From michaelsweeden at comcast.net  Thu May  7 16:28:14 2009
From: michaelsweeden at comcast.net (Michael Sweeden)
Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:28:14 -0400
Subject: TSGL: Quattro Pro X4 printing problem
Message-ID: <AF933D8F4F694E67B22BE28B7FE9DCD9@michael>

I have an issue unlike I've ever seen, though I am admittedly not a
WordPerfect product user since the DOS days. I have a client with an HP PC
running Vista and using an HP DeskJet D1560 printer. He also has WordPerfect
Office X4. The printer driver is the latest and the WordPerfect patches are
all installed. The printer performs exactly as it should with every
application except for Quattro Pro. This guy likes to use the draft setting
on the printer for speed, and can print a test page, a web page, a photo, a
WordPerfect document, etc. just fine. But when a spreadsheet is selected for
printing, 9 times out of 10 or more the print quality settings are ignored
and the job prints SLOWLY in presentation mode, and even then do some weird
things (like omitting pieces of a graph from the print job). Occasionally,
and I have no idea why, it will print in draft mode as set and the print job
looks fine. I've got a support request in to Corel, but I thought I'd ask if
anybody has ever seen this weirdness and know the solution.

Thanks,

Michael


From Engineman1 at aol.com  Sat May  9 21:20:06 2009
From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 21:20:06 EDT
Subject: TSGL: works problems
Message-ID: <bea.3c4b593f.373785c6@aol.com>

I have MS 2002 works suite and I use Word and MS maps.
It seems like that if I don't use either for a week or two I have to insert 
 the disks and reinstall them.
How can I eliminate this problem?
 
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From embitt at westnet.com.au  Sun May 10 04:51:26 2009
From: embitt at westnet.com.au (Merna Bitter)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 18:51:26 +1000
Subject: TSGL: works problems
References: <bea.3c4b593f.373785c6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c9d14c$85931b60$0401a8c0@number12>

I'm assuming the "Word and MS maps" that you say you use are components of
the Works 2002 Suite -- i.e. Microsoft Word 2002 and Microsoft Streets &
Trips 2002 -- and that you don't use other parts of that suite (e.g. Picture
It! or a now-old Encarta Encyclopedia 2002, which might well cause the same
problem if you didn't use them for a time).

I didn't have any luck Googling, but perhaps I just didn't pick the right
words to search since I didn't have much to go on.  You have not quoted the
message you receive which requires you to reinstall, nor have you indicated
which operating system you're using.  How long have you had the problem?
Did it start after some kind of update (MS or a security product) which
might have corrupted your Works installation?

Perhaps you yourself could try searching with details of whatever comes up
on your screen.

Alternatively, coming at your problem from a different (and purely
practical) direction, you could put the problem program/s (Works? Word? Ms
maps?) in your startup routine or folder and close them as soon as they open
if you don't want to use them.  I suppose it depends on whether you find
this less annoying than the necessity of reinstalling every time you have
not used them for a period long enough to trigger your problem.

Good luck.

Merna




----- Original Message -----
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To: <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject: TSGL: works problems


I have MS 2002 works suite and I use Word and MS maps.
It seems like that if I don't use either for a week or two I have to insert
 the disks and reinstall them.
How can I eliminate this problem?

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From Engineman1 at aol.com  Sun May 10 12:53:30 2009
From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:53:30 EDT
Subject: TSGL: works problems
Message-ID: <bbb.4d2110bb.3738608a@aol.com>

Yes, they both are components of the Works 2002 Suite.
When I click on one or the other to open them a box opens which says  
"installing....." a progress indicator bar appears and stalls about halfway  
through.
another box opens saying "please insert disk 1 (for Word or disk 2 for  
streets & trips)".
If I don't insert the specified disk and click OK the program will  
uninstall what it has already installed and will not open.
I have been having this problem for several years, ever since I got the  
suite.
I use it on 2 other computers and have the same problem there.
I once had a similar suite from another source (this one was provided by  
Dell) and it had the same problem.
 
Engineman
 
 
In a message dated 5/10/2009 1:53:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
embitt at westnet.com.au writes:

I'm  assuming the "Word and MS maps" that you say you use are components of
the  Works 2002 Suite -- i.e. Microsoft Word 2002 and Microsoft Streets  &
Trips 2002 -- and that you don't use other parts of that suite (e.g.  
Picture
It! or a now-old Encarta Encyclopedia 2002, which might well cause  the same
problem if you didn't use them for a time).

