 homes have been destroyed and 3733 people have registered with  
the _Red  Cross _ 
(http://search.news.com.au/search//0/?us=ndmnews&sid=421&as=news&ac=ninews2&q=Red%20Cross) after evacuating their properties.  The number 
left homeless is  expected to be far higher, the Red Cross said. 
It was confirmed that at least four children have died, but that figure would 
 also be expected to rise as full details emerged.   
A two-year-old girl was among 13 in intensive care in hospital.   Twenty-two 
people with shocking burns were admitted to the Alfred hospital, the  state's 
main trauma centre, where _staff ran out of morphine_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25027002-1243,00.html)  trying to ease patients' pain.  
Most of the damage was done by two massive fires - one that virtually wiped  
out towns northeast of Melbourne including Kinglake and Marysville with a 
100km  front - and a second inferno that raced across Gippsland.  
TV veteran _Brian Naylor and his wife Moiree were among the  dead_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25025527-1243,00.html) .  The pair died when the 
fire at Kinglake swept through their  property. 
Horrific deaths  
Six victims were in one car trying to outrun the inferno which swept  through 
Kinglake in minutes.  A resident said the town was littered with  burnt-out 
cars and he believed many contained bodies. 
"It's going to look like Hiroshima, I tell you, it's going to look like a  
nuclear bomb," he _told Melbourne's Herald Sun_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25026072-661,00.html) . 
His daughter told of another resident who "went to put his kids in the car,  
put them in, turned around to go grab something from the house, then his car 
was  on fire with his kids in it, and they burnt". 
Weather conditions have eased since Saturday's firestorm, but firefighters  
were still battling 31 active blazes across the state as of 11.00am  (AEDT), 
authorities said.  The communities of Stanley, Bruarong,  Dederang, Gundowring, 
Gundowring Upper, Kancoona, Kancoona South, Coral Bank,  Glenn Creek and 
Running Creek remained under threat, they said.  
Residents of Taggerty, Acheron, Snobs Creek and Eildon were also on  alert.  
Some fires would take weeks to contain, authorities said, and it  could also 
take weeks to _formally identify some of those killed_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25027036-1243,00.html) . 
Other teams were working to clear debris from towns gutted over the weekend  
to allow those lucky enough to escape a chance to return to their  properties. 
 
Among the survivors, families sat in dazed disbelief, surrounded by  
mattresses, dogs and whatever meagre possessions they managed to gather as they  fled 
the fires. 

Some talked of friends who had lost children, brothers  and sisters, kids who 
have lost best friends and of a woman who has not seen her  husband since 
Saturday.  They said they had no warning before daylight  turned to night and 
their communities were enveloped in a wall of fire and  smoke.  
"We looked over and there was a wall of flames looking at us and everything  
went pitch black. There was no warning," Joanne Fisher of Kinglake said.   
"I've never seen anything like it in my life ... You see this on TV, it doesn't  
happen to you."  
Arson rumours

It was believed the _fire in Bendigo was caused by a cigarette_ 
(http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25027063-1243,00.html) , but Victoria _Police  Chief 
Commissioner Christine _ 
(http://search.news.com.au/search//0/?us=ndmnews&sid=421&as=news&ac=ninews2&q=Police%20Chief%20Commissioner%20Christine) Nixon said 
she was sickened by the fact some  other fires might have been deliberately 
lit. 

"It makes me very angry  ... we all knew we faced the most enormous risks in 
our community. 

"To  then have someone who may have lit these fires.  Fires are so  
devastating.  The injuries we are seeing. We are talking about a massive  death toll."  
A survivor told news.com.au that _arsonists should hope the police caught 
them first_ (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,25024763-2,00.html) .   "Watch your 
back, that's all I want to say to them.  Watch your back,  24/7."

Teams of disaster victim identification experts were flying in  from all over 
Australia.  Extra fire crews were being sent from  interstate. 

Mr Kevin Rudd offered army troops to help firefighters  control the fires.  
He and state Premier John Brumby also opened up  $10 million in emergency 
funding yesterday. 
"This is of a level of horror that few of us anticipated," he said this  
morning. 
- With the Herald Sun and wires  
Toni 

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From mikec at pcug.org.au  Mon Feb  9 00:14:03 2009
From: mikec at pcug.org.au (Mike Cassidy)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:14:03 +1100
Subject: TSGL: Fires
In-Reply-To: <498F98B9.7050604@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <LPBBIMBEGNOAFIECDFFHKEICEIAA.mikec@pcug.org.au>

Hi All,
There is a lot of investigation to be done before we can assess the how and
why of these fires. I did hear that a 2005 fire in one area that took two
days to cross a valley back then took just an afternoon this week; many
people would have had little warning that they were about to be engulfed in
such an intense fire. News reports also talk of many burnt-out cars on
roads; occupants who left their cars in the face of the fire storm would
have had little chance of survival. I know of people who have stayed in
their cars while a fire passed over them and, although the window glass was
too hot to touch they survived.

For information, the following is from my RFS HQ:
	Information on the Victorian fires

	The ABC website <http://www.abc.net.au/melbourne/> provides a
	useful website which is frequently updated with information on
	the current fires in Victoria. It provides information on where
	to go to donate to the Red Cross appeal, where to offer help or
	find out information on those affected.

	Contact details for information, donations and support

	For assistance contacting relatives call the Red Cross on
	1800 72 70 77.
	To donate blood contact the Red Cross on 131 495 or visit
	www.donateblood.com.au to see if you are eligible to donate.
	You can donate to the Red Cross Victorian Bush Fire Appeal
	2009 by calling 1800 811 700 or visit the Red Cross Website
	<http://www.redcross.org.au/vic/services_emergencyservices_victorian-bushfi
res-appeal-2009.htm>
	or <http://tinyurl.com/bvfn9r>.
	Donations can also be made via the Salvation Army at
	<http://salvos.org.au/>.
	You can also donate any clothes, blankets or furniture to your
	nearest Salvation Army or other charity collection point.
	To offer horse agistment please contact the Triple R Equine
	Welfare Crisis Network <http://tinyurl.com/bwtxa2>.
	For offers of accommodation for small animals please contact
	Animal Aid <http://www.animalaid.com.au/>.
	To help with wildlife rescue please contact Wildlife Rescuers
	<http://www.wildliferescuers.org.au>.

These phone numbers are for us Aussies.

And please note the call for blood donations; if you are anywhere in
Australia your blood donation will be an easy way you can help save lives
NOW!

My own Brigade has one of our two units on standby to go on relief to
Victoria; some of those guys have been going for days with little rest.

Thanks for those expressions of support and I know everyone out there on
TGSL will hold those affected by the fires in their thoughts and prayers.

MikeC

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com]OnBehalf
Of H Davis
Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 1:45 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Fires

Mike,

I too hope all the TSG list folks in the south are OK, but can you suggest
why there is such a large loss of life in this fire? The regular fires we
have here in the western US including heavily populated California don't
seem to have anywhere the number of lives lost as I'm hearing on the news
(135). Very sad.

H Davis



From arnotind at onlink.net  Wed Feb 11 22:18:22 2009
From: arnotind at onlink.net (Arnold Tindall)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:18:22 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Startup file
Message-ID: <E91EAFE98F624EA088C262769EE53FA4@acer03bb9978b5>

My windows XP system has decided to open up regularly with the following 
screen

.DR is missing
ss any key to start

 Obviously the first three letters of each sentence are missing from the 
left of the screen.

The instruction works but it is a nuisance to have switched on the computer 
and come back five minutes later to find it has not yet started up.

A search of the hard drive reveals no file matching the description "*.DR"

My question:
What is the name of the missing file? and after I locate a copy on the 
internet, where should it be placed on my C Drive?

Arnold 



From coover at fastmail.fm  Thu Feb 12 03:03:55 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:03:55 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Startup file
In-Reply-To: <E91EAFE98F624EA088C262769EE53FA4@acer03bb9978b5>
References: <E91EAFE98F624EA088C262769EE53FA4@acer03bb9978b5>
Message-ID: <9A1BD9D33EFB412284AAF3DE5E1D1602@AcerLaptop>

I don't have an answer to any of your questions. However, I will offer some
advice.

1. Use SAFE Registry Cleaner to see if it will "fix" the problem. A couple
of safe registry cleaners I would recommend ... Eusing Free Registry Cleaner


http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

and (this one is from Microsoft) RegClean

http://majorgeeks.com/download458.html

Please note that there are lots of other Registry Cleaners available. Most
are not safe. Perhaps others will recommend other SAFE cleaners. 

2. (Use this ONLY if the 1st step does not work) ... If the SAFE registry
cleaners do not work, you may be able to determine the (former) location of
the offending file by opening the registry and searching for "*.dr" . 

To do this, open "Run" and type in "regedit". Your registry will open, click
on "Edit" and then on "Find". If you find something, let this group know
what it is and where it is within the registry and (hopefully) someone with
registry knowledge can give you further instructions. VERY IMPORTANT: Do not
manually delete or change (Modify) anything in the Registry until you know
what this item is and if it is safe to remove. Please note: MODIFICATION OF
THE REGISTRY MAY CAUSE YOUR OPERATING SYSTEM TO STOP OPERATING, OR CAUSE
YOUR IT TO OPERATE IMPROPERLY. I'm sure you do not like blue screens.

Russ Coover 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Arnold Tindall
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:18 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: TSGL: Startup file

My windows XP system has decided to open up regularly with the following 
screen

.DR is missing
ss any key to start

 Obviously the first three letters of each sentence are missing from the 
left of the screen.

The instruction works but it is a nuisance to have switched on the computer 
and come back five minutes later to find it has not yet started up.

A search of the hard drive reveals no file matching the description "*.DR"

My question:
What is the name of the missing file? and after I locate a copy on the 
internet, where should it be placed on my C Drive?

Arnold 


_______________________________________________
Tech Support Guy Mailing List
http://www.tsgserver.com/list/



From deepend at tpg.com.au  Thu Feb 12 06:58:27 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:58:27 +1000
Subject: TSGL: Startup file
In-Reply-To: <E91EAFE98F624EA088C262769EE53FA4@acer03bb9978b5>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090212215214.00c7aa50@mail.tpg.com.au>

At 07:18 PM 2/11/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>My windows XP system has decided to open up regularly with the following 
>screen
>
>.DR is missing
>ss any key to start>>


It's a common problem.

The "missing" (ie damaged) file is NTLDR and it lives in the C Drive ( 
assuming Windows folder is in that drive).

When you replace that file, you might then find that NTDETECT.com is also 
"missing". Replace that also.

These are the 2 files (also boot.ini) that XP looks for first before it can 
boot.

In case it ever happens again, make a copy of each of those files on your 
C-drive. Then it's easy to rename and replace them, as long as you have an 
emergency startup disk like BartPE, Linux, or similar.

Don Penlington




From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 12 16:51:51 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:51:51 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Eudora problems
In-Reply-To: <4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>

I'm still running Eudora (6.2.1) in paid mode. I'm not aware of having made 
any changes, but suddenly two things have happened:

#1 The folder/mailbox window has disappeared

#2 The messages no longer have  to/from information in them (the full 
header information still appears when I click the blah-blah-blah button, 
I'm treferreing to the abbrevated information)

Any idea what's gone wrong?

Yes, I could switch to another program. I'd rather keep on with Eudora.

Willard 

From titone at usc.edu  Thu Feb 12 17:02:47 2009
From: titone at usc.edu (Joe Titone)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:02:47 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Eudora problems
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.13.1234476176.4571.list_tsgserver.com@tsgserver.com>

At 01:51 PM 2/12/2009, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>  wrote:

Your best bet for Eudora information is at Eudora for Windows 
<eudora-win at lists.listmoms.net>

>I'm still running Eudora (6.2.1) in paid mode. I'm not aware of 
>having made any changes, but suddenly two things have happened:
>
>#1 The folder/mailbox window has disappeared

I think you can restore this by: Tools > Mailboxes

>#2 The messages no longer have  to/from information in them (the 
>full header information still appears when I click the 
>blah-blah-blah button, I'm treferreing to the abbrevated information)

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but the people at the above list 
can answer anything about Eudora.

>Any idea what's gone wrong?
>
>Yes, I could switch to another program. I'd rather keep on with Eudora.
>
>Willard _______________________________________________
>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/

Joe Titone
titone7604 at comcast.net 

From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 12 17:23:27 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:23:27 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Eudora problems
In-Reply-To: <200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink. net>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
	<200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090212172232.01ff3488@pop.earthlink.net>

At 05:02 PM 2/12/2009, you wrote:
>Your best bet for Eudora information is at Eudora for Windows 
><eudora-win at lists.listmoms.net>
>
>>I'm still running Eudora (6.2.1) in paid mode. I'm not aware of having 
>>made any changes, but suddenly two things have happened:
>>
>>#1 The folder/mailbox window has disappeared
>
>I think you can restore this by: Tools > Mailboxes


That worked, thanks. I'll try the lists.

From deepend at tpg.com.au  Thu Feb 12 20:17:14 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:17:14 +1000
Subject: TSGL: Eudora problems
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090213111313.00c6acc8@mail.tpg.com.au>

At 04:51 PM 2/12/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>Any idea what's gone wrong?
>
>Yes, I could switch to another program. I'd rather keep on with Eudora.>>


Reinstall it. That should fix any corruptions while preserving your settings.

Make sure your in, out, and trashboxes aren't overfull. I don't know what 
the limit is, it probably depends on your system, but I like to keep them 
under 200 items each.

Which reminds me---time to clean out the trashbox.

Don Penlington




From arnotind at onlink.net  Fri Feb 13 10:27:26 2009
From: arnotind at onlink.net (Arnold Tindall)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:27:26 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Startup file
References: <4.3.2.20090212215214.00c7aa50@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <63DB16D163B54DA6BFB23812DB4D45E8@acer03bb9978b5>

Thank you Russ and Don.

Knowing the file name, NTLDR I was able to locate a copy elsewhere on the 
drive, and switched it with one found on the root of C:

After waiting out two boot sequences the problem was apparently not cured 
and I decided I would have to try the registry cleaning suggested by Russ.

Just then I noticed a thumb drive sticking out of a USB port. Removing the 
thumb drive seems to have solved the problem, which has not recurred in the 
last two days. (I power down the system whenever I leave the house.) I am 
reminded that I was randomly bothered by this problem in the past quite 
possibly because of a thumb drive.

Oh the mysteries of Windows! Why does the system not hiccup over other 
peripherals regularly attached, an external hard drive, a floppy drive and a 
Zip drive?

Arnold



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Penlington" <deepend at tpg.com.au>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:58 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Startup file


> At 07:18 PM 2/11/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>>My windows XP system has decided to open up regularly with the following 
>>screen
>>
>>.DR is missing
>>ss any key to start>>
>
>
> It's a common problem.
>
> The "missing" (ie damaged) file is NTLDR and it lives in the C Drive ( 
> assuming Windows folder is in that drive).
>
> When you replace that file, you might then find that NTDETECT.com is also 
> "missing". Replace that also.
>
> These are the 2 files (also boot.ini) that XP looks for first before it 
> can boot.
>
> In case it ever happens again, make a copy of each of those files on your 
> C-drive. Then it's easy to rename and replace them, as long as you have an 
> emergency startup disk like BartPE, Linux, or similar.
>
> Don Penlington
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
> 



From ian at iarp.ca  Fri Feb 13 11:01:14 2009
From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:01:14 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Startup file
In-Reply-To: <63DB16D163B54DA6BFB23812DB4D45E8@acer03bb9978b5>
References: <4.3.2.20090212215214.00c7aa50@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<63DB16D163B54DA6BFB23812DB4D45E8@acer03bb9978b5>
Message-ID: <adc2940c0902130801o7b7659aan2c250de4d3e1598d@mail.gmail.com>

During boot up, if my iPod's attached, it'll take over 16minutes to even
start loading windows. And USB isn't set to be bootable at all.
So i always make sure my ipods disconnected, maybe it's just a quirk? or usb
is set to bootable before hdd in bios?

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Arnold Tindall <arnotind at onlink.net>wrote:

> Thank you Russ and Don.
>
> Knowing the file name, NTLDR I was able to locate a copy elsewhere on the
> drive, and switched it with one found on the root of C:
>
> After waiting out two boot sequences the problem was apparently not cured
> and I decided I would have to try the registry cleaning suggested by Russ.
>
> Just then I noticed a thumb drive sticking out of a USB port. Removing the
> thumb drive seems to have solved the problem, which has not recurred in the
> last two days. (I power down the system whenever I leave the house.) I am
> reminded that I was randomly bothered by this problem in the past quite
> possibly because of a thumb drive.
>
> Oh the mysteries of Windows! Why does the system not hiccup over other
> peripherals regularly attached, an external hard drive, a floppy drive and a
> Zip drive?
>
> Arnold
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Penlington" <deepend at tpg.com.au>
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:58 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Startup file
>
>
>
>  At 07:18 PM 2/11/2009 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>> My windows XP system has decided to open up regularly with the following
>>> screen
>>>
>>> .DR is missing
>>> ss any key to start>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's a common problem.
>>
>> The "missing" (ie damaged) file is NTLDR and it lives in the C Drive (
>> assuming Windows folder is in that drive).
>>
>> When you replace that file, you might then find that NTDETECT.com is also
>> "missing". Replace that also.
>>
>> These are the 2 files (also boot.ini) that XP looks for first before it
>> can boot.
>>
>> In case it ever happens again, make a copy of each of those files on your
>> C-drive. Then it's easy to rename and replace them, as long as you have an
>> emergency startup disk like BartPE, Linux, or similar.
>>
>> Don Penlington
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



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Thanks
Ian R-P
Patience is a virtue.

From Engineman1 at aol.com  Sat Feb 14 17:35:06 2009
From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:35:06 EST
Subject: TSGL: Open Office
Message-ID: <c12.4c391119.36c8a11a@aol.com>

 
I have Open Office 2.4.
Every time I boot up it tries to open.
I have removed it from the startup list many times but it always ends up  
back there.
How can I correct this nuisance?
Also, when I do want it, it makes me go through a 3 screen signup  procedure.
Any ideas?
Thanx in advance,
Engineman

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From ian at iarp.ca  Sat Feb 14 20:04:27 2009
From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:04:27 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Open Office
In-Reply-To: <c12.4c391119.36c8a11a@aol.com>
References: <c12.4c391119.36c8a11a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <adc2940c0902141704o408400e8m10a29c464231de1f@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to make a guess and say you've already right clicked the taskbar
icon and uncheck Auto Load?
Also have you filled out the info?
i use Fred Flintstone.. gets them to be quiet.

On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, <Engineman1 at aol.com> wrote:

>
> I have Open Office 2.4.
> Every time I boot up it tries to open.
> I have removed it from the startup list many times but it always ends up
> back there.
> How can I correct this nuisance?
> Also, when I do want it, it makes me go through a 3 screen signup
>  procedure.
> Any ideas?
> Thanx in advance,
> Engineman
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
> steps!
> (
> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe
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From nade at gorge.net  Sat Feb 14 20:48:26 2009
From: nade at gorge.net (Sylvia Gould)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 17:48:26 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>

How do I delete items from the lower right --with clock, volume, 
etc?  Right-click doesn't give me that option.
Thanks
Sylvia G.



From csmdcs at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 09:11:39 2009
From: csmdcs at gmail.com (Don Searles)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:11:39 -0600
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <BA775C419C1E49A5A0D9D756A621CEEF@Don>


Sylvia,

These icons represent running programs. To stop them from starting when Windows starts, you have to uncheck them from the "Startup" option. Go here  http://netsquirrel.com/msconfig/msconfig_xp.html for an explanation of how to do that.

Don.


From deepend at tpg.com.au  Sun Feb 15 09:14:38 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:14:38 +1000
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090215234416.00c6fbe0@mail.tpg.com.au>

Sylvia wrote:
>How do I delete items from the lower right --with clock, volume, etc?>>


Cal;ed the system tray, or systray for short.

You can't "delete" them as such. That is the area which contains icons for 
programs that are running, usually in the background. You can only 
eliminate them by closing each program, usually be right clicking the icon.

Many programs give you the option in their settings of "minimising to the 
systray". Others just go there by default.

Generally these are items that open whenever Windows boots up. These 
programs are called "startups"

If you don't want them in the "startups" (mots computers have too much 
overhead running, most of which is unnecessary and only leads to lockups 
and slowdowns) you can stop them running automatically by several methods.

The easiest is to open Start Menu/Run and type msconfig. Then go to the 
startup tab along the top and untick the items you don't want.

That's one of the first things you do whenever troubleshooting. You can 
always re-tick them later if you want them back.

Msconfig is quite safe to use, it won't allow you to stop anything vital to 
the system. So you can start by unticking everything, then add each one 
back in until you find what might be causing trouble. This doesn't always 
solve anything, as any 2 or more apps may be perfectly OK by themselves, 
but may conflict when open together, often in some rare circumstances.

There are many freeware startup managers which will give you more 
information about each startup, among the best are Mike Lin's Startup 
Control Panel (simple) or Startup Inspector ( more informative).

Autoruns is one which will include ALL background applications 
running---most of which you don't need to know about as they are mostly 
part of Windows and otherwise hidden from sight. This one's more for the 
experts or the more adventurous.

Googling any of those names will take you direct to their download sites.

To see what's actually running, open Task Manager (Ctrl/Alt/Delete). Some 
of those will be necessary services ("svc host", maybe 3 or 4 instances. 
Each Svchost controls a group of XP services). I never like to see more 
than about 30 items running altogether. The fewer the better.

Some programs, such as Quicktime, leave themselves running even though 
you've closed them after you've finished with them. This too invasive by 
far, and sooner or later these programs lead to trouble. Better to find a 
better-behaved alternative.

And some (here again Quicktime is a notorious example) will even put 
themselves into your startups without your permission every time you open them.

The more things you have running in the background, the slower  and less 
reliable your computer will be. Which I guess is probably the reason why 
you're asking this question.

Sorry, I got a bit carried away --- simple answer turned into a lecture.

Don Penlington




From alan_mitchell at mindspring.com  Sun Feb 15 11:53:10 2009
From: alan_mitchell at mindspring.com (Alan Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:53:10 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP>

Sylvia,

The simple way to handle this is to right-click the START button and select
Properties. You'll get a panel called Taskbar and Start Menu Properties.
Click on the Taskbar tab and select Customize at the bottom of the panel.
That will show you a list of all icons being placed in the Taskbar. Click on
any that you wish to hide and you'll be given the option to:

Always show
Always hide
Hide when inactive

If you select Always hide, they won't show up UNLESS you click on the < at
the left hand side of the taskbar. If you want to see them, click on the <
and they'll display.

Hope this helps.

Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Sylvia Gould
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:48 PM
To: List at tsgserver.com
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu

How do I delete items from the lower right --with clock, volume, etc?
Right-click doesn't give me that option.
Thanks
Sylvia G.


_______________________________________________
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http://www.tsgserver.com/list/



From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 15:16:04 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:16:04 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP>
Message-ID: <49987804.6060100@gmail.com>

Sylvia,

Alan is correct but the programs associated with the icons will still be 
running and consuming memory and (possibly) processor time.

It depends on what you want. Don & Don have indicated how to stop the 
programs from running. Alan's method is the quickest if you're only 
interested in the cosmetics of the tray area.