I didn't have  any luck Googling, but perhaps I just didn't pick the right
words to search  since I didn't have much to go on.  You have not quoted the
message  you receive which requires you to reinstall, nor have you indicated
which  operating system you're using.  How long have you had the problem?
Did  it start after some kind of update (MS or a security product) which
might  have corrupted your Works installation?

Perhaps you yourself could try  searching with details of whatever comes up
on your  screen.

Alternatively, coming at your problem from a different (and  purely
practical) direction, you could put the problem program/s (Works?  Word? Ms
maps?) in your startup routine or folder and close them as soon as  they 
open
if you don't want to use them.  I suppose it depends on  whether you find
this less annoying than the necessity of reinstalling  every time you have
not used them for a period long enough to trigger your  problem.

Good luck.

Merna




----- Original  Message -----
From: <Engineman1 at aol.com>
To:  <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject:  TSGL: works problems


I have MS 2002 works suite and I use Word and  MS maps.
It seems like that if I don't use either for a week or two I have  to insert
the disks and reinstall them.
How can I eliminate this  problem?


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From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun May 10 13:42:27 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:42:27 -0400
Subject: TSGL: works problems
In-Reply-To: <bbb.4d2110bb.3738608a@aol.com>
References: <bbb.4d2110bb.3738608a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A071203.4080501@gmail.com>

Enginman,

I've had this problem also but with other programs. If you just keep 
clicking on the big X to close the "installing" window until it doesn't 
reappear you might find that Word works OK.

However, the solution I found was to use the free MS Installer Cleanup 
Utility <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301> (the download link is 
under "On This Page"). Something has happened to the registry entries 
the installer keeps for these programs. Reinstalling won't fix this 
unless the erroneous entries are cleaned out first. The MSICU does that. 
Run it, select the programs that exhibit the problem and click Remove. 
You will then need to reinstall the programs one more time (I hope).

In my case the "install" box that came up tried to install some other 
program (Money) other than the one I was trying to run so make sure this 
isn't happening to you.

HTH

H Davis

Engineman1 at aol.com wrote:
> Yes, they both are components of the Works 2002 Suite.
> When I click on one or the other to open them a box opens which says  
> "installing....." a progress indicator bar appears and stalls about halfway  
> through.
> another box opens saying "please insert disk 1 (for Word or disk 2 for  
> streets & trips)".
> If I don't insert the specified disk and click OK the program will  
> uninstall what it has already installed and will not open.
> I have been having this problem for several years, ever since I got the  
> suite.
> I use it on 2 other computers and have the same problem there.
> I once had a similar suite from another source (this one was provided by  
> Dell) and it had the same problem.
>  
> Engineman
>  
>  
> In a message dated 5/10/2009 1:53:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> embitt at westnet.com.au writes:
>
> I'm  assuming the "Word and MS maps" that you say you use are components of
> the  Works 2002 Suite -- i.e. Microsoft Word 2002 and Microsoft Streets  &
> Trips 2002 -- and that you don't use other parts of that suite (e.g.  
> Picture
> It! or a now-old Encarta Encyclopedia 2002, which might well cause  the same
> problem if you didn't use them for a time).
>
> I didn't have  any luck Googling, but perhaps I just didn't pick the right
> words to search  since I didn't have much to go on.  You have not quoted the
> message  you receive which requires you to reinstall, nor have you indicated
> which  operating system you're using.  How long have you had the problem?
> Did  it start after some kind of update (MS or a security product) which
> might  have corrupted your Works installation?
>
> Perhaps you yourself could try  searching with details of whatever comes up
> on your  screen.
>
> Alternatively, coming at your problem from a different (and  purely
> practical) direction, you could put the problem program/s (Works?  Word? Ms
> maps?) in your startup routine or folder and close them as soon as  they 
> open
> if you don't want to use them.  I suppose it depends on  whether you find
> this less annoying than the necessity of reinstalling  every time you have
> not used them for a period long enough to trigger your  problem.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Merna
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original  Message -----
> From: <Engineman1 at aol.com>
> To:  <List at tsgserver.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:20 AM
> Subject:  TSGL: works problems
>
>
> I have MS 2002 works suite and I use Word and  MS maps.
> It seems like that if I don't use either for a week or two I have  to insert
> the disks and reinstall them.
> How can I eliminate this  problem?
>
>
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From leximou at Gmail.com  Sun May 10 20:24:46 2009
From: leximou at Gmail.com (SMD)
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:24:46 -0400
Subject: TSGL: works problems
In-Reply-To: <bbb.4d2110bb.3738608a@aol.com>
References: <bbb.4d2110bb.3738608a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A07704E.7060504@Gmail.com>

Some of your settings have become corrupt.

Open the run command and go into your registry. (regedit)

Navigate to HKEY_CURRENT_USER>>Software>>Microsoft>>Office>>{enter your 
version here}>>Word.
Delete the 'data' and 'options' keys. Word will recreate them when next 
you open the program.
Word should now behave itself. If it does not, you will have to make 
sure both those keys are not in the registry when you remove and then 
reinstall.

Lex


Engineman1 at aol.com wrote:
> Yes, they both are components of the Works 2002 Suite.
> When I click on one or the other to open them a box opens which says  
> "installing....." a progress indicator bar appears and stalls about halfway  
> through.
> another box opens saying "please insert disk 1 (for Word or disk 2 for  
> streets & trips)".
> If I don't insert the specified disk and click OK the program will  
> uninstall what it has already installed and will not open.
> I have been having this problem for several years, ever since I got the  
> suite.
> I use it on 2 other computers and have the same problem there.
> I once had a similar suite from another source (this one was provided by  
> Dell) and it had the same problem.
>  
> Engineman
>  
>  
> In a message dated 5/10/2009 1:53:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> embitt at westnet.com.au writes:
>
> I'm  assuming the "Word and MS maps" that you say you use are components of
> the  Works 2002 Suite -- i.e. Microsoft Word 2002 and Microsoft Streets  &
> Trips 2002 -- and that you don't use other parts of that suite (e.g.  
> Picture
> It! or a now-old Encarta Encyclopedia 2002, which might well cause  the same
> problem if you didn't use them for a time).
>
> I didn't have  any luck Googling, but perhaps I just didn't pick the right
> words to search  since I didn't have much to go on.  You have not quoted the
> message  you receive which requires you to reinstall, nor have you indicated
> which  operating system you're using.  How long have you had the problem?
> Did  it start after some kind of update (MS or a security product) which
> might  have corrupted your Works installation?
>
> Perhaps you yourself could try  searching with details of whatever comes up
> on your  screen.
>
> Alternatively, coming at your problem from a different (and  purely
> practical) direction, you could put the problem program/s (Works?  Word? Ms
> maps?) in your startup routine or folder and close them as soon as  they 
> open
> if you don't want to use them.  I suppose it depends on  whether you find
> this less annoying than the necessity of reinstalling  every time you have
> not used them for a period long enough to trigger your  problem.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Merna
>
>
>
>   



From Engineman1 at aol.com  Wed May 13 11:29:22 2009
From: Engineman1 at aol.com (Engineman1 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:29:22 EDT
Subject: TSGL: Memory storage problems
Message-ID: <c33.529ecf36.373c4152@aol.com>

Several months ago I bought 2 8 GB SD memory cards from Amazon.
I put  one in my Garmin nuvi GPS and gave the other to my lady friend.
The other day  she asked me to rip some CDs onto it.
When I put it into my computer it could  not see it.
I tried two more computers with the same result.
 
When I put the card into my Nikon camera it said "this disk cannot be  
used." I thought oh-oh I got a bad one and I don't have the purchase receipts  
anymore.
I tried the card from my Garmin in the 4 locations with the same  result, 
even though when in the GPS I could access the 5 GB on music and  pictures I 
had on it, either on the Garmin itself or a computer plugged in with  USB.

I tried formatting one of the cards to Fat32 (the only option  available) 
with my computer by cable but still got the same negative  results.
So am I stuck with 2 memory storage cards that can only be used with  one 
device?
 