H Davis

Alan Mitchell wrote:
> Sylvia,
>
> The simple way to handle this is to right-click the START button and select
> Properties. You'll get a panel called Taskbar and Start Menu Properties.
> Click on the Taskbar tab and select Customize at the bottom of the panel.
> That will show you a list of all icons being placed in the Taskbar. Click on
> any that you wish to hide and you'll be given the option to:
>
> Always show
> Always hide
> Hide when inactive
>
> If you select Always hide, they won't show up UNLESS you click on the < at
> the left hand side of the taskbar. If you want to see them, click on the <
> and they'll display.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Alan 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of Sylvia Gould
> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:48 PM
> To: List at tsgserver.com
> Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
>
> How do I delete items from the lower right --with clock, volume, etc?
> Right-click doesn't give me that option.
> Thanks
> Sylvia G.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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From nade at gorge.net  Sun Feb 15 15:23:47 2009
From: nade at gorge.net (Sylvia Gould)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:23:47 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <49987804.6060100@gmail.com>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP>
	<49987804.6060100@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20090215122052.026b2548@POP3.gorge.net>

Yes, I want the programs to not be running unless I choose to start them, 
thereby helping the computer to run better and faster.
I don't understand your reference to Don & Don. I haven't seen any email 
from anyone but Alan on this subject. (Looked in my trash and junk boxes, 
too). What was the procedure suggested there?
Thanks.
Sylvia G.

At 12:16 PM 2/15/2009, you wrote:
>Sylvia,
>
>Alan is correct but the programs associated with the icons will still be 
>running and consuming memory and (possibly) processor time.
>
>It depends on what you want. Don & Don have indicated how to stop the 
>programs from running. Alan's method is the quickest if you're only 
>interested in the cosmetics of the tray area.
>
>H Davis
>
>Alan Mitchell wrote:
>>Sylvia,
>>
>>The simple way to handle this is to right-click the START button and select
>>Properties. You'll get a panel called Taskbar and Start Menu Properties.
>>Click on the Taskbar tab and select Customize at the bottom of the panel.
>>That will show you a list of all icons being placed in the Taskbar. Click on
>>any that you wish to hide and you'll be given the option to:
>>
>>Always show
>>Always hide
>>Hide when inactive
>>
>>If you select Always hide, they won't show up UNLESS you click on the < at
>>the left hand side of the taskbar. If you want to see them, click on the <
>>and they'll display.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Alan
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
>>Behalf Of Sylvia Gould
>>Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 8:48 PM
>>To: List at tsgserver.com
>>Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
>>
>>How do I delete items from the lower right --with clock, volume, etc?
>>Right-click doesn't give me that option.
>>Thanks
>>Sylvia G.
>>
>>
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>
>
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>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: 02/14/09 
>18:01:00




From csmdcs at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 15:39:24 2009
From: csmdcs at gmail.com (Don Searles)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:39:24 -0600
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090215122052.026b2548@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net><890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP><49987804.6060100@gmail.com>
	<6.1.0.6.2.20090215122052.026b2548@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <905A8C9268EE4C6FA595FC58CFC3C909@Don>


Sylvia,

I forwarded both responses(Don & Don) to you direct thinking you may have a better chance of receiving them.

Don Searles


Sylvia wrote>>>>>
I don't understand your reference to Don & Don. I haven't seen any email 
from anyone but Alan on this subject. (Looked in my trash and junk boxes, 
too). What was the procedure suggested there?
Thanks.
Sylvia G.

From nade at gorge.net  Sun Feb 15 16:30:17 2009
From: nade at gorge.net (Sylvia Gould)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:30:17 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Deleting from Start Menu
In-Reply-To: <905A8C9268EE4C6FA595FC58CFC3C909@Don>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090214174744.026396a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<890E2BF9BC3E4DC589D93EFA3E08134E@DESKTOP>
	<49987804.6060100@gmail.com>
	<6.1.0.6.2.20090215122052.026b2548@POP3.gorge.net>
	<905A8C9268EE4C6FA595FC58CFC3C909@Don>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20090215132943.026c5710@POP3.gorge.net>

Thanks. Received. That's exactly what I needed.
S.G.

At 12:39 PM 2/15/2009, you wrote:

>Sylvia,
>
>I forwarded both responses(Don & Don) to you direct thinking you may have 
>a better chance of receiving them.
>
>Don Searles




From coover at fastmail.fm  Sun Feb 15 17:45:00 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:45:00 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Open Office
In-Reply-To: <c12.4c391119.36c8a11a@aol.com>
References: <c12.4c391119.36c8a11a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2BC1CC3EF184427692633274D16AAFAB@AcerLaptop>

Sounds like it might not have been properly installed. I suggest that you
uninstall it and then download and install the most recent version of Open
Office, 3.0.1, which you can find at http://www.openoffice.org

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Engineman1 at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:35 PM
To: List at tsgserver.com
Subject: TSGL: Open Office

 
I have Open Office 2.4.
Every time I boot up it tries to open.
I have removed it from the startup list many times but it always ends up  
back there.
How can I correct this nuisance?
Also, when I do want it, it makes me go through a 3 screen signup
procedure.
Any ideas?
Thanx in advance,
Engineman

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From alan_mitchell at mindspring.com  Mon Feb 16 11:50:33 2009
From: alan_mitchell at mindspring.com (Alan Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:50:33 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Networking local systems
In-Reply-To: <200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <066F214DAAAB46C59B0BE9DF5D1519F8@l6j9l2>
	<200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>

Have a question regarding connecting two systems over local network.
 
Just got a older computer which I decided to configure as a backup system
for my main computer. I connected the two systems using CAT 5 UTP through an
Airlink Super G router (purportedly 100 Mbps) and tried running a backup
over the network.
 
Both systems are P4, each with 1 GB memory and each has a Realtek RTL8139
built in NIC. 
 
The best speed I can obtain is 10 Mbps in sustained transfer.
 
Would I be better served to use an MBX (crossover) cable connecting the
systems (after setting the IP, of course) to obtain something closer to the
100 Mbps promised by my equipment?
 
Thanks,
Alan



From nade at gorge.net  Mon Feb 16 12:51:37 2009
From: nade at gorge.net (Sylvia Gould)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:51:37 -0800
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>

I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a kitchen 
appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a 
page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a fluke, 
or is there something I can remedy?
Sylvia G.



From justin at whisperer.com.au  Mon Feb 16 17:18:24 2009
From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:18:24 +1100
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>

You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default... if
you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version

2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>

> I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a kitchen
> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a fluke,
> or is there something I can remedy?
> Sylvia G.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 21:17:33 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:17:33 -0500
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>

Sylvia,

It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse 
that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that 
is inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.

If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to 
you or not.

H Davis

The Computer Whisperer wrote:
> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default... if
> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>
> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>
>   
>> I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a kitchen
>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a fluke,
>> or is there something I can remedy?
>> Sylvia G.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   

-- 
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From nade at gorge.net  Tue Feb 17 00:03:29 2009
From: nade at gorge.net (Sylvia Gould)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:03:29 -0800
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>
	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>

Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got 
right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most all 
other links work fine.
S.G.

At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>Sylvia,
>
>It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse 
>that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that is 
>inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>
>If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to you 
>or not.
>
>H Davis
>
>The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
>>default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default... if
>>you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>>
>>2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>
>>
>>>I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a kitchen
>>>appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>>>page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a fluke,
>>>or is there something I can remedy?
>>>Sylvia G.
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>--
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>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 
>06:55:00




From justin at whisperer.com.au  Tue Feb 17 07:05:25 2009
From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:05:25 +1100
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>
	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>
	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>
	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>

Try uninstalling Java and Adobe Flash from control panel, then reinstall
when the website you visit asks you.

Regards,

Justin

2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>

> Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got
> right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most all other
> links work fine.
> S.G.
>
>
> At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Sylvia,
>>
>> It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse
>> that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that is
>> inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>>
>> If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to you
>> or not.
>>
>> H Davis
>>
>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>
>>> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
>>> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default...
>>> if
>>> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>>>
>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
>>>> kitchen
>>>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>>>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
>>>> fluke,
>>>> or is there something I can remedy?
>>>> Sylvia G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09
>> 06:55:00
>>
>
>
>
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From justin at whisperer.com.au  Tue Feb 17 07:06:32 2009
From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:06:32 +1100
Subject: TSGL: Networking local systems
In-Reply-To: <4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>
References: <066F214DAAAB46C59B0BE9DF5D1519F8@l6j9l2>
	<200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>
Message-ID: <2852b8d40902170406x69e0c473n4fb1d8c6e185fdb4@mail.gmail.com>

Are your network cards connecting at 100Mbps?

perhaps one of your cards is a 10Mbps card.

2009/2/17 Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com>

> Have a question regarding connecting two systems over local network.
>
> Just got a older computer which I decided to configure as a backup system
> for my main computer. I connected the two systems using CAT 5 UTP through
> an
> Airlink Super G router (purportedly 100 Mbps) and tried running a backup
> over the network.
>
> Both systems are P4, each with 1 GB memory and each has a Realtek RTL8139
> built in NIC.
>
> The best speed I can obtain is 10 Mbps in sustained transfer.
>
> Would I be better served to use an MBX (crossover) cable connecting the
> systems (after setting the IP, of course) to obtain something closer to the
> 100 Mbps promised by my equipment?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



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From leebunyard at comcast.net  Tue Feb 17 07:39:27 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:39:27 -0800
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>
	<2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <499AAFFF.9030509@comcast.net>

Good advice from Justin--You can have all kinds of problems if Java 
and/or Adobe Flash get screwed up on your pc.  I somehow got Java messed 
up a couple of months ago on my desktop pc while trying to do an update 
of Java and can no longer use the Firefox browser at all.  When I try to 
bring Firefox up for certain websites--like the Secunia website below 
that many of us use to identify needed software updates--Firefox starts 
to come up and then just abruptly closes down.  I've tried 
uninstalling/reinstalling Firefox and uninstalling/reinstalling Java and 
Flash to no avail.  System Restore has not helped fix the problem 
either.  I suspect the registry has gotten messed up also but so far 
have been unable to identify a solution to the problem.  As a result, 
I've been forced to use the MSIE browser, altho I like Firefox much 
better.  The weird thing is that even the MSIE browser starts to open up 
and then abruptly shuts down when I try to open the Secunia website, 
altho MSIE works fine for almost every other website.  Go figure. 

Uninstalling and reinstalling Java and Flash seems like a good first 
step to try.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/
******************************************************************************



The Computer Whisperer wrote:
> Try uninstalling Java and Adobe Flash from control panel, then reinstall
> when the website you visit asks you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Justin
>
> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>
>   
>> Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got
>> right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most all other
>> links work fine.
>> S.G.
>>
>>
>> At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Sylvia,
>>>
>>> It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse
>>> that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that is
>>> inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>>>
>>> If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to you
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> H Davis
>>>
>>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
>>>> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default...
>>>> if
>>>> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>>>>
>>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
>>>>         
>>>>> kitchen
>>>>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>>>>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
>>>>> fluke,
>>>>> or is there something I can remedy?
>>>>> Sylvia G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> H Davis   hdavis1 at gmail.com
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09
>>> 06:55:00
>>>
>>>       
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00
>
>   

From alan_mitchell at mindspring.com  Tue Feb 17 09:13:45 2009
From: alan_mitchell at mindspring.com (Alan Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:13:45 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Networking local systems
In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40902170406x69e0c473n4fb1d8c6e185fdb4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <066F214DAAAB46C59B0BE9DF5D1519F8@l6j9l2><200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>
	<2852b8d40902170406x69e0c473n4fb1d8c6e185fdb4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EC312B9ADC924D2B92B12250B88870ED@DESKTOP>

I checked the specs on the Realtek 8139 and according to Realtek, it's a 100
Mbps card. In checking the settings, both are configured for "auto" which,
according to Microsoft, should automatically negotiate for the fastest
possible transfer rate.

Since this has got me curious, I decided to run a test of sending data back
from the backup system to my main computer and, surprise!, I got a sustained
transfer rate of 19.8 Mbps. While this is twice the original rate, it's
still only 20% of rated speeds. That's really weird. I think I might pull
out my old MBX cable and see if I can remember what's necessary to connect
two system directly and see what happens. Or maybe I'll just pull out
another router and see if the same speeds occur. Thanks for the suggestion.
Somehow this just doesn't seem right.

Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:07 AM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Networking local systems

Are your network cards connecting at 100Mbps?

perhaps one of your cards is a 10Mbps card.