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From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Fri May 15 10:30:01 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:30:01 +0200
Subject: TSGL: Memory storage problems
References: <c33.529ecf36.373c4152@aol.com>
Message-ID: <90e701c9d569$a676b690$0201a8c0@til4200>

a few ideas:
It might be that your card readers can't read those big cards, and/or that you need a fix from MS in order to make it work - might even be a bios thing. See e.g. http://club.cdfreaks.com/f3/computer-cannot-recognize-sd-card-219788/

Try other results from Google too http://www.google.at/search?q=sd+memory+card+cannot+read

Tilman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Engineman1 at aol.com>
To: <list at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 5:29 PM
Subject: TSGL: Memory storage problems


> Several months ago I bought 2 8 GB SD memory cards from Amazon.
> I put  one in my Garmin nuvi GPS and gave the other to my lady friend.
> The other day  she asked me to rip some CDs onto it.
> When I put it into my computer it could  not see it.
> I tried two more computers with the same result.
> 
> When I put the card into my Nikon camera it said "this disk cannot be  
> used." I thought oh-oh I got a bad one and I don't have the purchase receipts  
> anymore.
> I tried the card from my Garmin in the 4 locations with the same  result, 
> even though when in the GPS I could access the 5 GB on music and  pictures I 
> had on it, either on the Garmin itself or a computer plugged in with  USB.
> 
> I tried formatting one of the cards to Fat32 (the only option  available) 
> with my computer by cable but still got the same negative  results.
> So am I stuck with 2 memory storage cards that can only be used with  one 
> device?
> 
> Engineman



From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Sat May 23 20:25:39 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 02:25:39 +0200
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC
Message-ID: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>

Hi,

I'm trying to revive an old machine, one that died out of no known reason. At my shop they told me the Mobo had died, and sold me a new one.

1. heat conductive paste?
Now I have to move the Athlon 2800 CPU + heat sink over to the new mobo. I asked the service guy in my shop how to proceed re. the heat conductive paste, and - did I need a fresh one to apply? He said NO, there's enough left on the processor.

Meanwhile I've perused the AMD online manual for installing the Athlon, there it says that as soon as you remove the heat sink, you need to renew it, because the conductive paste wouldn't do it's job anymore ... ??? Seems just a bit excessive to me, wouldn't applying a bit of brand new conductive paste suffice?

Do any of you have experience with this? Should I follow the advice from my computer shop, or rather the AMD manual?

2. Not dismantling the heat sink ?
Alternate idea - I thought maybe I could first get out the old mobo from the casing, enabling me to remove the cpu+heat sink, not touching (removing) the latter at all. After looking more closely at the cpu I find that there's no way to remove it without first dismantling the heat sink - I can't seem to move the lever enough. Or is there a way to do this that I don't see ?

Thanks for any hints you might have
Tilman


From coover at fastmail.fm  Sat May 23 22:06:43 2009
From: coover at fastmail.fm (Russell W. Coover)
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 19:06:43 -0700
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC
In-Reply-To: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>
References: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <F082EF923A5A45E295A3604E9C100CDC@AcerPC>

This may be bad advice but from my experience is correct...

I've built several machines and never used the paste. And those that
remained in my ownership ran several years without a problem. And those that
I built for others were never returned for damage to the CPU. That said, the
paste is relatively inexpensive and I see no reason not to use it if you
have access to it. It is good insurance.

I do believe you will be able to dismantle the heat sink in order to raise
the lever.

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On
Behalf Of Tilman Brandl
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:26 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC

Hi,

I'm trying to revive an old machine, one that died out of no known reason.
At my shop they told me the Mobo had died, and sold me a new one.

1. heat conductive paste?
Now I have to move the Athlon 2800 CPU + heat sink over to the new mobo. I
asked the service guy in my shop how to proceed re. the heat conductive
paste, and - did I need a fresh one to apply? He said NO, there's enough
left on the processor.

Meanwhile I've perused the AMD online manual for installing the Athlon,
there it says that as soon as you remove the heat sink, you need to renew
it, because the conductive paste wouldn't do it's job anymore ... ??? Seems
just a bit excessive to me, wouldn't applying a bit of brand new conductive
paste suffice?

Do any of you have experience with this? Should I follow the advice from my
computer shop, or rather the AMD manual?

2. Not dismantling the heat sink ?
Alternate idea - I thought maybe I could first get out the old mobo from the
casing, enabling me to remove the cpu+heat sink, not touching (removing) the
latter at all. After looking more closely at the cpu I find that there's no
way to remove it without first dismantling the heat sink - I can't seem to
move the lever enough. Or is there a way to do this that I don't see ?