2009/2/17 Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com>

> Have a question regarding connecting two systems over local network.
>
> Just got a older computer which I decided to configure as a backup 
> system for my main computer. I connected the two systems using CAT 5 
> UTP through an Airlink Super G router (purportedly 100 Mbps) and tried 
> running a backup over the network.
>
> Both systems are P4, each with 1 GB memory and each has a Realtek 
> RTL8139 built in NIC.
>
> The best speed I can obtain is 10 Mbps in sustained transfer.
>
> Would I be better served to use an MBX (crossover) cable connecting 
> the systems (after setting the IP, of course) to obtain something 
> closer to the 100 Mbps promised by my equipment?
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
>
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From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Tue Feb 17 09:45:02 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:45:02 +0100
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net><2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>
	<499AAFFF.9030509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5E4EE43FF29E4F988ADBB03F5EF36E5E@johnsp2>

At least try Opera!

John
Od/G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lee Bunyard 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: "forbidden"?


Good advice from Justin--You can have all kinds of problems if Java 
and/or Adobe Flash get screwed up on your pc.  I somehow got Java messed 
up a couple of months ago on my desktop pc while trying to do an update 
of Java and can no longer use the Firefox browser at all.  When I try to 
bring Firefox up for certain websites--like the Secunia website below 
that many of us use to identify needed software updates--Firefox starts 
to come up and then just abruptly closes down.  I've tried 
uninstalling/reinstalling Firefox and uninstalling/reinstalling Java and 
Flash to no avail.  System Restore has not helped fix the problem 
either.  I suspect the registry has gotten messed up also but so far 
have been unable to identify a solution to the problem.  As a result, 
I've been forced to use the MSIE browser, altho I like Firefox much 
better.  The weird thing is that even the MSIE browser starts to open up 
and then abruptly shuts down when I try to open the Secunia website, 
altho MSIE works fine for almost every other website.  Go figure. 

Uninstalling and reinstalling Java and Flash seems like a good first 
step to try.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/
******************************************************************************



The Computer Whisperer wrote:
> Try uninstalling Java and Adobe Flash from control panel, then reinstall
> when the website you visit asks you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Justin
>
> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>
>   
>> Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got
>> right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most all other
>> links work fine.
>> S.G.
>>
>>
>> At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Sylvia,
>>>
>>> It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse
>>> that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that is
>>> inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>>>
>>> If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to you
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> H Davis
>>>
>>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
>>>> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default...
>>>> if
>>>> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>>>>
>>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
>>>>         
>>>>> kitchen
>>>>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>>>>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
>>>>> fluke,
>>>>> or is there something I can remedy?
>>>>> Sylvia G.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> --
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09
>>> 06:55:00
>>>
>>>       
>>
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>
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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 14:03:12 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:03:12 -0500
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <499AAFFF.9030509@comcast.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>
	<499AAFFF.9030509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <499B09F0.2040303@gmail.com>

Hi Lee,

Have you considered that you might have some kind of virus? While it's 
low probability, some of these virus' prevent access to sites that might 
reveal or remove them, like Secunia. Can you access McAfee, Symantec, etc?

Just a thought.

H Davis

PS. Are you getting a lot of snow from this latest storm we see on the 
weather channel?

Lee Bunyard wrote:
> Good advice from Justin--You can have all kinds of problems if Java 
> and/or Adobe Flash get screwed up on your pc.  I somehow got Java 
> messed up a couple of months ago on my desktop pc while trying to do 
> an update of Java and can no longer use the Firefox browser at all.  
> When I try to bring Firefox up for certain websites--like the Secunia 
> website below that many of us use to identify needed software 
> updates--Firefox starts to come up and then just abruptly closes 
> down.  I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Firefox and 
> uninstalling/reinstalling Java and Flash to no avail.  System Restore 
> has not helped fix the problem either.  I suspect the registry has 
> gotten messed up also but so far have been unable to identify a 
> solution to the problem.  As a result, I've been forced to use the 
> MSIE browser, altho I like Firefox much better.  The weird thing is 
> that even the MSIE browser starts to open up and then abruptly shuts 
> down when I try to open the Secunia website, altho MSIE works fine for 
> almost every other website.  Go figure.
> Uninstalling and reinstalling Java and Flash seems like a good first 
> step to try.
> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
>
> http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/
> ****************************************************************************** 
>
>
>
>
> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>> Try uninstalling Java and Adobe Flash from control panel, then reinstall
>> when the website you visit asks you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>
>>  
>>> Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got
>>> right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most 
>>> all other
>>> links work fine.
>>> S.G.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>    
>>>> Sylvia,
>>>>
>>>> It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you 
>>>> parse
>>>> that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder 
>>>> that is
>>>> inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>>>>
>>>> If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique 
>>>> to you
>>>> or not.
>>>>
>>>> H Davis
>>>>
>>>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      
>>>>> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings 
>>>>> back to
>>>>> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to 
>>>>> default...
>>>>> if
>>>>> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your 
>>>>> version
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
>>>>>        
>>>>>> kitchen
>>>>>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, 
>>>>>> I get a
>>>>>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
>>>>>> fluke,
>>>>>> or is there something I can remedy?
>>>>>> Sylvia G.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>> -- 
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>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 
>>>> 02/16/09
>>>> 06:55:00
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>     
>>
>>
>>
>>   
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 
>> 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/14/09 18:01:00
>>
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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 14:08:40 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:08:40 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Networking local systems
In-Reply-To: <EC312B9ADC924D2B92B12250B88870ED@DESKTOP>
References: <066F214DAAAB46C59B0BE9DF5D1519F8@l6j9l2><200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>	<2852b8d40902170406x69e0c473n4fb1d8c6e185fdb4@mail.gmail.com>
	<EC312B9ADC924D2B92B12250B88870ED@DESKTOP>
Message-ID: <499B0B38.50705@gmail.com>

Alan,

I don't know the answer to your problem but on my, plain vanilla, wired 
network using a Linksys WRT54G router, I get about 70 mbs, not counting 
any overhead bits the system adds. My machines are close together with 
about 15' of cable between each and the router.

HTH

H Davis

Alan Mitchell wrote:
> I checked the specs on the Realtek 8139 and according to Realtek, it's a 100
> Mbps card. In checking the settings, both are configured for "auto" which,
> according to Microsoft, should automatically negotiate for the fastest
> possible transfer rate.
>
> Since this has got me curious, I decided to run a test of sending data back
> from the backup system to my main computer and, surprise!, I got a sustained
> transfer rate of 19.8 Mbps. While this is twice the original rate, it's
> still only 20% of rated speeds. That's really weird. I think I might pull
> out my old MBX cable and see if I can remember what's necessary to connect
> two system directly and see what happens. Or maybe I'll just pull out
> another router and see if the same speeds occur. Thanks for the suggestion.
> Somehow this just doesn't seem right.
>
> Alan 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:07 AM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Networking local systems
>
> Are your network cards connecting at 100Mbps?
>
> perhaps one of your cards is a 10Mbps card.
>
> 2009/2/17 Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com>
>
>   
>> Have a question regarding connecting two systems over local network.
>>
>> Just got a older computer which I decided to configure as a backup 
>> system for my main computer. I connected the two systems using CAT 5 
>> UTP through an Airlink Super G router (purportedly 100 Mbps) and tried 
>> running a backup over the network.
>>
>> Both systems are P4, each with 1 GB memory and each has a Realtek 
>> RTL8139 built in NIC.
>>
>> The best speed I can obtain is 10 Mbps in sustained transfer.
>>
>> Would I be better served to use an MBX (crossover) cable connecting 
>> the systems (after setting the IP, of course) to obtain something 
>> closer to the 100 Mbps promised by my equipment?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>     
>
>
>
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From alan_mitchell at mindspring.com  Tue Feb 17 15:57:02 2009
From: alan_mitchell at mindspring.com (Alan Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:57:02 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Networking local systems
In-Reply-To: <499B0B38.50705@gmail.com>
References: <066F214DAAAB46C59B0BE9DF5D1519F8@l6j9l2><200810221457.1kSITX2j3PGoUC0@msmx-page.atl.sa.earthlink.net><4CA4597B91B14ED88DE4A5C969BA71A1@DESKTOP>	<2852b8d40902170406x69e0c473n4fb1d8c6e185fdb4@mail.gmail.com><EC312B9ADC924D2B92B12250B88870ED@DESKTOP>
	<499B0B38.50705@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BAF4B9FDB1F4A6BB02E458D1C0D36FF@DESKTOP>

Wish mine were as fast. I'm connected via an Airlink Router using 6 ft CAT 5
UTP cables to each system. Maybe it's the Airlink.

Alan 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of H Davis
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:09 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Networking local systems

Alan,

I don't know the answer to your problem but on my, plain vanilla, wired
network using a Linksys WRT54G router, I get about 70 mbs, not counting any
overhead bits the system adds. My machines are close together with about 15'
of cable between each and the router.

HTH

H Davis

Alan Mitchell wrote:
> I checked the specs on the Realtek 8139 and according to Realtek, it's 
> a 100 Mbps card. In checking the settings, both are configured for 
> "auto" which, according to Microsoft, should automatically negotiate 
> for the fastest possible transfer rate.
>
> Since this has got me curious, I decided to run a test of sending data 
> back from the backup system to my main computer and, surprise!, I got 
> a sustained transfer rate of 19.8 Mbps. While this is twice the 
> original rate, it's still only 20% of rated speeds. That's really 
> weird. I think I might pull out my old MBX cable and see if I can 
> remember what's necessary to connect two system directly and see what 
> happens. Or maybe I'll just pull out another router and see if the same
speeds occur. Thanks for the suggestion.
> Somehow this just doesn't seem right.
>
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] 
> On Behalf Of The Computer Whisperer
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:07 AM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Networking local systems
>
> Are your network cards connecting at 100Mbps?
>
> perhaps one of your cards is a 10Mbps card.
>
> 2009/2/17 Alan Mitchell <alan_mitchell at mindspring.com>
>
>   
>> Have a question regarding connecting two systems over local network.
>>
>> Just got a older computer which I decided to configure as a backup 
>> system for my main computer. I connected the two systems using CAT 5 
>> UTP through an Airlink Super G router (purportedly 100 Mbps) and 
>> tried running a backup over the network.
>>
>> Both systems are P4, each with 1 GB memory and each has a Realtek
>> RTL8139 built in NIC.
>>
>> The best speed I can obtain is 10 Mbps in sustained transfer.
>>
>> Would I be better served to use an MBX (crossover) cable connecting 
>> the systems (after setting the IP, of course) to obtain something 
>> closer to the 100 Mbps promised by my equipment?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>>     
>
>
>
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From coover at fastmail.fm  Tue Feb 17 16:27:48 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:27:48 -0800
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net><2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com><499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>
	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>
Message-ID: <F0320A5B1D0645EAB3BDF3C19F69BB41@AcerLaptop>

I'd try the advice that others have given, but I'd like to add that the
problem may be from your ISP's DNS servers. Your Internet Service Provider
may be blocking certain Internet Domains. 

A free and legitimate service called Open DNS may solve your problem. Using
the Open DNS servers, rather than your ISPs, is probably a good idea for you
and, in fact, just about everyone. It will, for example, make your network
more secure, keeping you away from some dangerous web sites.

It is not difficult to use, though you must carefully follow the steps to
use it from their web site. You can set it up on individual computers or, as
I have done, set it up on my wireless router, so that all the computers on
my router (6, at present) use it automatically. Once I read the instructions
on the Open DNS site, it took me about 5 minutes maximum to set it up. And
it works beautifully. 

Open DNS http://www.opendns.com 

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Sylvia Gould
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:03 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: "forbidden"?

Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she got 
right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most all 
other links work fine.
S.G.