Thanks for any hints you might have
Tilman

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From jonpan at onlinehome.de  Sun May 24 03:34:17 2009
From: jonpan at onlinehome.de (Jon)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 09:34:17 +0200
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC
References: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <8AC4F704FA8D407E87076601ED1274DE@johnsp2>

Guten Morgen, Tilman,

Use same heat sink, cleaning off the old paste from CPU and HS first. Apply fresh paste thinly and evenly. Install CPU first, followed by heat sink.

Also, take a look at this link re heat pads, etc:
http://www.ask.com/bar?q=Heat+sink%2BCPU&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=4&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcmech.com%2Fbyopc%2Fstep-6-install-heat-sinkfan%2F

John
in the sunny Odenwald!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tilman Brandl 
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List 
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:25 AM
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC


Hi,

I'm trying to revive an old machine, one that died out of no known reason. At my shop they told me the Mobo had died, and sold me a new one.

1. heat conductive paste?
Now I have to move the Athlon 2800 CPU + heat sink over to the new mobo. I asked the service guy in my shop how to proceed re. the heat conductive paste, and - did I need a fresh one to apply? He said NO, there's enough left on the processor.

Meanwhile I've perused the AMD online manual for installing the Athlon, there it says that as soon as you remove the heat sink, you need to renew it, because the conductive paste wouldn't do it's job anymore ... ??? Seems just a bit excessive to me, wouldn't applying a bit of brand new conductive paste suffice?

Do any of you have experience with this? Should I follow the advice from my computer shop, or rather the AMD manual?

2. Not dismantling the heat sink ?
Alternate idea - I thought maybe I could first get out the old mobo from the casing, enabling me to remove the cpu+heat sink, not touching (removing) the latter at all. After looking more closely at the cpu I find that there's no way to remove it without first dismantling the heat sink - I can't seem to move the lever enough. Or is there a way to do this that I don't see ?

Thanks for any hints you might have
Tilman

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From tbrandl2 at chello.at  Sun May 24 06:22:54 2009
From: tbrandl2 at chello.at (Tilman Brandl)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:22:54 +0200
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC
References: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>
Message-ID: <01c401c9dc59$9c36d8d0$0201a8c0@til4200>

Thanks, guys, for your ideas,

I feel more relaxed now re. that task of dismantling the whole darn thing, after reading your posts. Guess I'll go and look for that paste all the same - for safety's sake. 
I've done this only once in the past, with what probably was a 100MHz processor or similar - lol
Seems I forgot a lot of how I did it back then - funny how unreliable my memory is.

Thanks again,
Tilman in the sunny Vienna Woods

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tilman Brandl" <tbrandl2 at chello.at>
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <List at tsgserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 2:25 AM
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC


> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to revive an old machine, one that died out of no known reason. At my shop they told me the Mobo had died, and sold me a new one.
> 
> 1. heat conductive paste?
> Now I have to move the Athlon 2800 CPU + heat sink over to the new mobo. I asked the service guy in my shop how to proceed re. the heat conductive paste, and - did I need a fresh one to apply? He said NO, there's enough left on the processor.
> 
> Meanwhile I've perused the AMD online manual for installing the Athlon, there it says that as soon as you remove the heat sink, you need to renew it, because the conductive paste wouldn't do it's job anymore ... ??? Seems just a bit excessive to me, wouldn't applying a bit of brand new conductive paste suffice?
> 
> Do any of you have experience with this? Should I follow the advice from my computer shop, or rather the AMD manual?
> 
> 2. Not dismantling the heat sink ?
> Alternate idea - I thought maybe I could first get out the old mobo from the casing, enabling me to remove the cpu+heat sink, not touching (removing) the latter at all. After looking more closely at the cpu I find that there's no way to remove it without first dismantling the heat sink - I can't seem to move the lever enough. Or is there a way to do this that I don't see ?
> 
> Thanks for any hints you might have
> Tilman



From deepend at tpg.com.au  Sun May 24 10:55:08 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:55:08 +1000
Subject: TSGL: Printer inks
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090525004758.00c4c1a0@mail.tpg.com.au>

Does anyone know what is the shelf life of HP ink cartridges left in 
original packaging?

The reason I ask is that I need to replace a black ink cartridge (HP27). 
For an extra $10 I can get a special deal which includes a color cartridge 
(HP28) normally about $35.

However, I don't use much color, so I estimate that my present color 
cartridge should last another 6 months or so.

I guess another point is that if cartridges are offered at low prices, I 
wonder if they might be old stock nearing its use-by date.

Dunno if they have a use-by date stamped on them anywhere.

Don Penlington



From hdavis1 at gmail.com  Sun May 24 12:11:01 2009
From: hdavis1 at gmail.com (H Davis)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:11:01 -0400
Subject: TSGL: Printer inks
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20090525004758.00c4c1a0@mail.tpg.com.au>
References: <4.3.2.20090525004758.00c4c1a0@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <4A197195.7090902@gmail.com>

Don,

I use the 88 and 88XL (Vivera) cartridges in my HP K5400. I use almost 
no color ink so I have the same problem you do. I usually keep one 
cartridge of each color in the machine and another on the shelf. When 
the one in the machine is replaced I get a new one for the shelf on a 
casual schedule.

Those on my shelf now, which were purchased more than 6 months ago, show 
dates of July 2009 to January 2011 on the outer packaging. I also have 
some old cartridges which have a more complete date (year/month/day). 
None of these say "use by", just the date so it's not clear if this is a 
"use by" or "sell by" date. However, I checked on the HP web site 
<http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00206040&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN> 
and found this is a "warranty ends" date. The web site shows LOTS of 
cartridge types have this date on them. From this I assume the useful 
life is at least 3 years and I'd bet a good deal longer than that with 
good storage conditions.

H Davis

Don Penlington wrote:
> Does anyone know what is the shelf life of HP ink cartridges left in 
> original packaging?
>
> The reason I ask is that I need to replace a black ink cartridge 
> (HP27). For an extra $10 I can get a special deal which includes a 
> color cartridge (HP28) normally about $35.
>
> However, I don't use much color, so I estimate that my present color 
> cartridge should last another 6 months or so.
>
> I guess another point is that if cartridges are offered at low prices, 
> I wonder if they might be old stock nearing its use-by date.
>
> Dunno if they have a use-by date stamped on them anywhere.
>
> Don Penlington
>
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From dogbert at earthlink.net  Sun May 24 12:13:26 2009
From: dogbert at earthlink.net (Dogbert)
Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:13:26 -0400
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC
In-Reply-To: <F082EF923A5A45E295A3604E9C100CDC@AcerPC>
References: <016001c9dc06$2e9793d0$0201a8c0@til4200>
	<F082EF923A5A45E295A3604E9C100CDC@AcerPC>
Message-ID: <002701c9dc8a$91e21440$0201a8c0@hbcanon>

I always use NEW  paste or thermal pads (3.5 mm pads from Sidewinder Computer) on clean
surfaces. The literature is very consistent on recommending this practice. You want all
the thermal conductivity you can get in this situation.   
HBCanon
Geneva, FL



-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Russell
W. Coover
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 22:07
To: 'Tech Support Guy Mailing List'
Subject: Re: TSGL: Reviving older PC

This may be bad advice but from my experience is correct...

I've built several machines and never used the paste. And those that remained in my
ownership ran several years without a problem. And those that I built for others were
never returned for damage to the CPU. That said, the paste is relatively inexpensive and I
see no reason not to use it if you have access to it. It is good insurance.

I do believe you will be able to dismantle the heat sink in order to raise the lever.

Russ Coover

-----Original Message-----
From: list-bounces at tsgserver.com [mailto:list-bounces at tsgserver.com] On Behalf Of Tilman
Brandl
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:26 PM
To: Tech Support Guy Mailing List
Subject: TSGL: Reviving older PC

Hi,

I'm trying to revive an old machine, one that died out of no known reason.
At my shop they told me the Mobo had died, and sold me a new one.

1. heat conductive paste?
Now I have to move the Athlon 2800 CPU + heat sink over to the new mobo. I asked the
service guy in my shop how to proceed re. the heat conductive paste, and - did I need a
fresh one to apply? He said NO, there's enough left on the processor.