At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>Sylvia,
>
>It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you parse 
>that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder that is 
>inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>
>If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique to you 
>or not.
>
>H Davis
>
>The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings back to
>>default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to default...
if
>>you google for that you will find instructions depending on your version
>>
>>2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>
>>
>>>I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
kitchen
>>>appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, I get a
>>>page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
fluke,
>>>or is there something I can remedy?
>>>Sylvia G.
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>>>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
>_______________________________________________
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>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 
>06:55:00



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From leebunyard at comcast.net  Tue Feb 17 21:27:31 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:27:31 -0800
Subject: TSGL: "forbidden"?
In-Reply-To: <499B09F0.2040303@gmail.com>
References: <6.1.0.6.2.20090216095011.026ce3a8@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902161418j28a70372l1ab99997cd7fc145@mail.gmail.com>	<499A1E3D.70708@gmail.com>	<6.1.0.6.2.20090216210233.02725e08@POP3.gorge.net>	<2852b8d40902170405w1c5e009cg76b55818f2614c0c@mail.gmail.com>	<499AAFFF.9030509@comcast.net>
	<499B09F0.2040303@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <499B7213.8090602@comcast.net>

Yes, I have considered the virus angle, have run virus scans using 
several on-line web AV sites, in addition to my Avast AV product 
installed on the desktop pc.  They have all found nothing.  And I am 
able to access McAfee, Symantec and other security website OK using 
MSIE--the Firefox browser will not open at all on any website, starts to 
open and then closes immediately.  But MSIE won't open the Secunia site 
at all.  I think the Secunia site makes heavy use of Java, Javascript 
and Flash, which I think is somehow related to the problem.  I'm going 
to post a question about the problem on one of the Mozilla forum sites 
and see if anyone there can help.

Yes, lotsa snow in the Sierra mountains now.  Blue Canyon at 5000 feet 
has gone from 18 inches of snow two weeks ago to almost 8 feet now.  
Let's hope it continues and becomes a true drought buster so California 
doesn't go into its third drought year.  Supposed to partially clear 
Wednesday thru Friday, then storm up again over the weekend.  I'm 
looking forward to some good skiing once the we get some good blue sky 
weather again.  In my younger days (I started skiing at age 6 and have 
skied now over 50 years), I'd be up skiing even during the 
storms--always loved the deep powder snow--but I'm getting too old for 
that now, will wait for the nice weather.  LOL
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

H Davis wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
> Have you considered that you might have some kind of virus? While it's 
> low probability, some of these virus' prevent access to sites that 
> might reveal or remove them, like Secunia. Can you access McAfee, 
> Symantec, etc?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> H Davis
>
> PS. Are you getting a lot of snow from this latest storm we see on the 
> weather channel?
>
> Lee Bunyard wrote:
>> Good advice from Justin--You can have all kinds of problems if Java 
>> and/or Adobe Flash get screwed up on your pc.  I somehow got Java 
>> messed up a couple of months ago on my desktop pc while trying to do 
>> an update of Java and can no longer use the Firefox browser at all.  
>> When I try to bring Firefox up for certain websites--like the Secunia 
>> website below that many of us use to identify needed software 
>> updates--Firefox starts to come up and then just abruptly closes 
>> down.  I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling Firefox and 
>> uninstalling/reinstalling Java and Flash to no avail.  System Restore 
>> has not helped fix the problem either.  I suspect the registry has 
>> gotten messed up also but so far have been unable to identify a 
>> solution to the problem.  As a result, I've been forced to use the 
>> MSIE browser, altho I like Firefox much better.  The weird thing is 
>> that even the MSIE browser starts to open up and then abruptly shuts 
>> down when I try to open the Secunia website, altho MSIE works fine 
>> for almost every other website.  Go figure.
>> Uninstalling and reinstalling Java and Flash seems like a good first 
>> step to try.
>> Lee in the Mountains of Northern California
>>
>> http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/
>> ****************************************************************************** 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>> Try uninstalling Java and Adobe Flash from control panel, then 
>>> reinstall
>>> when the website you visit asks you.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>
>>>  
>>>> Must be my computer or settings. I asked my daughter to try and she 
>>>> got
>>>> right in, but didn't work for me with either Firefox or I.E.  Most 
>>>> all other
>>>> links work fine.
>>>> S.G.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 06:17 PM 2/16/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>> Sylvia,
>>>>>
>>>>> It's possible that the error is not in error (I'll pause while you 
>>>>> parse
>>>>> that). The link may be defective and pointing to a page or folder 
>>>>> that is
>>>>> inaccessible to the outside world. I've seen it occasionally.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you post the link someone else can try it to see if it's unique 
>>>>> to you
>>>>> or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> H Davis
>>>>>
>>>>> The Computer Whisperer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>> You could try setting your Internet Explorer security settings 
>>>>>> back to
>>>>>> default or even all of your internet explorer settings back to 
>>>>>> default...
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you google for that you will find instructions depending on your 
>>>>>> version
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/2/17 Sylvia Gould <nade at gorge.net>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I'm trying to get to customer service for a replacement part for a
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>> kitchen
>>>>>>> appliance. When I click on C.S. or Contact, or some other pages, 
>>>>>>> I get a
>>>>>>> page saying I'm forbidden to enter, to check firewall.... Is this a
>>>>>>> fluke,
>>>>>>> or is there something I can remedy?
>>>>>>> Sylvia G.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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From alshml at ptd.net  Wed Feb 18 09:44:26 2009
From: alshml at ptd.net (Al)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:44:26 -0500
Subject: TSGL: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
Message-ID: <982EDAC9444743DFA1A410939B772402@albertc508ad4d>

New-ish computer, Windows XP Pro, SP3. 
I purchased a Plug&Play USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable to use my older printer, but my printer is not printing.  When I plug the USB connector to the computer I get the usual tone one hears.  I went to Control Panel, clicked Printers & Faxes,  which shows a printer icon labeled with my HP Deskjet 870 Cxi (with check mark indicating it's the default printer), and another printer icon labeled Microsoft XPS Document Writer (I don't know why this is listed.)
When I right click on the HP and select properties, select Ports, it shows:
under the Port column- one checked box, USB001
under the Description column- Virtual printer port for USB
under Printer column- HP Deskjet 870Cxi

Any ideas on what I can do to get my printer to print?

Thanks,
Al

From justin at whisperer.com.au  Thu Feb 19 02:29:48 2009
From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:29:48 +1100
Subject: TSGL: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
In-Reply-To: <982EDAC9444743DFA1A410939B772402@albertc508ad4d>
References: <982EDAC9444743DFA1A410939B772402@albertc508ad4d>
Message-ID: <2852b8d40902182329w42ee8691o571d2b9052f0dda2@mail.gmail.com>

Al,

Try deleting the printer from "Printers" in control panel.

Unplug the printer and plug it in again.

Alternatively....

Delete the printer and run the install disk / file.

good luck,

Justin

2009/2/19 Al <alshml at ptd.net>

> New-ish computer, Windows XP Pro, SP3.
> I purchased a Plug&Play USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable to use my
> older printer, but my printer is not printing.  When I plug the USB
> connector to the computer I get the usual tone one hears.  I went to Control
> Panel, clicked Printers & Faxes,  which shows a printer icon labeled with my
> HP Deskjet 870 Cxi (with check mark indicating it's the default printer),
> and another printer icon labeled Microsoft XPS Document Writer (I don't know
> why this is listed.)
> When I right click on the HP and select properties, select Ports, it shows:
> under the Port column- one checked box, USB001
> under the Description column- Virtual printer port for USB
> under Printer column- HP Deskjet 870Cxi
>
> Any ideas on what I can do to get my printer to print?
>
> Thanks,
> Al
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From HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de  Thu Feb 19 03:12:28 2009
From: HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Heidi_Schr=F6der?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:12:28 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Fw:  USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
Message-ID: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>

Hi Al,

as far as I remember, from having had several HP printers in former years, 
HP printers are asking for a very special way of installation - maybe you 
just have to follow the manual even though it is a USB device that should 
work much easier normally!?

Good luck
Heidi

--------------------------------------------------
From: "The Computer Whisperer" <justin at whisperer.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:29 AM
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Subject: Re: TSGL: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable

> Al,
>
> Try deleting the printer from "Printers" in control panel.
> Unplug the printer and plug it in again.
> Alternatively....
> Delete the printer and run the install disk / file.
> good luck,
>
> Justin
>
> 2009/2/19 Al <alshml at ptd.net>
>
>> New-ish computer, Windows XP Pro, SP3.
>> I purchased a Plug&Play USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable to use my
>> older printer, but my printer is not printing.  When I plug the USB
>> connector to the computer I get the usual tone one hears.  I went to 
>> Control
>> Panel, clicked Printers & Faxes,  which shows a printer icon labeled with 
>> my
>> HP Deskjet 870 Cxi (with check mark indicating it's the default printer),
>> and another printer icon labeled Microsoft XPS Document Writer (I don't 
>> know
>> why this is listed.)
>> When I right click on the HP and select properties, select Ports, it 
>> shows:
>> under the Port column- one checked box, USB001
>> under the Description column- Virtual printer port for USB
>> under Printer column- HP Deskjet 870Cxi
>>
>> Any ideas on what I can do to get my printer to print?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Al
 



From justin at whisperer.com.au  Thu Feb 19 03:23:45 2009
From: justin at whisperer.com.au (The Computer Whisperer)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:23:45 +1100
Subject: TSGL: Fw: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
In-Reply-To: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>
References: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>
Message-ID: <2852b8d40902190023v3b2560b3p2e1a6c3d313be384@mail.gmail.com>

Keep in mind that using a Parallel to USB adapter does not change your
printer from a parallel device to a USB device.....

All that the adapter does is adds a Parallel port to your computer.

2009/2/19 Heidi Schr?der <HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de>

> Hi Al,
>
> as far as I remember, from having had several HP printers in former years,
> HP printers are asking for a very special way of installation - maybe you
> just have to follow the manual even though it is a USB device that should
> work much easier normally!?
>
> Good luck
> Heidi
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "The Computer Whisperer" <justin at whisperer.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:29 AM
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Subject: Re: TSGL: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
>
>  Al,
>>
>> Try deleting the printer from "Printers" in control panel.
>> Unplug the printer and plug it in again.
>> Alternatively....
>> Delete the printer and run the install disk / file.
>> good luck,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> 2009/2/19 Al <alshml at ptd.net>
>>
>>  New-ish computer, Windows XP Pro, SP3.
>>> I purchased a Plug&Play USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable to use my
>>> older printer, but my printer is not printing.  When I plug the USB
>>> connector to the computer I get the usual tone one hears.  I went to
>>> Control
>>> Panel, clicked Printers & Faxes,  which shows a printer icon labeled with
>>> my
>>> HP Deskjet 870 Cxi (with check mark indicating it's the default printer),
>>> and another printer icon labeled Microsoft XPS Document Writer (I don't
>>> know
>>> why this is listed.)
>>> When I right click on the HP and select properties, select Ports, it
>>> shows:
>>> under the Port column- one checked box, USB001
>>> under the Description column- Virtual printer port for USB
>>> under Printer column- HP Deskjet 870Cxi
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what I can do to get my printer to print?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>>
>>
>
>
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From HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de  Sun Feb 22 08:42:34 2009
From: HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de (=?iso-8859-15?Q?Heidi_Schr=F6der?=)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:42:34 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem
Message-ID: <D09F9113EA0548A29DE0987C984B6055@HeidisPC>

Hi there everybody,

I have a problem with my Scanner (Medion MD90009 which as I found online is identical with Microtek Scan Maker 6100), but don't know when it started. It could be since I changed from Word 2002 to Word 2003 but it could as well be any other reason (maybe a Windows Vista update or whatever). Am sure, the scanner did scan into a Word 2002 document under Windows Vista, so think more Word could be the reason than the fact that there is no Vista-driver available for the scanner.

Tried every programme on my computer that I can use to scan and all work perfect - only problem is the button for choosing where to save or send scans (which is only needed for the direct scan without using any other programmes), which does not open a choice too easily but acts more like an OK button quite often. And then only in Word the scanner does its work as if it is scanning but in the end nothing appears in the Word document. And I also can't find a new file with the scan anywhere on the computer (even tried pasting from clipboard into Word but nothing).

I asked in a forum for Microsoft-Office programmes and did not get a single answer, so that seems to tell me it is no Word-problem after all, as the people in this forum usually give answers on just every problem you have with Word.

So anybody of you having an idea - is it the one and only problem that the missing Vista driver creates or is it somehow to do with the button not working correctly (maybe that being a driver problem after all?). I sure did uninstall and re-install the driver from the original CD already, but it did not change anything.

Have a lovely Sunday

Heidi

From alshml at ptd.net  Tue Feb 24 22:57:38 2009
From: alshml at ptd.net (Al)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:57:38 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Fw: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
References: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>
	<2852b8d40902190023v3b2560b3p2e1a6c3d313be384@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <168670B33BA447B78D787729AD8A7F5E@albertc508ad4d>

Sorry for the late response, and thanks to all.  I had to delete the printer 
from "Printers" in control panel,
unplug the printer and plug it in again, 2 times, to get it to work.  Seems 
fine now.

Thanks again,
Al


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Computer Whisperer" <justin at whisperer.com.au>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Fw: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable


Keep in mind that using a Parallel to USB adapter does not change your
printer from a parallel device to a USB device.....

All that the adapter does is adds a Parallel port to your computer.

2009/2/19 Heidi Schr?der <HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de>

> Hi Al,
>
> as far as I remember, from having had several HP printers in former years,
> HP printers are asking for a very special way of installation - maybe you
> just have to follow the manual even though it is a USB device that should
> work much easier normally!?
>
> Good luck
> Heidi
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "The Computer Whisperer" <justin at whisperer.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:29 AM
> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
> Subject: Re: TSGL: USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable
>
>  Al,
>>
>> Try deleting the printer from "Printers" in control panel.
>> Unplug the printer and plug it in again.
>> Alternatively....
>> Delete the printer and run the install disk / file.
>> good luck,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> 2009/2/19 Al <alshml at ptd.net>
>>
>>  New-ish computer, Windows XP Pro, SP3.
>>> I purchased a Plug&Play USB to Parallel Printer Adapter Cable to use my
>>> older printer, but my printer is not printing.  When I plug the USB
>>> connector to the computer I get the usual tone one hears.  I went to
>>> Control
>>> Panel, clicked Printers & Faxes,  which shows a printer icon labeled 
>>> with
>>> my
>>> HP Deskjet 870 Cxi (with check mark indicating it's the default 
>>> printer),
>>> and another printer icon labeled Microsoft XPS Document Writer (I don't
>>> know
>>> why this is listed.)
>>> When I right click on the HP and select properties, select Ports, it
>>> shows:
>>> under the Port column- one checked box, USB001
>>> under the Description column- Virtual printer port for USB
>>> under Printer column- HP Deskjet 870Cxi
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what I can do to get my printer to print?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Al
>>>
>>
>
>
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> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



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From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 25 06:06:59 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:06:59 -0500
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <168670B33BA447B78D787729AD8A7F5E@albertc508ad4d>
References: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>
	<2852b8d40902190023v3b2560b3p2e1a6c3d313be384@mail.gmail.com>
	<168670B33BA447B78D787729AD8A7F5E@albertc508ad4d>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090225055731.01eec388@pop.earthlink.net>

I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)

Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
not update without permission)

Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop 
shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.

It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open

I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't open

Any ideas? 

From embitt at westnet.com.au  Wed Feb 25 07:46:04 2009
From: embitt at westnet.com.au (embitt at westnet.com.au)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:46:04 +0900 (WST)
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <905447669.750681235565948867.JavaMail.root@zim-store01.web.westnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <95149869.750711235565964233.JavaMail.root@zim-store01.web.westnet.com.au>

Size of .pst file?

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35104 
and link from it -- 
http://www.slipstick.com/problems/repair2gbpst.asp

Merna


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From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 9:06:59 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem

I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)

Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
not update without permission)

Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop 
shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.

It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open

I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't open

Any ideas? 
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From hasanat at sparkbd.net  Wed Feb 25 07:57:25 2009
From: hasanat at sparkbd.net (A Hasanat Khan)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:57:25 +0600
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
References: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC><2852b8d40902190023v3b2560b3p2e1a6c3d313be384@mail.gmail.com><168670B33BA447B78D787729AD8A7F5E@albertc508ad4d>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090225055731.01eec388@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <7070919C0090413F93C1C9BDFB3D4D7C@micron>

I had a similar problem. Just reinstall MS Office. That should do the trick.

Hasanat
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From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:06 PM
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem


> I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
> remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)
>
> Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
> not update without permission)
>
> Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my 
> desktop shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.
>
> It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open
>
> I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't 
> open
>
> Any ideas? _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
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From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Wed Feb 25 16:57:06 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (willard seehorn)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:57:06 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
Message-ID: <2868615.1235599026652.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I don't know. Where is it stored & I;ll look.  How big should it be?

-----Original Message-----
>From: embitt at westnet.com.au
>Sent: Feb 25, 2009 7:46 AM
>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
>Size of .pst file?
>
>http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35104 
>and link from it -- 
>http://www.slipstick.com/problems/repair2gbpst.asp
>
>Merna
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
>To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 9:06:59 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
>Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
>I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
>remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)
>
>Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
>not update without permission)
>
>Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop 
>shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.
>
>It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open
>
>I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't open
>
>Any ideas? 
>_______________________________________________
>Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
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From rbrunton at accesswave.ca  Wed Feb 25 19:02:50 2009
From: rbrunton at accesswave.ca (Ron Brunton)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:02:50 -0400
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090225055731.01eec388@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <686C7D5AF5464174862665EFFD1FF4E8@HeidisPC>
	<2852b8d40902190023v3b2560b3p2e1a6c3d313be384@mail.gmail.com>
	<168670B33BA447B78D787729AD8A7F5E@albertc508ad4d>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090225055731.01eec388@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <001c01c997a5$90463cd0$b0d2b670$@ca>

If you leave your computer on, open task manager (Ctrl+Shift+Esc), look at
processes and end any instances of Outlook you find.
Ron

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Willard Seehorn
Sent: February-25-09 7:07 AM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem

I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)

Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
not update without permission)

Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop 
shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.

It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open

I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't
open

Any ideas? 
_______________________________________________
Tech Support Guy Mailing List
http://www.tsgserver.com/list/

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From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Thu Feb 26 08:56:35 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:56:35 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem
References: <D09F9113EA0548A29DE0987C984B6055@HeidisPC>
Message-ID: <ac0501c9981a$0d341ae0$0201a8c0@til4200>

Hallo Heidi,

don't think that I'll be of much help, but maybe there are a few tiny bits:

I would rather doubt that it's a Word problem, but there's still a small chance for this option too.

Since I've started working with scanners, I've found their installation quite tricky at times. And had to abandon at least one bcs of a missing driver (for XP back then). So, a missing driver actually makes me frown. You're happy that you can still scan at all.  Re. reinstalling things, I think one would've to reinstall word and the scanner afterwards. With drivers missing, I'm not sure it's a good idea.

Not sure what you're talking of with "....button for choosing where to save or send scans". Is this a button on the scanner (I have 3 of them) or inside a (software) dialog? If it's a real (hardware) button, it could be corrupt too (corroded contacts...).

You say you could scan into Word 2002 before. Couldn't you install Word 2002 again? I've had 2 versions of Office at some time, but not sure wheter this is still an option.  Another question is what else did change besides the switch to Word 2003? 

Schoenen Gruss nach Berlin!
Regards
Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heidi Schr?der" <HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de>
To: "TSGL" <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem


> Hi there everybody,
> 
> I have a problem with my Scanner (Medion MD90009 which as I found online is identical with Microtek Scan Maker 6100), but don't know when it started. It could be since I changed from Word 2002 to Word 2003 but it could as well be any other reason (maybe a Windows Vista update or whatever). Am sure, the scanner did scan into a Word 2002 document under Windows Vista, so think more Word could be the reason than the fact that there is no Vista-driver available for the scanner.
> 
> Tried every programme on my computer that I can use to scan and all work perfect - only problem is the button for choosing where to save or send scans (which is only needed for the direct scan without using any other programmes), which does not open a choice too easily but acts more like an OK button quite often. And then only in Word the scanner does its work as if it is scanning but in the end nothing appears in the Word document. And I also can't find a new file with the scan anywhere on the computer (even tried pasting from clipboard into Word but nothing).
> 
> I asked in a forum for Microsoft-Office programmes and did not get a single answer, so that seems to tell me it is no Word-problem after all, as the people in this forum usually give answers on just every problem you have with Word.
> 
> So anybody of you having an idea - is it the one and only problem that the missing Vista driver creates or is it somehow to do with the button not working correctly (maybe that being a driver problem after all?). I sure did uninstall and re-install the driver from the original CD already, but it did not change anything.
> 
> Have a lovely Sunday
> 
> Heidi



From HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de  Thu Feb 26 11:18:45 2009
From: HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Heidi_Schr=F6der?=)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:18:45 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem
References: <D09F9113EA0548A29DE0987C984B6055@HeidisPC>
	<ac0501c9981a$0d341ae0$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <938AC4E0BB8840648DA7124F5BF0298D@HeidisPC>

Hallo Tilman,

had already forgotten I sent my question to the group as nobody did show up 
with an answer - thanks for answering now after all! Well, I went on trying 
all and everything and by now found that I just have to choose a "different 
scanner" in Word. Normally I scan using the Scanwizard programme that is 
part of the driver as far as I understand and using it, I can change a lot 
of settings for each scan, but when I want to get a scan to Word nowadays 
have to choose the scanner USB 3200 Scanner (which is the name of the 
scanner) and not ScanWizard5 like what I always did before and this way it 
does work perfectly - just have to keep it in mind that I have to change 
this somehow whenever I am scanning from another programme, that might not 
work with this setting then!? it seems to be quite strange how the scanner 
settings in one programme affect it to work or not in other programmes.

so thanks to everybody for wondering about my problems and have a good 
Friday and weekend then
best wishes
Heidi - from rainy Berlin where we just got rid of the last bits of snow

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tilman Brandl" <tbrandl2 at chello.at>
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:56 PM
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Subject: Re: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem

> Hallo Heidi,
>
> don't think that I'll be of much help, but maybe there are a few tiny 
> bits:
>
> I would rather doubt that it's a Word problem, but there's still a small 
> chance for this option too.
>
> Since I've started working with scanners, I've found their installation 
> quite tricky at times. And had to abandon at least one bcs of a missing 
> driver (for XP back then). So, a missing driver actually makes me frown. 
> You're happy that you can still scan at all.  Re. reinstalling things, I 
> think one would've to reinstall word and the scanner afterwards. With 
> drivers missing, I'm not sure it's a good idea.
>
> Not sure what you're talking of with "....button for choosing where to 
> save or send scans". Is this a button on the scanner (I have 3 of them) or 
> inside a (software) dialog? If it's a real (hardware) button, it could be 
> corrupt too (corroded contacts...).
>
> You say you could scan into Word 2002 before. Couldn't you install Word 
> 2002 again? I've had 2 versions of Office at some time, but not sure 
> wheter this is still an option.  Another question is what else did change 
> besides the switch to Word 2003?
>
> Schoenen Gruss nach Berlin!
> Regards
> Tilman
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heidi Schr?der" <HiHalloHeidi at gmx.de>
> To: "TSGL" <List at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:42 PM
> Subject: TSGL: Scanner and Word problem
>
>
>> Hi there everybody,
>>
>> I have a problem with my Scanner (Medion MD90009 which as I found online 
>> is identical with Microtek Scan Maker 6100), but don't know when it 
>> started. It could be since I changed from Word 2002 to Word 2003 but it 
>> could as well be any other reason (maybe a Windows Vista update or 
>> whatever). Am sure, the scanner did scan into a Word 2002 document under 
>> Windows Vista, so think more Word could be the reason than the fact that 
>> there is no Vista-driver available for the scanner.
>>
>> Tried every programme on my computer that I can use to scan and all work 
>> perfect - only problem is the button for choosing where to save or send 
>> scans (which is only needed for the direct scan without using any other 
>> programmes), which does not open a choice too easily but acts more like 
>> an OK button quite often. And then only in Word the scanner does its work 
>> as if it is scanning but in the end nothing appears in the Word document. 
>> And I also can't find a new file with the scan anywhere on the computer 
>> (even tried pasting from clipboard into Word but nothing).
>>
>> I asked in a forum for Microsoft-Office programmes and did not get a 
>> single answer, so that seems to tell me it is no Word-problem after all, 
>> as the people in this forum usually give answers on just every problem 
>> you have with Word.
>>
>> So anybody of you having an idea - is it the one and only problem that 
>> the missing Vista driver creates or is it somehow to do with the button 
>> not working correctly (maybe that being a driver problem after all?). I 
>> sure did uninstall and re-install the driver from the original CD 
>> already, but it did not change anything.
>>
>> Have a lovely Sunday
>>
>> Heidi
>
>
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From coover at fastmail.fm  Thu Feb 26 15:56:09 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:56:09 -0800
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <2868615.1235599026652.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <2868615.1235599026652.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <70FC9F5477A5412D9FD7A06585C99625@AcerLaptop>

1. Advice to reinstall probably the best advice.

2. I hate the search tool that MS has given us in their Operating Systems.
To find your .pst file, use the freeware "Everything" which you can get at
http://www.voidtools.com/ . To search, search for "*.pst" (without the quote
marks).