Meanwhile I've perused the AMD online manual for installing the Athlon, there it says that
as soon as you remove the heat sink, you need to renew it, because the conductive paste
wouldn't do it's job anymore ... ??? Seems just a bit excessive to me, wouldn't applying a
bit of brand new conductive paste suffice?

Do any of you have experience with this? Should I follow the advice from my computer shop,
or rather the AMD manual?

2. Not dismantling the heat sink ?
Alternate idea - I thought maybe I could first get out the old mobo from the casing,
enabling me to remove the cpu+heat sink, not touching (removing) the latter at all. After
looking more closely at the cpu I find that there's no way to remove it without first
dismantling the heat sink - I can't seem to move the lever enough. Or is there a way to do
this that I don't see ?

Thanks for any hints you might have
Tilman

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From orf at internode.on.net  Sun May 24 21:55:56 2009
From: orf at internode.on.net (Orf Bartrop)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:55:56 +1000
Subject: TSGL: Printer inks
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20090525004758.00c4c1a0@mail.tpg.com.au>
References: <4.3.2.20090525004758.00c4c1a0@mail.tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <4A19FAAC.6070403@internode.on.net>

Doesn't the supplier offer a guaranteed shelf life for their cartridges?

Don Penlington wrote:
> Does anyone know what is the shelf life of HP ink cartridges left in 
> original packaging?
>
> The reason I ask is that I need to replace a black ink cartridge 
> (HP27). For an extra $10 I can get a special deal which includes a 
> color cartridge (HP28) normally about $35.
>
> However, I don't use much color, so I estimate that my present color 
> cartridge should last another 6 months or so.
>
> I guess another point is that if cartridges are offered at low prices, 
> I wonder if they might be old stock nearing its use-by date.
>
> Dunno if they have a use-by date stamped on them anywhere.
>
> Don Penlington
>
>
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> http://www.tsgserver.com/list/
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From carmelloz at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 18:39:27 2009
From: carmelloz at yahoo.com (Ray)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
Message-ID: <796241.4454.qm@web50412.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

I'm really stumped by this and would appreciate some help.? All of a sudden ERUNT is not restoring my backups.? It appears to do so, but when I reboot, no changes have occurred.? I'm really mystified -- any clues about what the problem might be?? This just started up out of the blue and everything else is working fine. Reinstalled it but, unfortunately, that didn't help at all.

Thanks. 



      

From deepend at tpg.com.au  Sun May 31 21:19:47 2009
From: deepend at tpg.com.au (Don Penlington)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:19:47 +1000
Subject: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
In-Reply-To: <796241.4454.qm@web50412.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4.3.2.20090601110754.00c56108@mail.tpg.com.au>

Ray wrote:
>All of a sudden ERUNT is not restoring my backups>>


What OS?

Maybe your registry is being protected. Do you have any internet security 
protection suites running.

If you have automatic updates, it's always a possibility that one of those 
could break the system (protecting your registry from unauthorised changes 
perhaps?).

I've been using ERDNT and its forerunner ERD for over 10 years and have 
never known it to fail.

Another possibility is a virus or malware protecting itself. Run some full 
scans.

Is cold booting a bit slow? It should be about 35-50 seconds from power on 
to desktop appearing. If there's a problem in the system, Windows will 
revert to a previous known good copy of the registry, thus negating any 
changes you may have made. This is often why alterations to program 
settings don't always seem to stick, as booting reverts back to a previous 
registry. This is nothing to do with ERDNT, but could explain why it 
doesn't appear to be working.

Don Penlington




From crtrav at charter.net  Sun May 31 21:44:17 2009
From: crtrav at charter.net (Craig)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:44:17 -0700
Subject: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
In-Reply-To: <796241.4454.qm@web50412.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <796241.4454.qm@web50412.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A233271.5090500@charter.net>

Hi Ray,

I remember having the same problem. The answer for me was to place this 
shortcut in my Startup folder: "C:\Program Files\ERUNT\AUTOBACK.EXE" 
%SystemRoot%\ERDNT\AutoBackup\#Date# /noconfirmdelete /noprogresswindow

It's covered in the ERUNT's readme.txt about a quarter way down:

-------Or, to have ERUNT automatically backup the registry on each Windows
startup to a folder named "ERDNT" inside the Windows folder, including
a folder named the current date, you could place a shortcut like the
following in your Start Menu/Programs/Startup folder:

  C:\ERUNT\ERUNT.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date# /noconfirmdelete

If you want old restore folders created this way to be deleted
automatically from time to time, you can use AUTOBACK.EXE instead of
ERUNT.EXE. The AUTOBACK tool is described later in this document.
Also, ERUNT Setup offers the choice to add an AutoBackup shortcut to
the Startup folder automatically during the installation process.
------------------
hope this helps
Craig


Ray wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm really stumped by this and would appreciate some help.  All of a sudden ERUNT is not restoring my backups.  It appears to do so, but when I reboot, no changes have occurred.  I'm really mystified -- any clues about what the problem might be?  This just started up out of the blue and everything else is working fine. Reinstalled it but, unfortunately, that didn't help at all.
>
> Thanks. 
>
>
>
>       
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From carmelloz at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 21:55:05 2009
From: carmelloz at yahoo.com (Ray)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 18:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
Message-ID: <700417.58923.qm@web50407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Don, thanks for the reply.? I think you are probably right.? I did not even consider this before, but I recently installed the Comodo Firewall which is pretty "stout" in its ability to fend off any threats. This might be the culprit. Not sure how to proceed but I guess I need to find something less intrusive.? If anyone has suggestions I'd be very interested. 

Thanks again.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Don Penlington <deepend at tpg.com.au> wrote:

From: Don Penlington <deepend at tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:19 PM

Ray wrote:
> All of a sudden ERUNT is not restoring my backups>>


What OS?

Maybe your registry is being protected. Do you have any internet security protection suites running.

If you have automatic updates, it's always a possibility that one of those could break the system (protecting your registry from unauthorised changes perhaps?).

I've been using ERDNT and its forerunner ERD for over 10 years and have never known it to fail.

Another possibility is a virus or malware protecting itself. Run some full scans.

Is cold booting a bit slow? It should be about 35-50 seconds from power on to desktop appearing. If there's a problem in the system, Windows will revert to a previous known good copy of the registry, thus negating any changes you may have made. This is often why alterations to program settings don't always seem to stick, as booting reverts back to a previous registry. This is nothing to do with ERDNT, but could explain why it doesn't appear to be working.

Don Penlington



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From carmelloz at yahoo.com  Sun May 31 23:05:15 2009
From: carmelloz at yahoo.com (Ray)
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:05:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
Message-ID: <809656.71459.qm@web50402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Craig, 

Just now seeing this....

I will read through this and try to implement it.? I must admit that I'm very bad at reading instructions and applying them...Ha...why is that necessary...(WELL, now it's pretty evident isn't it??)

Thanks to everyone.

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, Craig <crtrav at charter.net> wrote:

From: Craig <crtrav at charter.net>
Subject: Re: TSGL: ERUNT troubles
To: "Tech Support Guy Mailing List" <list at tsgserver.com>
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 7:44 PM

Hi Ray,

I remember having the same problem. The answer for me was to place this shortcut in my Startup folder: "C:\Program Files\ERUNT\AUTOBACK.EXE" %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\AutoBackup\#Date# /noconfirmdelete /noprogresswindow

It's covered in the ERUNT's readme.txt about a quarter way down:

-------Or, to have ERUNT automatically backup the registry on each Windows
startup to a folder named "ERDNT" inside the Windows folder, including
a folder named the current date, you could place a shortcut like the
following in your Start Menu/Programs/Startup folder:

 C:\ERUNT\ERUNT.EXE %SystemRoot%\ERDNT\#Date# /noconfirmdelete

If you want old restore folders created this way to be deleted
automatically from time to time, you can use AUTOBACK.EXE instead of
ERUNT.EXE. The AUTOBACK tool is described later in this document.
Also, ERUNT Setup offers the choice to add an AutoBackup shortcut to
the Startup folder automatically during the installation process.
------------------
hope this helps
Craig


Ray wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I'm really stumped by this and would appreciate some help.? All of a sudden ERUNT is not restoring my backups.? It appears to do so, but when I reboot, no changes have occurred.? I'm really mystified -- any clues about what the problem might be?? This just started up out of the blue and everything else is working fine. Reinstalled it but, unfortunately, that didn't help at all.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
>? ? ???_______________________________________________
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