3. Don't know how large your .pst file can grow. Mine is about 63000 KB at
present. 

Russ Coover 


-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of willard seehorn
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:57 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem

I don't know. Where is it stored & I;ll look.  How big should it be?

-----Original Message-----
>From: embitt at westnet.com.au
>Sent: Feb 25, 2009 7:46 AM
>To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
>Size of .pst file?
>
>http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35104 
>and link from it -- 
>http://www.slipstick.com/problems/repair2gbpst.asp
>
>Merna
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
>To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 9:06:59 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
>Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
>I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
>remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)
>
>Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
>not update without permission)
>
>Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop

>shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.
>
>It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open
>
>I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't
open
>
>Any ideas? 
>_______________________________________________
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From leebunyard at comcast.net  Thu Feb 26 17:17:45 2009
From: leebunyard at comcast.net (Lee Bunyard)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:17:45 -0800
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <70FC9F5477A5412D9FD7A06585C99625@AcerLaptop>
References: <2868615.1235599026652.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<70FC9F5477A5412D9FD7A06585C99625@AcerLaptop>
Message-ID: <49A71509.4090305@comcast.net>

Thanks for the tip on the "Everything" freeware program, Russ.  I hate 
the XP and Vista OS search tools also, I downloaded the "Everything" 
program, it looks pretty good.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

Russell W. Coover wrote:
> 1. Advice to reinstall probably the best advice.
>
> 2. I hate the search tool that MS has given us in their Operating Systems.
> To find your .pst file, use the freeware "Everything" which you can get at
> http://www.voidtools.com/ . To search, search for "*.pst" (without the quote
> marks).
>
> 3. Don't know how large your .pst file can grow. Mine is about 63000 KB at
> present. 
>
> Russ Coover 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of willard seehorn
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
> I don't know. Where is it stored & I;ll look.  How big should it be?
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: embitt at westnet.com.au
>> Sent: Feb 25, 2009 7:46 AM
>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>>
>> Size of .pst file?
>>
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35104 
>> and link from it -- 
>> http://www.slipstick.com/problems/repair2gbpst.asp
>>
>> Merna
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 9:06:59 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
>> Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>>
>> I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but had to 
>> remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)
>>
>> Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me but 
>> not update without permission)
>>
>> Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my desktop
>>     
>
>   
>> shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open
>>
>> I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook doesn't
>>     
> open
>   
>> Any ideas? 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
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>   

From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Thu Feb 26 17:19:21 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:19:21 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Microsoft Silverlight
In-Reply-To: <200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink. net>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
	<200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>

Automatic Updates wants me to do an update to Silverlight.

I didn't realize I'd dowloaded the #$@ thing.  If I'm reading MS website 
correctly Silverlight is a browser add on (for IE only I presume)

Since I use (in this order) Firefox, Opera, US Mail, Cello (ok, a bit of 
snark & history in those two -- who else remembers Cello?) then IE do I 
need it?

Willard 

From ian at iarp.ca  Thu Feb 26 17:47:33 2009
From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:47:33 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Microsoft Silverlight
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
	<200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <adc2940c0902261447s5a9715dcjc490a55b115000e9@mail.gmail.com>

So far, i've only ever seen it used on Microsoft's own website but it does
work in FF, IE, Chrome.. i don't have Opera but i don't see why it wouldn't
just use the program installed on the computer.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Willard Seehorn <wseehorn at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Automatic Updates wants me to do an update to Silverlight.
>
> I didn't realize I'd dowloaded the #$@ thing.  If I'm reading MS website
> correctly Silverlight is a browser add on (for IE only I presume)
>
> Since I use (in this order) Firefox, Opera, US Mail, Cello (ok, a bit of
> snark & history in those two -- who else remembers Cello?) then IE do I need
> it?
>
> Willard _______________________________________________
> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>



-- 
Thanks
Ian R-P
Patience is a virtue.

From coover at fastmail.fm  Thu Feb 26 22:05:35 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:05:35 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Microsoft Silverlight
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se><4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com><6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net><200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <DAA633A3E7814AA1B05AEFF8E2599527@AcerLaptop>

Certain websites require it for their viewer. One of them, for example, is
MLB.com (Major League Baseball). If you, like me, enjoy watching Baseball
games over the internet, Silverlight is necessary. 

Other sites have contracts with MS to use Silverlight, too. I'm not sure who
they are, so you may run into a need. Of course, you can always install when
you need it, but it you need it now and it takes 30 minutes to download and
install, you will miss 30 minutes of whatever it is that you want to watch.

And, finally, there are interesting things to watch on the Silverlight site.
You probably won't miss watching them if you don't go to the web page, but
they might add something to your enjoyment. 

Silverlight is not a bad thing. You may not use it, but you never know if
there is a point in the future when you will. I'd download it, but it is
your choice not to. The point I'm trying to make here is that it won't hurt
you to do so (unless your hard drive is cramped for space). It won't start
with the computer and it won't use any memory unless you actually use it.

Russ Coover  

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Willard Seehorn
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:19 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: TSGL: Microsoft Silverlight

Automatic Updates wants me to do an update to Silverlight.

I didn't realize I'd dowloaded the #$@ thing.  If I'm reading MS website 
correctly Silverlight is a browser add on (for IE only I presume)

Since I use (in this order) Firefox, Opera, US Mail, Cello (ok, a bit of 
snark & history in those two -- who else remembers Cello?) then IE do I 
need it?

Willard 
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From wseehorn at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 27 06:43:04 2009
From: wseehorn at earthlink.net (Willard Seehorn)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 06:43:04 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Microsoft Silverlight
In-Reply-To: <adc2940c0902261447s5a9715dcjc490a55b115000e9@mail.gmail.co
 m>
References: <314AF86E2FDEB9458540143E41EED8CE4FAB2D@esealmw103.eemea.ericsson.se>
	<4989eb84.16048e0a.44a5.12c0@mx.google.com>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090212164757.01fd4e80@pop.earthlink.net>
	<200902121703.1lxJEO5iD3Nl34b2@mx-clapper.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<6.2.1.2.2.20090226171625.01f754f8@pop.earthlink.net>
	<adc2940c0902261447s5a9715dcjc490a55b115000e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.2.20090227064157.01f37e20@pop.earthlink.net>


Thanks Ian & Russell. I'll give it a try.

Willard 



From hbcanon at homemail.com  Fri Feb 27 09:31:24 2009
From: hbcanon at homemail.com (HBCANON)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:31:24 -0500
Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
In-Reply-To: <49A71509.4090305@comcast.net>
References: <2868615.1235599026652.JavaMail.root@elwamui-lapwing.atl.sa.earthlink.net><70FC9F5477A5412D9FD7A06585C99625@AcerLaptop>
	<49A71509.4090305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000601c998e8$1165f920$0201a8c0@hbcanon>

My .PST file is  20 meg and healthy. 
Office usually installs these under Documents\Local SETTINGS\Application
DATA\Microsoft\OUTLOOK
HBCanon
Geneva, FL.

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Lee
Bunyard
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 17:18
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem

Thanks for the tip on the "Everything" freeware program, Russ.  I hate the XP and Vista OS
search tools also, I downloaded the "Everything" 
program, it looks pretty good.
Lee in the Mountains of Northern California

Russell W. Coover wrote:
> 1. Advice to reinstall probably the best advice.
>
> 2. I hate the search tool that MS has given us in their Operating Systems.
> To find your .pst file, use the freeware "Everything" which you can 
> get at http://www.voidtools.com/ . To search, search for "*.pst" 
> (without the quote marks).
>
> 3. Don't know how large your .pst file can grow. Mine is about 63000 
> KB at present.
>
> Russ Coover
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] 
> On Behalf Of willard seehorn
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
> Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>
> I don't know. Where is it stored & I;ll look.  How big should it be?
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: embitt at westnet.com.au
>> Sent: Feb 25, 2009 7:46 AM
>> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Subject: Re: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>>
>> Size of .pst file?
>>
>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35104
>> and link from it --
>> http://www.slipstick.com/problems/repair2gbpst.asp
>>
>> Merna
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Willard Seehorn" <wseehorn at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 9:06:59 PM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
>> Subject: TSGL: MS Outlook problem
>>
>> I'm running WindowsXP, SP2, fully patched. (I had SP3 installed but 
>> had to remove it as it slowed printing to an unacceptable speed)
>>
>> Office 2007, probably fully patched (I have Windows set to notify me 
>> but not update without permission)
>>
>> Outlook will not open, it doesn't matter whether I use the menu, my 
>> desktop
>>     
>
>   
>> shortcut or Windows Explorer to find the program.
>>
>> It doesn't matter whether I double click or right click & choose open
>>
>> I get the hourglass cursor, then back to the arrow cursor. Outlook 
>> doesn't
>>     
> open
>   
>> Any ideas? 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Tech Support Guy Mailing List
>> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>>     
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Fri Feb 27 10:35:35 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:35:35 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
Message-ID: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>

Hi all,

Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?

John
Od/G

P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!

From coover at fastmail.fm  Fri Feb 27 15:01:32 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:01:32 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
In-Reply-To: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
Message-ID: <229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>

For those of us in North America, MW radio is called AM (Amplitude
Modulated) radio here in the colonies. 

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:36 AM
To: ListTSG
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference

Hi all,

Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my
worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is
considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched
off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?

John
Od/G

P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
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From ian at iarp.ca  Fri Feb 27 15:07:11 2009
From: ian at iarp.ca (Ian Ramsey-Planck)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:07:11 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
In-Reply-To: <229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
	<229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>
Message-ID: <adc2940c0902271207p73a28d1ch2d72bca08322cef2@mail.gmail.com>

This maybe a different problem then what Jon's describing, but i'm unable to
have my cell phone on at the same time as my radio in my room because
whenever a call comes through or it contacts a cell tower, beeps come out of
the speakers at a deafening level.
If i hold the phone close enough to headsets, the same thing happens. Weird.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Russell W. Coover <coover at fastmail.fm>wrote:

> For those of us in North America, MW radio is called AM (Amplitude
> Modulated) radio here in the colonies.
>
> Russ Coover
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of Jon
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:36 AM
> To: ListTSG
> Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
>
> Hi all,
>
> Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my
> worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is
> considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is
> switched
> off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network.
> What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?
>
> John
> Od/G
>
> P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
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From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Sat Feb 28 05:22:14 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:22:14 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
Message-ID: <ae7a01c9998e$700b14f0$0201a8c0@til4200>

Hi,

from what I recall from earlier times:

This phenomenon is created by (electric/magnetic) fields getting influenced by hardware. Like with the induction wires that switch traffic lights to green whenever a car is close to the wires/coil under the tarmac.

Here Your notebook could act as the car, I guess.

Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <jonpan at onlinehome.de>
To: "ListTSG" <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference


> Hi all,
> 
> Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
> What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?
> 
> John
> Od/G
> 
> P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
>


From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Sat Feb 28 06:02:26 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:02:26 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
	<229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>
Message-ID: <3139E47C7D0345BFAE080096E613AF03@johnsp2>

I stand corrected, Russ! Many of my radios are post-1955 transistors, Regency, Zenith, Emerson, etc. from North America, only MW/AM, so they show just the frequencies, apart from the CD markings. The Europeans apparently made more use of long-wave and differentiated with the markings MW and LW.

Cheers,

John
Od/G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Russell W. Coover 
To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference


For those of us in North America, MW radio is called AM (Amplitude
Modulated) radio here in the colonies. 

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:36 AM
To: ListTSG
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference

Hi all,

Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my
worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is
considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched
off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?

John
Od/G

P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
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From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Sat Feb 28 06:13:33 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:13:33 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2><229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>
	<adc2940c0902271207p73a28d1ch2d72bca08322cef2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC72506D3DEB4B7E867A6FB305855AE5@johnsp2>

Ian, this may be getting a little off-topic, but we have DECT telephones here (digital enhanced communication technology, I believe). One television transponder operates on a frequency that gives an intermediate frequency in the receiver equal to that at which the telephones operate = terrible interference on all channels from this transponder. 

John
Od/G

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Ian Ramsey-Planck 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference


This maybe a different problem then what Jon's describing, but i'm unable to
have my cell phone on at the same time as my radio in my room because
whenever a call comes through or it contacts a cell tower, beeps come out of
the speakers at a deafening level.
If i hold the phone close enough to headsets, the same thing happens. Weird.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Russell W. Coover <coover at fastmail.fm>wrote:

> For those of us in North America, MW radio is called AM (Amplitude
> Modulated) radio here in the colonies.
>
> Russ Coover
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
> Behalf Of Jon
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:36 AM
> To: ListTSG
> Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
>
> Hi all,
>
> Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my
> worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is
> considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is
> switched
> off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network.
> What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?
>
> John
> Od/G
>
> P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
>
>
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From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Sat Feb 28 06:27:26 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:27:26 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2>
	<ae7a01c9998e$700b14f0$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <1D217976CC404486AB692808771DFA0F@johnsp2>

Hi Tilman,

Funny, when my car approaches the junction, the lights always change to red!

In this case, neither the radio nor the laptop are moving, so surely EM-waves have to be radiating from the laptop?

Cheers,

John
Od/G

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tilman Brandl 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference


Hi,

from what I recall from earlier times:

This phenomenon is created by (electric/magnetic) fields getting influenced by hardware. Like with the induction wires that switch traffic lights to green whenever a car is close to the wires/coil under the tarmac.

Here Your notebook could act as the car, I guess.

Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <jonpan at onlinehome.de>
To: "ListTSG" <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35 PM
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference


> Hi all,
> 
> Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
> What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?
> 
> John
> Od/G
> 
> P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
>

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From coover at fastmail.fm  Sat Feb 28 12:00:50 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:00:50 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
In-Reply-To: <3139E47C7D0345BFAE080096E613AF03@johnsp2>
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2><229937FBDC3D4A49866D3C9D7BF029DA@AcerLaptop>
	<3139E47C7D0345BFAE080096E613AF03@johnsp2>
Message-ID: <8C092DB832EE4752B23C50315986E05C@AcerLaptop>

No correction needed. MW (Medium Wave) is the correct European expression. I
just wanted to clarify the fact that MW is also called AM in the States and
Provinces. 

By the way, LW (Long Wave) and SW (Short Wave) are also modulated by
amplitude and could be called AM, too. Modulation refers to the way a
receiver coverts the radio signal to sound. Generally, it is done two ways
...1. by the strength of the signal (Amplitude Modulation) and 2. by how
often the frequency varies (Frequency Modulation). 

As most of you know, AM radio can be transmitted further than FM radio, but
FM offers the best fidelity (though Digital AM is very good). 

Russ Coover 

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:02 AM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference

I stand corrected, Russ! Many of my radios are post-1955 transistors,
Regency, Zenith, Emerson, etc. from North America, only MW/AM, so they show
just the frequencies, apart from the CD markings. The Europeans apparently
made more use of long-wave and differentiated with the markings MW and LW.

Cheers,

John
Od/G
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Russell W. Coover 
To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List' 
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference


For those of us in North America, MW radio is called AM (Amplitude
Modulated) radio here in the colonies. 

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Jon
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 7:36 AM
To: ListTSG
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference

Hi all,

Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my
worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is
considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched
off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?

John
Od/G

P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!
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From nature-coast at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 28 18:03:42 2009
From: nature-coast at earthlink.net (Cyndi)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:03:42 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Memory could not be written
In-Reply-To: <2852b8d40805102203i6f326abeg953219a136b2b633@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4.3.2.20080510003918.00c514a0@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510042939.00ca3c40@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510161152.00c63e08@mail.tpg.com.au>	<000c01c8b272$c5165490$4f42fdb0$@ca>	<4.3.2.20080510192743.00cb7618@mail.tpg.com.au>
	<2852b8d40805102203i6f326abeg953219a136b2b633@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49A9C2CE.1060503@earthlink.net>

Hi,
I have a pop up when trying to open a jpg file that says...

Instruction at OX7c910b0c referred memory at OXOAZC05c8
Memory could not be written

The file won't open.
Any suggestions as to what i can do to fix this? 
Thanks

-Cyndi-
Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.
-Anatole France-


>
>
>
>

From crtrav at charter.net  Sat Feb 28 21:27:25 2009
From: crtrav at charter.net (Craig)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:27:25 -0800
Subject: TSGL: Memory could not be written
In-Reply-To: <49A9C2CE.1060503@earthlink.net>
References: <4.3.2.20080510003918.00c514a0@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510042939.00ca3c40@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510161152.00c63e08@mail.tpg.com.au>	<000c01c8b272$c5165490$4f42fdb0$@ca>	<4.3.2.20080510192743.00cb7618@mail.tpg.com.au>	<2852b8d40805102203i6f326abeg953219a136b2b633@mail.gmail.com>
	<49A9C2CE.1060503@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <49A9F28D.1070204@charter.net>

Hi Cyndi,
My guess is that whatever program you're trying to open the jpg file 
with is at fault. Assuming the jpg is on your hard drive -vs. on a web 
page- try another program. IrfanView is trusted, stable, and free.

Your error messages show that the instruction was expected at the 
hexadecimal (0x) address of 7c910b0c, but was referred to the hex (0x) 
address of OAZC05c8, which something didn't like.

My favorite viewer occasionally refuses to open a jpg. I bought it many 
years ago, & I refuse to pay for the updated version. But dragging the 
offending jpg into IrfanView always seems to work.

Craig

Cyndi wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a pop up when trying to open a jpg file that says...
>
> Instruction at OX7c910b0c referred memory at OXOAZC05c8
> Memory could not be written
>
> The file won't open.
> Any suggestions as to what i can do to fix this? Thanks
>
> -Cyndi-
> Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.
> -Anatole France-
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From nature-coast at earthlink.net  Sat Feb 28 21:49:28 2009
From: nature-coast at earthlink.net (Cyndi)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:49:28 -0500
Subject: TSGL: Memory could not be written
In-Reply-To: <49A9F28D.1070204@charter.net>
References: <4.3.2.20080510003918.00c514a0@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510042939.00ca3c40@mail.tpg.com.au>	<4.3.2.20080510161152.00c63e08@mail.tpg.com.au>	<000c01c8b272$c5165490$4f42fdb0$@ca>	<4.3.2.20080510192743.00cb7618@mail.tpg.com.au>	<2852b8d40805102203i6f326abeg953219a136b2b633@mail.gmail.com>	<49A9C2CE.1060503@earthlink.net>
	<49A9F28D.1070204@charter.net>
Message-ID: <49A9F7B8.10803@earthlink.net>

Thanks ever so much, Graig!   I will try this.
I used to have this problem frequently awhile ago but things seemed to 
straighten out.   Today it happened again.  I'll try opening them in 
another program, first...then try IrfanView .
Thanks again,

-Cyndi-
Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.
-Anatole France-



Craig wrote:
> Hi Cyndi,
> My guess is that whatever program you're trying to open the jpg file 
> with is at fault. Assuming the jpg is on your hard drive -vs. on a web 
> page- try another program. IrfanView is trusted, stable, and free.
>
> Your error messages show that the instruction was expected at the 
> hexadecimal (0x) address of 7c910b0c, but was referred to the hex (0x) 
> address of OAZC05c8, which something didn't like.
>
> My favorite viewer occasionally refuses to open a jpg. I bought it 
> many years ago, & I refuse to pay for the updated version. But 
> dragging the offending jpg into IrfanView always seems to work.
>
> Craig
>
> Cyndi wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a pop up when trying to open a jpg file that says...
>>
>> Instruction at OX7c910b0c referred memory at OXOAZC05c8
>> Memory could not be written
>>
>> The file won't open.
>> Any suggestions as to what i can do to fix this? Thanks
>>
>> -Cyndi-
>> Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.
>> -Anatole France-
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Sat Feb 28 21:41:17 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 03:41:17 +0100
Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
References: <399BD0E386F5469B9AE1E022B8FEF6CF@johnsp2><ae7a01c9998e$700b14f0$0201a8c0@til4200>
	<1D217976CC404486AB692808771DFA0F@johnsp2>
Message-ID: <af1801c99a41$343f5f90$0201a8c0@til4200>


".... when my car approaches the junction, the lights always change to red!"

LOL. I know those too ;-)

"....neither the radio nor the laptop are moving, so surely EM-waves have to be radiating from the laptop?"

hmmmm - re. the traffic lights they might even work without a car *moving* across an inductive coil, I'm not sure. The mere presence of a huge metallic object would change the state of the inductive sensor. Basically such systems work based on induction, that's all I know ... 
While it's not exactly the same, think of the effect of touching a radio antenna with your hand: The presence of your hand alone is changing the EM field. Other example - my oldfashioned bathroom radio sometimes shows intereference effects when I close the (metal framed) shower cubicle door (with weak stations only).

As to the notebook under your table. I could think of different ways that it might create intereferences. One question here is, how *dead* is a notebook when switched off and disconnected? Mainly I would think that any of the different oscillating circuits inside the notebook gets stimulated by the EM fields around your radio and sends an echo, either with a frequency shift or a time lag. I could think of different echos, based on HF or IF level, or even AF.

Maybe others can add more and better advice. My IT engineering times are way too far back, and I may not be up to date with this stuff ;-/

You could btw put an end to the interference by shielding your workplace with e.g. a grounded piece of sheet metal big enough - even aluminium foil would do.

Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon" <jonpan at onlinehome.de>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference


> Hi Tilman,
> 
> Funny, when my car approaches the junction, the lights always change to red!
> 
> In this case, neither the radio nor the laptop are moving, so surely EM-waves have to be radiating from the laptop?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> Od/G
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Tilman Brandl 
> To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: TSGL: Laptop interference
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> from what I recall from earlier times:
> 
> This phenomenon is created by (electric/magnetic) fields getting influenced by hardware. Like with the induction wires that switch traffic lights to green whenever a car is close to the wires/coil under the tarmac.
> 
> Here Your notebook could act as the car, I guess.
> 
> Tilman
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jon" <jonpan at onlinehome.de>
> To: "ListTSG" <List at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35 PM
> Subject: TSGL: Laptop interference
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Interesting phenomenon: I have a laptop on a slide-in board under my worktable. When working on medium-wave radios on the table, there is considerable audio interference despite the fact that the laptop is switched off and disconnected from the power outlet and the wireless network. 
>> What can be radiating (and draining the battery)?
>> 
>> John
>> Od/G
>> 
>> P.S. try holding a MW radio in front of a TFT monitor!